I have a problem - need opinions.

Page 2 of 2 [ 23 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

GreatSphinx
Toucan
Toucan

User avatar

Joined: 27 Jun 2011
Age: 51
Gender: Female
Posts: 252
Location: Wherever it is I happen to be...

05 Sep 2011, 3:17 pm

momsparky wrote:
For me, every time I go to the hair salon, I get a lecture about "products" and "styling" and what kinds of equipment to use and buy. I patiently explain that I wash and comb my hair, and that's it. I consider anything else a waste of time. I don't know that I can explain this to anyone, but I not only find "styling" to be a struggle with sensory and motor issues, but an exercise in NT stupidity (for lack of a more polite way to describe it, sorry - not meaning to be offensive.)

I understand that making an effort with "styling" would go further towards being "cute" but it isn't a priority for me. Besides, I've found that on the occasions when I try to use products and equipment, I invariably wind up sitting on my bed in tears, because I just can't get my hair to do stuff the way I want. I've found that a really good haircut that allows my hair to fall naturally into place is critical.

Have you considered a short hairstyle for your daughter that won't require "styling?" Perhaps just slicking it back into a ponytail or bun?


:) If I could control if she had long or short hair I would not be asking about this. ;) Actually, she is the one who wants long hair. She have VERY long hair and she wants it even longer. When her hair is straightened, she is the one who uses the straightener and typically does not use product when she does (although I do have some anti-friz that I have that she will use sometimes). She also gets on my case when I buy the wrong shampoo (she has oily hair and a few weeks ago when she left for band camp, the only travel sized bottles of shampoo they had were for dry hair, so I heard about that).

Just so you all know, I am not NT. I am AS, so I do know where she is coming from about some things. I also have been where she is right now and I am trying to do the "I have been through this before. Trust me, this is what works" strategy.


_________________
"Was it the Revolutionary War or the Civil War that the Japanese dropped the atomic bomb on Pearl Harbor?"
Unknown -shitmystudentswrite.tumblr.com


GreatSphinx
Toucan
Toucan

User avatar

Joined: 27 Jun 2011
Age: 51
Gender: Female
Posts: 252
Location: Wherever it is I happen to be...

05 Sep 2011, 3:23 pm

@srriv345: What she has figured out about her hair so far is that she needs to use a wide toothed brush and when she does wash her hair at night, she needs to put in two braids so that it is not all kinky in the morning. I never did the comb thing with her. I will get her one.

I have weird hair. Parts of it are straight and parts of it have some curl. Most of it has a single wave. lol. I have found straightening it is the best for me. Other than the curl, my daughter has my hair. Very thick and very hard to manage. I used to have perms a lot. I had to have a special wrap because not having this wrap, the curl would fall out within 3 weeks. I learned how to style curly hair. I have never shown her how though. I also don't have the money to buy her the product she would need (yet - I have court tomorrow, and hopefully that will be taken care of then - at least support ordered).


_________________
"Was it the Revolutionary War or the Civil War that the Japanese dropped the atomic bomb on Pearl Harbor?"
Unknown -shitmystudentswrite.tumblr.com


momsparky
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Jul 2010
Gender: Female
Posts: 3,772

05 Sep 2011, 4:35 pm

Just wanted to reiterate that I also understand that your concern is for your daughter, and not because of any standards. I also struggled when I saw my son going through what I went through in grade school - it's exceptionally painful, because as a parent all I wanted to be able to do was make a better life for my kid than mine had been.

I think, aside from safety issues, the best you can do is make sure your daughter understands it is not her fault, and that you love her just as she is. I had no safe haven at home - my son does. You have a limited amount of control over the bullies, but you can explain that you, too went through this - you came up with strategies - you worked it out in the end.

Her strategies may not be the same as yours, and that's OK.



AardvarkGoodSwimmer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Age: 61
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,665
Location: Houston, Texas

06 Sep 2011, 12:14 am

GreatSphinx wrote:
. . . I am seeking a protection order for her against the young man who hit her. If it had been a simple punch to the arm, I would not (she was with a group of guys who did things like that with her all the time last year - she said this was different). His treatment of her has been escalating. Honestly, this was not because of appearance or her behavior. This i because of a stupid reason. She is from a rival school, and he does not like her because of it. Then she said something to those girls, and he shouted some profanity at her related to what she had said to the girls after school that day.

The situation is very complex. The girls that targeted her may have done so because she looked different. . .

Wow. This sounds serious. The boy who hit her needs to understand that with the protective order and/or other official action taken that it is medium serious right now, and that if this behavior continues in any way, it will become very serious.

Ideally, the school would have someone who would take an interest in this young man and coach him, so that he turns over a new leaf immediately, at no further cost to your daughter. I am sorry that this has happened to your daughter.

And this band director sounds like a major contributing factor. When a so-called adult (cough, cough) sets the example of publicly bullying a student, that's a bad thing. The adult damn sure should know better and know how to graciously recover. Obviously, a lot of people don't.

Please trust your gut feelings regarding if and when it's time to try a new school.



postcards57
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 7 Aug 2011
Gender: Female
Posts: 334
Location: Canada

06 Sep 2011, 4:21 pm

Quote:
It is just that after this weekend, I am afraid for her. I am seeking a protection order for her against the young man who hit her. If it had been a simple punch to the arm, I would not (she was with a group of guys who did things like that with her all the time last year - she said this was different). His treatment of her has been escalating. Honestly, this was not because of appearance or her behavior. This i because of a stupid reason. She is from a rival school, and he does not like her because of it. Then she said something to those girls, and he shouted some profanity at her related to what she had said to the girls after school that day.


I think we all might be getting distracted by the discussion of the hair style instead of looking at this. The bullying situation seems really serious, and I hope that you are successful and getting help with it as well as help with getting her through this. I would say she needs more acceptance and care from her family right now and less effort at integration (which will be, at best, only partially successful). In any case, who wants to fit into a group of selfish and mean kids? Tell her she's nicer than they are and she's fine the way she is.

I'm learning so much about unconditional love from my dd with Asperger's. For a while her behaviour and the advice I was getting about being firm with her was making me feel less competent as a parent, but I feel now like I'm going to look after her no matter what.

J.



azurecrayon
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Mar 2010
Age: 52
Gender: Female
Posts: 742

07 Sep 2011, 8:52 am

i think its perfectly understandable to want to protect your child and make them less of a target. how you go about that task matters a great deal.

the part that worries me is not the actual forcing her to do things she doesnt want to do, but rather the overall message of what that would teach her. that she should change herself to fit in, that what others think of her is more important than what she thinks. if she gets this message from you now, what happens in the future if other kids try to get her to "fit in", by smoking, drinking, having sex, stealing, etc.

we do such a great disservice to young girls when we try to make them conform to social standards that are unnecessary and unhealthy. women do not need to style their hair, shave their legs, or wear fashionable clothing. women need to stand up for themselves and have self confidence. as women ourselves, *that* is what we need to teach our children, not the superficial crap. self confidence will be hugely more protective than a cool 'do and a stylish outfit.


_________________
Neurotypically confused.
partner to: D - 40 yrs med dx classic autism
mother to 3 sons:
K - 6 yrs med/school dx classic autism
C - 8 yrs NT
N - 15 yrs school dx AS


OddFiction
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 9 Aug 2010
Age: 48
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,090
Location: Ontario, Canada

08 Sep 2011, 3:54 pm

Sorry - I skipped a bit this time (I don't usually).
Do you mention somewhere how old your kid is? If so I missed it.

As for shaving legs and arms - Would she be more comfortable in long pants? Avoid the shaving issue altogether. Though I'm a guy so it has nothign to do with hairy legs and shaving them, I never ever wear shorts. Just an idea.

As for should you try and moderate her style? No. Discuss it with her. Have a weekly "Mom and Daughter" session every week where you go thru her clothes together and toss any that have holes (that's a bigger issue than fuzzy arms) to get a routine idea that holey clothes are bad clothes.

And maybe take her to a spa and pedicure place where they wax her or something. Let her get a feel for the "clean all over" feeling and maybe some of it will stick.

As for bullies. Well. There's only so much you can do about it. Talk to her about when and where these events occur. Try and brainstorm solutions that can be applied in the field: IE if there are bullies in the hallway, get your locker moved closer to a high-teacher-traffic area. Just one idea.