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03 Oct 2011, 4:55 am

Mama_to_Grace wrote:
Yeah, I know there are a lot of people who medicate upon diagnosis. On my daughter's diagnostic report under recommendations medicating her was suggested.

I am researching every option. I know there's just no way I can go along with an anti psychotic at age 8, but I know there are some kids who are far more violent and I do not begrudge those parents. It is a living hell when you cannot stop your child from beating down the wall or their door or their window.

SSRIs have not helped my daughter so I have to look outside of that box. I am looking at Clonidine or Tenex or Intuniv (I think they are all similar in action). These are all alpha agonists:

from Wikipedia:
"Another psychiatric use of guanfacine is for treatment of anxiety, such as generalized anxiety disorder and post-traumatic stress disorder symptoms. Alpha-2A agonists such as guanfacine reduce sympathetic arousal, weaken the emotional responses of the amygdala, and strengthen prefrontal cortical regulation of emotion, action and thought. All of these actions likely contribute to the relief of the hyperarousal, re-experiencing, and impulsivity associated with PTSD.[9] Due to its prolonged half-life, it also has been seen to improve sleep interrupted by nightmares in PTSD patients.[10] According to recent studies (Srour et al., 2008) there is controversy as to guanfacine’s usefulness in treating tics. There has been success when tic symptoms are co-morbid with ADHD, and as such, guanfacine and other alpha-2-adrenergic agonists (clonidine) are commonly the first choice for treatment....
In animal models, guanfacine is seen to affect a number of cognitive factors, including working memory improvement, distractibility reduction, response inhibition improvement, and attention control.[14] Performance increases in spatial working memory have also been observed in humans."


My kids are on Clonidine at night and it calms them down and helps them sleep. I just give it to them an hour before bedtime.

Intuniv is like time-released Clonidine--no generic,, though, if you are not fully insured.

They also work great if you administer a tiny piece during an anxiety attack.

I tried using the Clonidine during the day with my older son, but it would wear off after about 6 hours, and he would be grumpy. It also does cause sleepiness. It also made my older son sad. However, it works for some people.

Intunive also causes sleepiness, but it works for some with severe issues--just watch the dose. My younger son tried it very briefly and it seemed to cause weepiness in him, too.

My older son had initial issues with Prozac, the SSRI that he is on. It made him hyperactive initially. The doctor added Abilify, which fixed the hyperactivity, but made him too sleepy, and we removed the Abilify after a few weeks. Hyperactivity on Prozac occurs in some kids when first starting the med, when the meds are raised, or when the med is too high. Some doctors wil start the child on a low dose of Prozac and increase it gradually.

My younger son with the AS/OCD combination didn't like the taste of the Prozac, but after he started taking it he did great with no hyperactivity or any negative side effects.

So much depends on the child's own body chemistry and symptoms, I think. There is always some trial and error initially.


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05 Oct 2011, 11:56 am

I just want to share something I heard last night at a meeting. Please take this for what it is, one person's experience. It just struck me when I heard it and I thought it might be germaine to this conversation.

A young woman (mid-20s) was speaking. She has been sober for 2 yrs but before that had been a raging alcoholic, in and out of jail for multiple alcohol and drug related offenses. Part of her story is that she had been (mis-)diagnosed with ADHD when she was 5 and was on Ritalin for years (turns out what she actually ahd was a closed brain injury). She said she never understood why she had to take the medication and she herself never felt that it was helping her but everyone around her would exclaim how she could focus better, etc after taking her pill. The thing that struck me was the message she said she got from this. The message she got loud and clear from a very young age was that there was something wrong with her and that whatever was in that bottle of pills was supposed to "fix" her. She learned that putting some substance into her body was supposed to make everything OK. She stated that she is not blaming her alcoholism on the fact that she was medicated as a child but that it was one of many factors that caused her to grow up thinking there was something inherently wrong with her and suffering for years because of that belief.

There are often side effects from medication and maybe some of them, like the one described by this young woman, are not physical and have never been studied or measured in any real way. Maybe the long-term psychological side effects of medicating our children should be carefully considered and studied more thoroughly.



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05 Oct 2011, 2:03 pm

I agree with DW_a_mom, I feel at times I am medicating my son to send him into a school environment that absolutely makes his day a living hell.

To day my son text me from school, "Ring d skol nd tel dem leave me out I'm going to burst" I had a second meeting with the school and resource teachers and Department of Education so forth. My son suffers continually with panic attacks he is now taking prozac has helped a littled. We had agreed if things got really bad he could ask the teacher to go to the office and see the principal or vice principal they failed to pass this on to the relevant teachers and he has been refused three days in a row.

Sorry I went of my point but it really makes me angry that as parents we make a huge decision because we want or children to achieve and make it in society and hoping medication is short term to help learn coping strategies and then the school can behave this way.

My son does manage better on school holidays but still takes medication. Its a very difficult decision but with family history on both sides I do feel we are left with little choice. I have seen other family members there lives shattered by not been helped or supported going through the school years.


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