GABA L-Theanine Topical "Calming" Cream?
Thank you Blueroses, your post was very helpful.
My daughter is one of those people with ASD who has adverse reactions to every med we have tried. Serious reactions. I have found that the typical pharmaceutical treatments for her issues just aren't going to work.
Which leads me to state that I do not want to tranquilize my daughter. I do not want to make things "easier" for me at her detriment. She has anxiety that is debilitating. It is not because of not being "understood". It is, however, in my opinion a result of the different way in which she processes all incoming data through her brain. Simple things, as another poster stated, are simply too much for her to bear. She has problems interpreting typical body language/verbal cues which tends to make her believe everyone hates her. She pushed a girl down yesterday because she thought the girl would "catch herself" because she believed that if she knew it was going to happen, then so would the girl. Then she has to deal with the aftermath of that action and the anxiety it produces (and the confusion over something that she thought was fun and a game turns into something she did wrong). Her brain takes longer to process verbal information and work up a response and so she isn't able to give her side of the situation--there are so many difficult processes going on for her at any moment that it is no wonder she has anxiety. I do not think the anxiety is the fundamental issue-but I do not think the fundamental issue (the way her brain processes information)-is able to be changed. So I have to help her in any way I can.
We cannot put our children in a protective box. We cannot always protect them. We do our best as parents to walk the fine line between overprotectiveness and failure to protect. It is not easy. My daughter doesn't want to be so afraid. But she is walking around in a world not made for her. If there is something I can do that is not harmful to actually help her feel better, then I want to do that.
But I agree that this particular cream may not be the answer. Right now we use Vistaril (an antihistamine) as needed for times of extreme panic. I was just interested in this product as someone recommended it to me.
Thanks.
My daughter is one of those people with ASD who has adverse reactions to every med we have tried. Serious reactions. I have found that the typical pharmaceutical treatments for her issues just aren't going to work.
Which leads me to state that I do not want to tranquilize my daughter. I do not want to make things "easier" for me at her detriment. She has anxiety that is debilitating. It is not because of not being "understood". It is, however, in my opinion a result of the different way in which she processes all incoming data through her brain. Simple things, as another poster stated, are simply too much for her to bear. She has problems interpreting typical body language/verbal cues which tends to make her believe everyone hates her. She pushed a girl down yesterday because she thought the girl would "catch herself" because she believed that if she knew it was going to happen, then so would the girl. Then she has to deal with the aftermath of that action and the anxiety it produces (and the confusion over something that she thought was fun and a game turns into something she did wrong). Her brain takes longer to process verbal information and work up a response and so she isn't able to give her side of the situation--there are so many difficult processes going on for her at any moment that it is no wonder she has anxiety. I do not think the anxiety is the fundamental issue-but I do not think the fundamental issue (the way her brain processes information)-is able to be changed. So I have to help her in any way I can.
We cannot put our children in a protective box. We cannot always protect them. We do our best as parents to walk the fine line between overprotectiveness and failure to protect. It is not easy. My daughter doesn't want to be so afraid. But she is walking around in a world not made for her. If there is something I can do that is not harmful to actually help her feel better, then I want to do that.
But I agree that this particular cream may not be the answer. Right now we use Vistaril (an antihistamine) as needed for times of extreme panic. I was just interested in this product as someone recommended it to me.
Thanks.
Not to pry, but which meds have you tried and what happened? I just ask this because my kids are pretty sensitive to meds, too. Each tried more than one before settling on the Prozac and Clonidine, which are not perfect, but are better tolerated than the other meds tried. I've also had to change my older son's doses several times due to weight gain or increase/decrease in symptoms. The Prozac actually caused hyperactivity for my older son when he first got on it; luckily, the hyperactivity went away after a couple of weeks.
I think that my kids are lucky in that they are otherwise in good health, so that isn't an issue. Also, a specific anxiety disorder could be identified for each of them--selective mutism for my older and OCD for my younger--so they were good candidates for treatment of comorbidities. Prozac (fluoxetine) is basically a first-line treatment of these two comorbidities, which are fairly common in ASD kids.
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With Prozac she became aggressive and agitated. Her skin was crawling and itchy. This was on a very low dose. Then we tried Zoloft and it worked for a while. Then it stopped working and they upped the dose slighly and she began having major OCD issues: she was pulling out her hair and eyelashes and eating them as well as tapping her dresser drawers and counting a lot. These behaviors stopped about 9 months after we stopped the Zoloft.
With Ritalin she became extremely agitated and violent.
The only two times my daughter has ever severely, violently attacked people were when she was on these meds.
She can't take clonidine because she has very low blood pressure.
With Ritalin she became extremely agitated and violent.
The only two times my daughter has ever severely, violently attacked people were when she was on these meds.
She can't take clonidine because she has very low blood pressure.
It sounds like you have not tried the atypical antipsychotics that are FDA approved for irritability associated with ASD: Risperidone and Abilify (more expensive but some people report fewer side effects than with the Risperidone). People with children with severe autism that cannot be helped with SSRIs often find relief with these. Sometimes one of these will be combined with a low dose of an SSRI for added anxiety relief.
SSRIs (Prozac and Zoloft) do not work with some people, especially if they have a tendency towards bipolar disorder; the person can become manic. Prozac also has a tendency to cause hyperactivity when initially started in some people (like my older son and another boy that I know of).
A pediatric neurologist or child psychiatrist would be the one to handle a complicated med issue like this. I do have additional med information on my website if you want to check it out (links to websites, doctors videos, etc.)
Ritalin (a stimulant) is often a poor choice for low functioners and kids with a lot of anxiety because it has the side effect of increasing anxiety.
I do know of other kids and adults with severe ASD who have been helped greatly with meds; it is common to try many different meds and combinations before finding something that provides relief for the child.
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I don't know if this idea would help, especially since I was in my 30's at the time, but years ago when I was having severe anxiety and none of the antidepressants helped with that, the doctor put me on Xanax. I took the 1mg ones twice a day. As time went on I cut my dose in half, but would take half as needed. I took it for two years, and yes it's physically addicting and there were days in the end that I didn't need it for the anxiety but had to take a half to prevent withdrawals. The first few days, I felt drugged but after that, I didn't feel anything anymore from it that way. No sleepiness, nothing.
It really helped keep my anxiety level down and it was a small dose. I don't know how you feel about benzo's and I can't recall how old your child is, but I honestly have no problem with them or the idea of giving them when they are needed. Especially in small doses that don't zone you out. I've tried Ativan, Clonopin and Valium before but they didn't work and some had a paradoxical reaction in me. There is also Tranxene and Serax for anxiety and they are benzos and much milder. I'd check them out and do some research before you dismiss them on the grounds of them just being benzos.
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