Why do fathers abandon their children with disabilities?

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AutisticBelle
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11 Oct 2012, 4:50 pm

My dad is rather the same. I can seem normal most of the time, and carry on intelligent conversation, but my more severely Autistic brothers he has nothing to do with. Everything regarding them is foisted on my mother. But even if they don't communicate well, or sometimes at all, I am always amazed at how smart they are. One of them suddenly starting spouting off the multiplication tables before he was even taught them! They are truly special, and not in the "special" way my father regards them. In my experience, men really don't handle offsping with disabilities well.
But I might be wrong. There likely are men out there who treat their children wonderfully.



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12 Oct 2012, 9:04 pm

I agree about men not being able to handle special needs offspring very well. My dad always treated my younger sister with more respect than he treated me. I felt that I was just a piece of dirt in his eyes.


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12 Oct 2012, 11:29 pm

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13 Oct 2012, 1:37 am

Why? Weakness is why.



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16 Oct 2012, 10:04 am

ttqs84 wrote:
I heard cases where men who have children with disabilities are most likely to walk out of their lives and want nothing to do with them. It's the same thing with my dad. He left my mom and I not only 'cos he cheated, but he couldn't bare the fact that he's got a daughter with Asperger's. Now he's got three healthy sons with the woman whom he cheated on mom with, and have been together since (as far as I know). This has brought me a lasting impression for my displeasure and mistrust towards NT men. Just four years ago, he typed an email to me saying that I'm not his flesh and blood. That email left me confused and devastated, not to mention livid. Do men really believe that acting this way to their children (who didn't ask to be brought up with a disability) is fair? Has anyone had such an awful experience where your dad, husband/boyfriend wants nothing to do with you because you're not what he expected you to be/your child has a disability? How did this affected you? Have you had some kind of closure with them?


My son's father 'left us' and has notning to do with my son at all. It's the best thing that ever happened to us. I know my son will feel pain for the rest of his life about it but I also know how much worse his life would have been if his father had stuck around because he is a horrible person. Keep that in mind. Some children are lucky that their parent/s are not in their lives. I know it sounds odd and cold to say that, but if your father is the type of person that would reject their own blood and not take care of their responsibility, what kind of father do you think he would have been had he stuck around? Would he have done even more damage than he has not being around? It took me a long time to let go of the anger and realize this and I hope my son will realize this when he is an adult as well.



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31 Oct 2012, 4:48 am

ttqs84 wrote:
Just four years ago, he typed an email to me saying that I'm not his flesh and blood.


He probably meant he thinks your mother was having an affair with another guy; and he thinks that guy is your biological father.

When fathers abandon their children, it's usually because they don't want any further contact with the mother. If the mother wasn't there, the father would probably take care of the children.

The children have to be careful not to see themselves as being the cause of the breakup. They're nearly always incidental. "Caught in the crossfire" so to speak.

Fathers abandon children more often than mothers do, because courts usually award custody to mothers, and because society expects mothers to raise children, and doesn't expect fathers to. When the father abandons the children, he's just doing what society expects him to do.



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31 Oct 2012, 6:51 am

Sorry, but i think thats just lousy excuses to make myself not rsponsible for a lousy behaviour. Not society is divorcing people but grown up humans are.

And society can only decide who is generally responsible for the work necessary to earn the money a child need and who is responsible for the work necessary not bound to money a child needs.

But raising and educatint a child cant be forced by society or is someone standing in your living room, holding a weapon to your head and telling you: "Now feed your child und wash his cloth! And then you do a walk with him!" And you there: "Dont get closer! If you try to make contact to your child i´ll shoot! This is my last warning!" ?

There are lot of things society expects me to do, but the desicion is up to me and i am responsible at last for my desicion. If i decide to act as "society" expects me too its because of MY desicion that i WANT to act like this. And if I dont act as society wants me to do it is because of MY desicion that I DONT WANT to act in this way.

Yop, here follows a lousy example, but 99% of society wants me to shave my body hair. But as long as noones sneaks with a firearm into my bathroom and forces me by violece to do so, there is no excuse for "Mimimimimimi... bad society forced me to act like in this was. I swear i didnt want to. But there was this huge guy with the weapon / this evil Witchdoctor with the mind controlling vodoo doll...."

Sorry, but thats just a lousy weak try to excuse a wrong behaviour, meaning the person itself knows inside that her/his behaviour is wrong. Because if you would not knew, that you are acting wrong you also would not neet to invent some excuse to yourselfe to legetimate your own behaviour to yourself.

Noone denies that there are cases when parents REALLY ARE FORCED to stop contact with their kids because of a wrong desicion of a judge, based on lies upon the old partner and so on, who REALLY forces to stop the contact by law. Meaning if i dont respect that law, then there will be really some guys with weapons forcing me to respect the judge desicion. But as long as there is no official judge desicion, voodoo doctor or armed guy forcing you to stop someone to make contact whith his kids, just an invisible, unharming, imaginary thing as "the society, mastermind of evil" the only person responsible for the desicion to make contact or not making contact is the person itself.



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11 Nov 2012, 12:52 pm

neverinextremity wrote:
ttqs84 wrote:
Just four years ago, he typed an email to me saying that I'm not his flesh and blood.


He probably meant he thinks your mother was having an affair with another guy; and he thinks that guy is your biological father.


my dad was the one who was screwing other women behind my mom's back while my mom got a job with the UN. his priority was himself and never to help take care of me when i was little, knowing i'm an Aspie. he's just mad my mom has a better job than his, she gave him the opportunity to come along with her but he refused due to his selfish tendencies. he's also mad that he had me, a "handicapped" daughter, who he never loved and cared for. but instead, he'd rather be with the other woman and have his three neurotypical boys with her. when i used to visit him after he left my mom, he'd criticized and scold me for the little things that i did which he thought was "abnormal". there were numerous times in my life that whenever i visited my home country as a minor, he'd threatened not to let me leave the country (we have a law that when the minor child of the family leaves his/her country, he/she needs permission from the parents to do so).
therefore, because of what he did i don't think i can ever forgive him. so i'm dead to him and he wouldn't give a s**t.


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11 Nov 2012, 1:01 pm

Schneekugel wrote:
Sorry, but i think thats just lousy excuses to make myself not rsponsible for a lousy behaviour. Not society is divorcing people but grown up humans are.

And society can only decide who is generally responsible for the work necessary to earn the money a child need and who is responsible for the work necessary not bound to money a child needs.

But raising and educatint a child cant be forced by society or is someone standing in your living room, holding a weapon to your head and telling you: "Now feed your child und wash his cloth! And then you do a walk with him!" And you there: "Dont get closer! If you try to make contact to your child i´ll shoot! This is my last warning!" ?

There are lot of things society expects me to do, but the desicion is up to me and i am responsible at last for my desicion. If i decide to act as "society" expects me too its because of MY desicion that i WANT to act like this. And if I dont act as society wants me to do it is because of MY desicion that I DONT WANT to act in this way.

Yop, here follows a lousy example, but 99% of society wants me to shave my body hair. But as long as noones sneaks with a firearm into my bathroom and forces me by violece to do so, there is no excuse for "Mimimimimimi... bad society forced me to act like in this was. I swear i didnt want to. But there was this huge guy with the weapon / this evil Witchdoctor with the mind controlling vodoo doll...."

Sorry, but thats just a lousy weak try to excuse a wrong behaviour, meaning the person itself knows inside that her/his behaviour is wrong. Because if you would not knew, that you are acting wrong you also would not neet to invent some excuse to yourselfe to legetimate your own behaviour to yourself.

Noone denies that there are cases when parents REALLY ARE FORCED to stop contact with their kids because of a wrong desicion of a judge, based on lies upon the old partner and so on, who REALLY forces to stop the contact by law. Meaning if i dont respect that law, then there will be really some guys with weapons forcing me to respect the judge desicion. But as long as there is no official judge desicion, voodoo doctor or armed guy forcing you to stop someone to make contact whith his kids, just an invisible, unharming, imaginary thing as "the society, mastermind of evil" the only person responsible for the desicion to make contact or not making contact is the person itself.


i don't think anyone will understand what you're saying in this post.


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11 Nov 2012, 11:11 pm

I do not know if it is a male or female thing. However, I am married and my husband gets along well with our AS son and spends time with him. This all changes though when my son is having a moment where he might need discipline or words to help him through. My husband disappears and makes me take care of the "problem"! It is annoying as Hell! I wish my husband would help but he does not! :(



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12 Nov 2012, 12:16 am

Fathers abandon their children all the time, regardless of their abilities. It's a very generalised, sweeping statement but a lot of men (and women) do not have any innate parental instincts and it doesn't bother them not to be involved in their children's lives. I, on the other hand, couldn't face a life that did not involve my children, never in a million years.


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12 Nov 2012, 11:19 am

rubylady wrote:
I do not know if it is a male or female thing. However, I am married and my husband gets along well with our AS son and spends time with him. This all changes though when my son is having a moment where he might need discipline or words to help him through. My husband disappears and makes me take care of the "problem"! It is annoying as Hell! I wish my husband would help but he does not! :(


Do you ever tell him that as your child's father it's also his duty to help raise his child? It seems like you let your husband get away with him being a 'ungrateful man'. Why do passively let that happen? If I were you, I'd leave him and will not let him have custody of his child. No excuses!


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