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21 Jan 2015, 3:43 pm

Here's a wiki linkie (unless the forum software eats my link again):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circadian_rhythm_sleep_disorder

If he has something like this it might help to get treatment.



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21 Jan 2015, 4:11 pm

trollcatman wrote:
Here's a wiki linkie (unless the forum software eats my link again):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circadian_rhythm_sleep_disorder

If he has something like this it might help to get treatment.


Thanks a lot. At least one of these sounds very like my son.



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21 Jan 2015, 4:35 pm

Perhaps if you let your son read that wiki article, he will see it in himself. A diagnosis may even be a relief for him since it means he is not a lazy person or slacker, but that it is a medical condition that is not his fault. And maybe they can manage it with melatonin or something else. These sleep disorders are often not diagnosed since even many physicians don't know about them.



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21 Jan 2015, 4:54 pm

trollcatman wrote:
Perhaps if you let your son read that wiki article, he will see it in himself. A diagnosis may even be a relief for him since it means he is not a lazy person or slacker, but that it is a medical condition that is not his fault. And maybe they can manage it with melatonin or something else. These sleep disorders are often not diagnosed since even many physicians don't know about them.


Yes I am going to do that. Thanks :D



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21 Jan 2015, 5:11 pm

I've dealt with feeling dragged out and wanting to sleep throughout the day. My doctor ran tests of freeT3, freeT4, freeTSH, for thyroid function and a metabolic panel for cortisol levels gave a place to start. My cortisol levels were low in the am when they should be high, and high in the evening when they should be low. This is great if you're a musician playing clubs all night, but someone who needs a different schedule needs to find a way to have hormones at the right level at the right time.

I've been in one home where due to EMF, I had to get out of the house before I could fall asleep. Certain frequencies will keep the cells in a stressed state and interfere with biological rhythms and some people seem to be more affected by them than others. If it were me, I'd consider checking into environmental factors: viewtopic.php?t=269661&start=15#p6330790

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22 Jan 2015, 12:26 am

trollcatman wrote:
Here's a wiki linkie (unless the forum software eats my link again):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circadian_rhythm_sleep_disorder

If he has something like this it might help to get treatment.


Thanks, DSPS sounds like me, 12 years to potentially find that answer, I never knew this existed, narcolepsy would have been the closest thing fitted, but it still does not fit the description.
These sleep phase disorders hit the nail right on the head. :D



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22 Jan 2015, 3:22 am

Thanks again everyone. You've been very helpful and given me some ideas I hadn't thought of. :)



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22 Jan 2015, 3:33 am

Sounds like depression. Sleeping is an escape. Video games are an escape. Sleeping is again an escape. Dreams are better than real life for someone who is depressed.

Does he live in the same house as you? If so, he may be staying up late in order to have free time when you are sleep. This doesn't mean he doesn't care about you, just that maybe he doesn't want to be nagged during the day so prefers to sleep during that time.



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22 Jan 2015, 5:44 am

heavenlyabyss wrote:
Sounds like depression. Sleeping is an escape. Video games are an escape. Sleeping is again an escape. Dreams are better than real life for someone who is depressed.

Does he live in the same house as you? If so, he may be staying up late in order to have free time when you are sleep. This doesn't mean he doesn't care about you, just that maybe he doesn't want to be nagged during the day so prefers to sleep during that time.


He does live in the same house and regardless of his sleep pattern. Whether he is up in the day or up in the night, he spends nearly all his time in his room. Not because he wants to avoid everyone but because that is where his electronic are.



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22 Jan 2015, 11:49 am

Point taken.

I made the response because I can relate. I'm also nocturnal. Sometimes I stay up in the evening and sleep during the day so I can drink (not suggesting your son drinks but just throwing it out there) or just go down and watch tv alone or turn the music up without anyone knowing what I'm listening to. Maybe it's an aspie thing. Even if my parents aren't bothering I just like to be alone.

Anyway, I'm older than your son and still have the same problems, still live with my parents. Just throwing out a possibility.



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22 Jan 2015, 1:01 pm

I don't know where you live, but in the US, melatonin is an over-the-counter supplement found next to the vitamins.