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03 Aug 2007, 11:53 pm

Well as long as he knows that other people keep their hands to themselves too because most aspies have a very highly developed sense of justice and fair play and are quick to pick up on exceptions to the rules.


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04 Aug 2007, 11:40 am

Pop's preschool teacher called him The Gestapo (not in front of him, as a joke) because he was all about enforcing rules on everyone else but himself. He has had a hard time distinguishing unintentional "hurting" from intentional hurting too.



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05 Aug 2007, 10:56 am

My son was an elmo fan! Then he graduated to sponge bob (love this smiling guy) and simpsons. (not as polite). But, he laughs and picks up quite a bit of inferencing that goes on in simpsons.

I agree, yes, too much sheltering is not good.

A sense of humour is so important in life! When someone never gets it, they are, honestly, quite dull to others.

Lets face it, when a ten-year old, mainstreamed in reg classes, insists upon singing the barney song or talking about thoms the tank, don't expect he will be accepted well. And if he is with it enough to know that he' not accepted, this could lead to some major depression.

I know of a lower autistic fellow (labeled Aspergers) who is smart enough to take reg classes but is defintely off, socially. He repeats the barney song and others egg him on. Frankly, I think it's the only way they know how to connect with him and he to them. But it seems as if they are having fun at his expense and he doesn't benefit from it at all. He just contines singing the barney song because he thinks that's what he's suppose to do!

It's important to teach them/and peers, how to treat a fellow student with Aspergers. They are intelligent and should not be belittled. But, it's equally important to expose your child as much as possible and encourage inferential and critical thinking so they have more topics to discuss with peers.

take it for what it's worth.



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05 Aug 2007, 12:05 pm

Yeah, he's into video games and last year would "play Super Mario Bros" with his peers (role playing on the playground, not with the videogames). In 1st grade, that is "in" with some of the kids. Later in the year, he learned some of his classmates had the same Nintendo games and he discusses strategies with them. I've had several chats about this as a good way to find friends.
He also knows the difference between things he can do at home but not at school; cross-dressing, fart jokes. So, in the case of something really "out there" like repetitive singing or scripting, we have it set in place to say, "that's not a school activity".



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05 Aug 2007, 5:26 pm

I guess my son's fart machine won't fly in 3rd grade.

As for cross dressing? He started a trend in preschool. He was fixated on Dorothy's red, sparkling shoes and dresses that flaired out at the bottom when he spun. Pretty soon, other kids caught on. Boys were sporting heels and pearls. They actually took the dress-ups out of the rooms. We don't have too much of that anymore. He does like my jewelry and it is now organized in his box (noticed the other day).



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05 Aug 2007, 11:08 pm

Unfortunately, my son was in Northern CA (conservative) during his preschool years and they actually took away the costume box because my son donned women's clothes and the NT kids made fun of him. Yep, they didn't teach the NT kids not to tease or bully, they took away the fantasy clothes. Weirdly enough, my son quickly picked up that he needs to "be a boy" at school. He even inists on using "macho" boy lunchbox and backpack-with characters he doesn't like.
Of all the peer-modelling opportunities, he picked up on gender roles.



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16 Aug 2007, 10:09 pm

KimJ wrote:
Mr.Mark, I'd never walk away from WP for one argument. I just got fed up with that particular thread and the ensuing digression. This is still one of the best places to complain and quibble as we eventually try to understand each other.

Sigholdaccountlost, if I were telling my son what you thought I was telling him, I'd be a liar and schnook. I don't give him that June Cleaver BS. I'm rather candid here with the topics we discuss and have discussed his communication issues at length.
Thanks for being more reconciling. I hate to get emotional about internet tiffs.


I do have a bit of criticism though. I don't believe you do it intentionally for a second but you can mislead someone when trying not to.

So...you may be misleading him through no fault of your own.


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21 Aug 2007, 7:27 am

Well, if my kid went to a kindy where they were so anally retentive that they took away the dressing up clothes because some of the boys dressed in the female clothes, I would have made a big fuss. That's totally ridiculous and only serves to perpetuate outdated sexual stereotypes.

It was bad enough when I was told at age 5 that I should just play with the dollies and not the blocks and trucks. The boys were playing with the more interesting toys so I wasn't going to settle for less. Plus, the dollies didn't have vaginas or penises like real babies and I had seen real baby boys at home.

Boys especially seem to find farts amusing and some never grow out of it but I can see that the teachers could object to fart jokes since they are distracting. My younger daughter said a boy in her 8th grade class got sent to the office for farting in class because it caused complete pandemonium!


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