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29 Sep 2007, 7:51 am

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I don't really have behavioral issues. What I have the most problems with are:

organization -- he cannot seem to put anything back on his own without dozens of prompts or else intervention.

Unwillingness to do work he deems boring, distasteful, or just doesn't want to do-- most chores fall into this category, as does homework and school in general.

Lack of focus.

Occasional meltdowns, usually over homework.

He's not really defiant, just inattentive and unfocused. He'll start something, have a great idea, work on it gung ho for a while, then something else will catch his attention and he'll do that and forget about the first topic.


Do you give him the chance to whatever he pleases for say an hour after you tell him he needs to do something but before he does it. That's what I need. Especially when it comes to exceptionally boring, pointless stuff like homework. It doesn't work, and onlys erves to make the work even less appealing to be reminded of it, or told I have to do it, during that hour.Though it didn't take me too long to realize that in college there truly was no point in doing homework as it was never collected, and one could easily get an A without putting forth effort.

If it makes you feel any better he may be more organized than he appears. I can't organize my things in the typical NT fashion and if I try I can't find a single thing I need no matter how systemized it is. But I know where I keep things, even if its under a pile of other stuff.

Your last comment is also familiar with me. I put off doing my undergrad research papers until the morning they were due because otherwise I'd spend 12 hours researching but would have only have looked ast 1 or 2 sources related to my research topic.Other subjects were just more interesting to look up. As an elementary education major we were often told about the importance of structuring learning around kids interests, even if it were something as simple as writing that weeks spelling words on dinosaur cutouts - it makes them more motivated to do the task at hand



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29 Sep 2007, 9:57 am

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I thought I saw some links for the good GF web sites, but I can't seem to locate them. Or maybe I'm looking for too much hand holding instructions for the cross over :wink:
Any suggestions there?

Try http://www.glutenfreemall.com/ for starters.



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30 Sep 2007, 11:10 am

thanks for all the info, I am seriously considering this later on! I think my youngest one would benefit from it!


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01 Oct 2007, 5:06 pm

My mom is on a gluten-free diet for her gastro problems, and it's really helping, which is great. She doesn't have AS, however, just gastro problems. Since we had all the gluten-free stuff in the house anyway, I decided to try the diet for awhile to see if it "helped" my AS.

It didn't, and I wasn't surprised.

A lot of Aspies seem to have gastrointestinal problems too, and gluten-free diets might help that particular problem. Improved mood because tummy doesn't hurt- huzzah! A cure! Right?
I don't have gastro problems though, and it didn't make a difference. Why would not eating gluten make it easier to talk to people and suddenly feel a desire to make eye contact?



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01 Oct 2007, 5:39 pm

I've considered putting myself on a gluten free diet. Of course it would be different for me, because I'm an adult. I think that it would help with my incontinence. I also think that it would help to sharpen my mind, so that I would be able to handle a full day of work, because I'd be more focused. That's only the beginning. It might also help me with my weight.


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02 Oct 2007, 5:43 pm

A gluten free diet has zero medical benefits. This is a fad diet invented by naturopaths and health nuts. The only reason to avoid gluten would be if you are allergic to it, the other 99% of the population can stop worrying about it.



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03 Oct 2007, 2:12 pm

Joybob, i agree based on my own research it doesnt make since.

Gluten- and casein-free dietgluten and casein-free diet

Occurrences in nature, glutamine-view article

Glutamine is the most abundant naturally occurring, non-essential amino acid in the human body. In the body it is found circulating in the blood as well as stored in the skeletal muscles. It becomes conditionally essential (requiring intake from food or supplements) in states of illness or injury. Food sources of glutamine include meat, poultry, fish, beans, eggs, and dairy products.

Functions

1) A substrate for DNA synthesis.
2) Major role in protein synthesis.
3) Promotes muscle growth and decreases muscle catabolism. [citation needed]
4) Primary source of fuel for enterocytes (cells lining the inside of the small intestine).
5) Precursor for rapidly dividing immune cells, thus aiding in immune function.
6) Regulation of acid-base balance in the kidney.[citation needed]
7) Alternative source of fuel for the brain and helps to block cortisol-induced protein catabolism.
Cool As a form of fixed nitogen by heterocysts, exchanged for photosynthate from undifferentiated cyanobacterial cells.

In catabolic states of injury and illness, GLN becomes conditionally-essential (requring intake from food or supplements). Glutamine has been studied extensively over the past 10-15 years and has been shown to be useful in treatment of serious illnesses, injury, trauma, burns, cancer and its treatment related side-effects as well as in wound healing for postoperative patients (citation pending). That is why it is now also classified as a "nutraceutical". Glutamine is also marketed as a supplement used for muscle growth in weightlifting, bodybuilding, endurance and other sports.

based on my research from alot of different sources, glutamine is a very important amino acid that is important in the genetic code. thats why i believe having a pretty health diet, with a little bit of gluten is the most important. based on my research the best way is improving the glyoxylate cycle before providing gluten to your children, cause there is some discussion that it may be toxic to the immune system. In plants the glyoxylate cycle occurs in special peroxisomes which are called glyoxysomes. Vertebrates cannot perform the cycle because they lack its two key enzymes: isocitrate lyase and malate synthase.

I believe as long as you work on improving the glyoxylate cycle there is no need to limit your child's food choices severely. cause as long as the glyoxylate cycle has not been improved your child will always have food processing issues. it may help for a short time, but it never will be fixed unless you improve the glyoxlate cycle, and limiting your childs food intake will limit his food choices severely. do not fix it unless it is severely broken such as going to the er or something.


Article
Is Eliminating Casein and Gluten From a Child's Diet a Viable Treatment for Autism?
These claims did not turn out to be valid for 95% of the children treated with diet (NIH, 1996) and those who were helped tended to have identifiable food allergies. Evidence suggests that ADHD is a neurological condition but it is a complex disorder with little solid information about its cause. We do know that ADHD is unlikely to be caused by food allergies, excessive sugar intake, or other variables that do not affect an individual's neurological make-up.

alot of doctors were involved in this study i think parents or adults should have a allergy test done before completely removing gluten. There are two tests commonly accepted as valid means of diagnosing food allergy. These are the skin prick and RAST (radioallergosorbent) tests.
view article



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04 Oct 2007, 12:04 am

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Joybob, i agree based on my own research it doesnt make since.

Gluten- and casein-free dietgluten and casein-free diet

Occurrences in nature, glutamine-view article

Glutamine is the most abundant naturally occurring, non-essential amino acid in the human body. In the body it is found circulating in the blood as well as stored in the skeletal muscles. It becomes conditionally essential (requiring intake from food or supplements) in states of illness or injury. Food sources of glutamine include meat, poultry, fish, beans, eggs, and dairy products.

Functions

1) A substrate for DNA synthesis.
2) Major role in protein synthesis.
3) Promotes muscle growth and decreases muscle catabolism. [citation needed]
4) Primary source of fuel for enterocytes (cells lining the inside of the small intestine).
5) Precursor for rapidly dividing immune cells, thus aiding in immune function.
6) Regulation of acid-base balance in the kidney.[citation needed]
7) Alternative source of fuel for the brain and helps to block cortisol-induced protein catabolism.
Cool As a form of fixed nitogen by heterocysts, exchanged for photosynthate from undifferentiated cyanobacterial cells.

In catabolic states of injury and illness, GLN becomes conditionally-essential (requring intake from food or supplements). Glutamine has been studied extensively over the past 10-15 years and has been shown to be useful in treatment of serious illnesses, injury, trauma, burns, cancer and its treatment related side-effects as well as in wound healing for postoperative patients (citation pending). That is why it is now also classified as a "nutraceutical". Glutamine is also marketed as a supplement used for muscle growth in weightlifting, bodybuilding, endurance and other sports.

based on my research from alot of different sources, glutamine is a very important amino acid that is important in the genetic code. thats why i believe having a pretty health diet, with a little bit of gluten is the most important. based on my research the best way is improving the glyoxylate cycle before providing gluten to your children, cause there is some discussion that it may be toxic to the immune system. In plants the glyoxylate cycle occurs in special peroxisomes which are called glyoxysomes. Vertebrates cannot perform the cycle because they lack its two key enzymes: isocitrate lyase and malate synthase.

I believe as long as you work on improving the glyoxylate cycle there is no need to limit your child's food choices severely. cause as long as the glyoxylate cycle has not been improved your child will always have food processing issues. it may help for a short time, but it never will be fixed unless you improve the glyoxlate cycle, and limiting your childs food intake will limit his food choices severely. do not fix it unless it is severely broken such as going to the er or something.


Article
Is Eliminating Casein and Gluten From a Child's Diet a Viable Treatment for Autism?
These claims did not turn out to be valid for 95% of the children treated with diet (NIH, 1996) and those who were helped tended to have identifiable food allergies. Evidence suggests that ADHD is a neurological condition but it is a complex disorder with little solid information about its cause. We do know that ADHD is unlikely to be caused by food allergies, excessive sugar intake, or other variables that do not affect an individual's neurological make-up.

alot of doctors were involved in this study i think parents or adults should have a allergy test done before completely removing gluten. There are two tests commonly accepted as valid means of diagnosing food allergy. These are the skin prick and RAST (radioallergosorbent) tests.
view article


You know, you can just call people idiots for being on these diets instead of going through all the trouble of pointing out why they're dumb.



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04 Oct 2007, 10:32 pm

Joybob wrote:
A gluten free diet has zero medical benefits. This is a fad diet invented by naturopaths and health nuts. The only reason to avoid gluten would be if you are allergic to it, the other 99% of the population can stop worrying about it.

That's what the mainstream medical community would have you believe. There's a ton of cash to be made by the pharmaceutical industry (and kicked back to doctors) because doctors are telling people they need medication rather than telling them to just straighten out their diet.
Hey, if you don't want to try it, don't try it. (And don't belittle people who are trying new things for their children because the old things aren't working.) All I know is that your body functions best when it has the best stuff put into it, so if you'd rather fuel your body with the crap that 99% of the food industry produces, that's your business. PLUS, both my wife and I have lost weight just by cutting out gluten. I'm slender as it is, and she is by no means overweight. I'm certain that all the gluten in all that crappy food is heavily contributing to the obesity problem.



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05 Oct 2007, 3:59 am

MasonJar wrote:
Joybob wrote:
A gluten free diet has zero medical benefits. This is a fad diet invented by naturopaths and health nuts. The only reason to avoid gluten would be if you are allergic to it, the other 99% of the population can stop worrying about it.

That's what the mainstream medical community would have you believe. There's a ton of cash to be made by the pharmaceutical industry (and kicked back to doctors) because doctors are telling people they need medication rather than telling them to just straighten out their diet.
Hey, if you don't want to try it, don't try it. (And don't belittle people who are trying new things for their children because the old things aren't working.) All I know is that your body functions best when it has the best stuff put into it, so if you'd rather fuel your body with the crap that 99% of the food industry produces, that's your business. PLUS, both my wife and I have lost weight just by cutting out gluten. I'm slender as it is, and she is by no means overweight. I'm certain that all the gluten in all that crappy food is heavily contributing to the obesity problem.


God forbid we actually listen to doctors or scientists or people who know what they're talking about.



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05 Oct 2007, 8:56 am

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God forbid we actually listen to doctors or scientists or people who know what they're talking about.

Yes, especially those doctors and scientists who are specifically studying autism and have concluded that eliminating gluten just might be a good thing. And let's not listen to those parents who have seen dramatic improvements in their children by changing their children's diets. Why are you trying to discourage people from trying the diet? What does it matter to you?