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31 Jan 2008, 12:22 pm

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That point is well established.
BTW and how are you helping me and my son by posting on my thread?


By telling you that you are being unreasonable expecting the college to allow your son back who threatned another student via email. Your son is a danger to that college and you need to wake up to that. AS can not be used as an excuse for such foolish behaviors.


And what do I do with that?? Exactly what action or remedy? Put him in prison myself?

Again....how are you helpful stating what is already established.


That you should teach your son what is acceptable and whats not, and not blame AS for your sons lack of judgement.


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31 Jan 2008, 12:22 pm

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Your son is a danger to that college and you need to wake up to that.
Transmitting angry words through an email system, in and of itself, does not in any way make a person "dangerous".


Making a threat does!


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31 Jan 2008, 12:37 pm

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31 Jan 2008, 12:58 pm

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You not even a parent and have nothing to say here. Duh ! I have taught right from wrong and am still doing so.

You have no insight to what and how much a threat he is. When you have kids, please come back. That would be like me telling you to quit acting like you have AS, but I can't because I am NOT qualified and so you are not qualified to comment here. You are just trying to start
a lot of crap.

Again, how are you helping me by stating what everyone already knows.


If he was expelled it sounds like pretty dang good inisight to me. They dont expel people for forwarding chain emails. I have something to say here becuase I am a college student. I would not feel safe if I knew and individual that has made threats such as your son was attending my school. AS is not to blame here, so quit trying to say its ok because he has AS. Your son deserves his expaulsion and I'm not going to pretty the situation up to make you feel better - doing such would be lying.


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31 Jan 2008, 1:14 pm

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31 Jan 2008, 2:19 pm

my best guess, stilhere, is that Theface is aspie....and very often, aspies get stuck on a minor point that you may have made ( or maybe not). they also have problems interpreting others' intentions....................i would disregard the comments and move on. it's really not productive for you or Theface to continue bantering back and forth........
i know how hard it is to not feel like you're being judged for your child's actions. been there, done that.....hang in there. i hope that , as it's his first offense, they go lightly on him. i do think that there should be some sort of consequence though



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31 Jan 2008, 4:05 pm

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I don't think TheFace wants to help.

Regarding this, it depends on the threat, but it will be hard I think. In my opinion you should try to make him apologize to the girl and maybe try to explain that the e-mail was not as threating as it seemed and that the AS could have made it easy to misunderstand . It is a shame she went to the extreme, unless the letter was really threating which I doubt.

So, I think that regardless of going court and stuff the priority is to get understanding from the girl herself, once that happens I think it will be easier to prevent an expelling but either then your son might have to go take therapy . I don't think that they can prevent him from ever going to another college, so you should take into consideration that there is a big possibility he will get expelled and try to look for alternatives.


He definately should not be apologizing to this girl. He just threatened her. How do you think she is going to feel if he tries to contact her again? That alone could be enough fodder for her to press for him to be removed from campus.

he should apologize to the uni and explain his actions. Then if they care to, or she asks, that apology can be passed on to her. Under no circumstances should he make any attempt at all to say anything to her, whether in person, phone or writing.



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31 Jan 2008, 5:06 pm

i agree with triangular trees......better to have no contact with this girl. could get him into lots more trouble....



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31 Jan 2008, 5:17 pm

TheFace wrote:
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That point is well established.
BTW and how are you helping me and my son by posting on my thread?


By telling you that you are being unreasonable expecting the college to allow your son back who threatned another student via email. Your son is a danger to that college and you need to wake up to that. AS can not be used as an excuse for such foolish behaviors.


With all due respect, that argument is really shallow. Saying in a fit of fury that you're going to hurt someone and actually doing are two completely different things. Everyone has, at one time or another, said "I'm going to kill/beat-up so-and-so" out of frustration, and of course, never intended it. This individual was simply lacking enough in common sense to put it in writing.

He obviously has no common sense and needs to SERIOUSLY get himself together and act his age, but I highly doubt he's "dangerous."

stillhere: I'm very sorry about what happened, and I hope everything turns out okay. Perhaps you could reason with the university and agree to allow him to be analyzed by a psychologist or something like that?


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01 Feb 2008, 5:08 am

Phagocyte wrote:
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stillhere wrote:
TheFace:

That point is well established.
BTW and how are you helping me and my son by posting on my thread?


By telling you that you are being unreasonable expecting the college to allow your son back who threatned another student via email. Your son is a danger to that college and you need to wake up to that. AS can not be used as an excuse for such foolish behaviors.


With all due respect, that argument is really shallow. Saying in a fit of fury that you're going to hurt someone and actually doing are two completely different things. Everyone has, at one time or another, said "I'm going to kill/beat-up so-and-so" out of frustration, and of course, never intended it. This individual was simply lacking enough in common sense to put it in writing.

He obviously has no common sense and needs to SERIOUSLY get himself together and act his age, but I highly doubt he's "dangerous."

stillhere: I'm very sorry about what happened, and I hope everything turns out okay. Perhaps you could reason with the university and agree to allow him to be analyzed by a psychologist or something like that?


That's what I was going to say; you beat me to it.
I hope it all works out.


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01 Feb 2008, 5:13 am

Phagocyte wrote:
TheFace wrote:
stillhere wrote:
TheFace:

That point is well established.
BTW and how are you helping me and my son by posting on my thread?


By telling you that you are being unreasonable expecting the college to allow your son back who threatned another student via email. Your son is a danger to that college and you need to wake up to that. AS can not be used as an excuse for such foolish behaviors.


With all due respect, that argument is really shallow. Saying in a fit of fury that you're going to hurt someone and actually doing are two completely different things. Everyone has, at one time or another, said "I'm going to kill/beat-up so-and-so" out of frustration, and of course, never intended it. This individual was simply lacking enough in common sense to put it in writing.

He obviously has no common sense and needs to SERIOUSLY get himself together and act his age, but I highly doubt he's "dangerous."

stillhere: I'm very sorry about what happened, and I hope everything turns out okay. Perhaps you could reason with the university and agree to allow him to be analyzed by a psychologist or something like that?


You may think that he is not a threat, but what do the students at the University think. He should of been arrested and prosecuted if you ask me.


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01 Feb 2008, 5:33 am

We know that's what you think. :D
I think many of us disagree, and we're sure not helping bantering.
Maybe you should just leave it be.



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01 Feb 2008, 7:37 am

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01 Feb 2008, 7:42 am

Because I posted an oppinion that you disagree with?


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01 Feb 2008, 8:32 am

No, I respect your oppinion.
The discussion at this point just seems counter productive.
It is going round in circles, and no problems are being solved. The same statements are being made again and again.

IMO the OP is obviously very distressed, and I think she needs some support. I can imagine that the discussion at this point is making her more distressed, instead of helping her. I think the discussion should be more constructive from now on.



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01 Feb 2008, 8:38 am

What do you want me to do? Baby her? Make it seem better then what it is. The person made a threat via email - theres no way to pretty that up.


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