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11 Oct 2006, 7:05 pm

people are afraid of that which they don't understand.



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11 Oct 2006, 9:08 pm

I had seen that in comic called "For Better or For Worse" when I was but a teen and it holds true today.


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12 Oct 2006, 6:19 am

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ljbouchard~LOL!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!
you should see how some of my neighbors have reacted to people of different ethnicities moving into the neighborhood....never mind announcing that, umm, there might be, umm, ( mental illness).........LOL


I maybe guilty of this sad to say... As i stated in other post I live in an apartment complex. I get upset when I find that the rental agent on property put a college kid/or kids in my area. it matters little to me if they are white/black/greeen or orange.. these are all rich kids who don't foot the bill for school but their parents do.. and they don't care how they treat the property, how they drive where children play, and how they think its their given right to park in place where they should not because they are too lazy to walk. so yes I get upset and I will freely admit that I get upset with some people who move around me. but the one thing I never do is let my son get wind of the fact that I don't care for certain people to live around me. he figures this stuff out all on his own..



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12 Oct 2006, 12:06 pm

Well, I think prejudice against a particular lifestyle is different than prejudice against an ethnicity or disability. I moved out after college and while my parents helped me move in-I worked fulltime and paid my way. Versus, seeing the parents moving in a still pimply kid with his getalong gang, big monster trucks and the neon beer signs. You know what you're getting when you see that coming down the street.



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12 Oct 2006, 3:51 pm

KimJ~ I agree....no one wants to have ill-mannered neighbors...and I've had my share as well.



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13 Oct 2006, 5:28 am

About some of the comments earlier in this thread.

I think AS people get accused of lieing quite a bit because a lot of us try to hide the way we are, by offering the "version" of the story that applies to that particular person.

In my mind I never lied to my parents, I simply told them the version I knew they would understand, for I always believed there was something wrong with me, and if I tried to explain that even the TRUTH had 3 or 4 possibilities, I was terrified I would be shunned..

Nowdays I just offer my own opinion, and leave the other possibilities for others.


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30 Oct 2006, 2:43 pm

the cop is not doing what was in his best intrest to get good information. don't stress those who u are integrating and u will get more and better information



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30 Oct 2006, 2:58 pm

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You cannot always avoid situations like that though. Besides, would you rather your child turn their back on a crime rather than report it because of how they might be treated as a witness. If that is the case, then maybe we should be working on police training.


At this point, yes.

I hold some viewpoints that aren't very popular, I realize, but I have to protect my family. I got a real wake up call recently (after working in the legal system myself for years) that telling my kids when we drive by the jail that it's full of bad people was wrong. Because anyone could find themselves there, given the wrong circumstances. And I still might be there if I couldn't have afforded a really good attorney.

Our school systems here in TX (like many places) have a zero tolerance policy on violence. Several years ago my older son got beat up at a school assembly. His only action was to ask the boy to stop and to curl up on the floor to protect himself. He got stitches on his leg (cut up through his jeans), bruises on his back, and a split lip. The boy that did this had no marks. My son and that boy got the exact same punishment, despite teachers testifying on my son's behalf.

Now, my rule is, if someone hits you FIRST, then you better get them at LEAST as good as they got you (unless it's a girl, for my sons - my daughter is free to hit whomever). In my house they'll only be punished if they DIDN'T stand up for themselves.

Last year a little boy threw rocks at my daughter as she got off the bus, hitting her in the head. He went home limping. And never so much as looked at her cross-eyed again.

I only wish *I* had the physical strength/ability to get back at my attacker.


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01 Nov 2006, 6:44 am

self-defense is fine, but regulating just how much you fight back could be a serious problem....hubby would fight back when he was younger, and would often get violently out of control~and the fighting back never seemed to match the original intensity that the bully had.



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01 Nov 2006, 2:01 pm

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self-defense is fine, but regulating just how much you fight back could be a serious problem....hubby would fight back when he was younger, and would often get violently out of control~and the fighting back never seemed to match the original intensity that the bully had.


Well, bullies like to build up their anger without warning their intended victim. The victim doesn't know that anything is going on until the bully pops him one and surprises him. By the time the victim gets angry the bully is already satisfied and into a "what is he going on about?" frame of mine.



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01 Nov 2006, 11:58 pm

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This post hit a chord in me, because i have often been accused of 'lying' about a particular incident, people always assume that im changing my story from one lie to the other. I think its an AS related thing, I dont know WHY but when i tell an account about something it always seems to... i dont know... come out differently, but i know that im talking about the same events and not changing evrything... but people always assume im lying :(


My Son is like that, he says a ehole bunch of things to say the same thing! I find it funny but it can be frustarted to some but if the end is ultimately the same I know he is saying the truth. One thing I have learned is never to call my son a liar it upsets him and then he losses confidence in me.



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02 Nov 2006, 1:40 am

Scintillate wrote:
About some of the comments earlier in this thread.

I think AS people get accused of lieing quite a bit because a lot of us try to hide the way we are, by offering the "version" of the story that applies to that particular person.

In my mind I never lied to my parents, I simply told them the version I knew they would understand, for I always believed there was something wrong with me, and if I tried to explain that even the TRUTH had 3 or 4 possibilities, I was terrified I would be shunned..

Nowdays I just offer my own opinion, and leave the other possibilities for others.


Sometimes we are accued of lying because the person making the accusation didn't understand the phrasing he used when asking the question. The boy that this thread is about sounds like he answered the police officer exactly as the police officer asked the questions. The boy will probably never understand why the officer got hostile. This is also a pose that is often used by bullying types to give themselves an excuse.



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08 Nov 2006, 12:09 pm

Remnant wrote:
ster wrote:
self-defense is fine, but regulating just how much you fight back could be a serious problem....hubby would fight back when he was younger, and would often get violently out of control~and the fighting back never seemed to match the original intensity that the bully had.


Well, bullies like to build up their anger without warning their intended victim. The victim doesn't know that anything is going on until the bully pops him one and surprises him. By the time the victim gets angry the bully is already satisfied and into a "what is he going on about?" frame of mine.


And I'll be lucky if my son ever defends himself at all. He's gotten the tar beat out of him by kids less than half his size. I really do want him to learn to stand up for himself.

He gets mad, but he holds it in until he gets home, and takes it out the family. He needs to learn better ways to vent his anger. Among those I have no problem with him hitting back someone who has attacked him. (as long as it's not a girl, and he knows that).

Same thing for my daughter. Anyone touches her, she is fully expected to fight back (and she's been taught how to do so).


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08 Nov 2006, 12:37 pm

self defense is such a tricky subject...especially when you're talking about people who may or may not have the best sense of self-regulation & self-control....



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02 Dec 2006, 10:12 am

If bullies get a good hiding from one of their victims, they will think twice about doing it the next time.


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02 Dec 2006, 4:51 pm

And if someone cripples them they won't even have to strain their brain cells to figure out what not to do.