Illusion of Choice For Guys in a Relationship

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07 Dec 2014, 6:45 pm

cubedemon6073 wrote:
For example, if certain things are unknown to me and in fact I could not have conceived of them making it unknown, unknown then what was my part exactly? What was my role if something went wrong that was to my detriment. Why make someone responsible and accountable for something that was an unknown, unknown?


Your part is misplaced trust

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How is it reasonable for those individuals who encounter this and only considered his actions within the known context and be made personally responsible for detrimental failures caused by not knowing what was out of the context and operated within certain assumptions and the context? This is what I am asking?


You mean the individuals that encounter this type of scenario;
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The usual example given to illustrate an Outside Context Problem was imagining you were a tribe on a largish, fertile island; you'd tamed the land, invented the wheel or writing or whatever, the neighbors were cooperative or enslaved but at any rate peaceful and you were busy raising temples to yourself with all the excess productive capacity you had, you were in a position of near-absolute power and control which your hallowed ancestors could hardly have dreamed of and the whole situation was just running along nicely like a canoe on wet grass... when suddenly this bristling lump of iron appears sailless and trailing steam in the bay and these guys carrying long funny-looking sticks come ashore and announce you've just been discovered, you're all subjects of the Emperor now, he's keen on presents called tax and these bright-eyed holy men would like a word with your priests. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excession# ... xt_Problem


Reason don't come into it. Self-preservation on the other hand does. I would hope not to be amongst the first batch that encounters these men with big sticks and after I saw them big sticks spew fire and magically knock down my tribal members I would run or hide.
Those individuals on the other hand are fighting. Maybe with words but a battle still. A lost battle I dare to add cause you don't stand a chance against the men with sticks. Bit like soldiers that are sent to war and then blame their government for getting shot at.
So what they were told it would be dangerous.
Do you blame the government for not telling them or do you blame them for not asking?

I'm no American so see this with European eyes so maybe that is why I can't figure out what all this has to do with the thread title or parenting in general.

But since it was my original comment that lead to this thread (and I had originally expected you to ask this in Love and Dating) I have taken the liberty of mentioning it...