Autism and Vaccines

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Are you serious? You really think being autistic is at all comparable to being dead? That's horrifying!

It may not be comparable to the child, but the parents have every right to decide it is to them, and that's what matters.

kraftykirty , hello everyone . These are treacherous ground . The fact no epidemic came in earlier decades, might be caused by the absence of causing ingredients ( and I am sure they have been changed) . Also the cdc hidden report of scientific research' results of the correlation in 2004 , maintained that there is a 300 percent increase in probability of developing symptoms, with vaccinations in black children ! Why was the research halted and buried ? . So to claim outright that vaccines are not a cause for autism is to be overlooking the potential of some sort of link , that was not investigated . This is worst than man slaughter , it is a human gene slaughter . It is time to claim the responsibility that we were entrusted . In this world it seems this is becoming a difficult task .

Stop spreading misinformation: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concer ... trics.html


The data is available. The data indicated that the children you speak of were already autistic and that they were vaccinated late as a result of it being required for special education preschools they were attending... because they already had developmental disabilities. If you are wondering why neurotypical kids weren't also vaccinated late as they prepared to enter preschool... well parents of NT kids are less likely to send their kids to a PUBLIC preschool, which is what special needs preschools are, so vaccinations are required for those public preschools. NT kids go mostly to private preschools because most public preschools are.... guess what... for special needs kids. It's rare for there to exist a public preschool for non-delayed kids, usually they are aimed at getting the special needs kids ready for kindergarten. Private preschools usually don't have the same vaccination requirements because they don't have to. Some kids were left out of the study entirely because demographic information wasn't available to them.

Also the data is likely skewed because back then delaying vaccination was common due to the wakefield study published in 1998. I have no doubt that people honestly believing that "vaccines caused autism" based on that fraudulent data would have skewed their data. My daughter was born in 2007, before the study was redacted. I suspected autism ran in my family and I suspected she might be autistic, even from birth there were red flags. So I delayed her vaccinations worried that if she wasn't they might push her over the edge or some silly crap like that. I got her caught up right around age 3 when it was obvious she was autistic, no vaccines involved. Surely, I'm not the only one who had that thought process.

I'm going to take things a step further from what other people have said on this thread.

I feel badly for the children of people like Jenny McCarthy who still push the thoroughly debunked notion that vaccines cause autism. The reason I feel badly for them is that it's obvious that the reason these parents are pushing that lie so much -- even when it's been definitively proven that there is no link between vaccinations and autism -- is because those parents find the "ordeal" of having a child with autism so horrible that they are telling other potential parents that allowing their children to get sick and possibly die is preferable to having children like theirs.

This means that Jenny McCarthy and others of her ilk do not actually love their children. They find their children to be an unacceptable burden. They think their children with autism are so awful that they are warning other parents to take measures (even if those measures are scientifically invalid) to prevent them from ending up with children like their own.

How do you think their children must feel to know that they are unacceptable to their parents? Many of us with autism know what it feels like to be unloved because of our disorder, but these children are suffering through their parents publicly proclaiming that they don't love their children.

It's beyond awful. Shame on those parents.

I don't agree with it but I suspect that rather than singularly hating their children, most of these parents are just really struggling. (Although I believe McCarthy profits from it?) In the same way that some people with cancer push woo treatments even though it's killing them. I think a parent can love their kid and resent the pressure at the same time. They probably need an awful lot of support (for care/respite not their views).

I know my SIL has said she just wouldn't cope if it wasn't for the rest of the family - my nephew is severely autistic. She's a single mum and lives with MIL and FIL but also has a lot of support from SIL and her girlfriend. She does think the world of him but there's lots of parents at his school that don't have the same attitude. I don't believe they all hate their kids.

It is, however, more likely that the child already had autism and just before the point where signs such as loss of speach become apparent is the usual point in a child's life when routine vaccinations are received.
It may also be possible that in the presentations of Autism involving significant sensory issues, the points where speach loss and other signs are observed could be the points where sense have developed to the point where they can start to overload the childs mind, and under such an overload there may be few resources left to deal with such things as speach.

Only A Social communication disorder ? What is it with those who are severe? I think it is more than a social comm disorder .

I always get my 2-year old son(who just dog diagnosed with Autism) vaccinated. It's important, I'd rather he get a vaccination, then get a deadly illness. That's my opinion.

If there were no vaccinations, we would go back to medieval days when there were many "X's" on doors from people dying of various diseases.

^ Exactly. Autism rates would drop, but mostly from the amount of kids dying in childbirth or before they were old enough to be diagnosed with autism.

excuse me, claiming vaccines doesnt cause autism bears no medical proof. the burden was on governments and scientists to prove that vaccines dont cause autism, but little research has been done to the opposite. the very high rate of autism cases , cannot be explained by genetics,pollution or otherwise. no rational person would think that these high percentages are an effect of genetics, this means that every ten married couples there is a couple who will produce an autistic child. which is impossible, unless there is a huge mutation of the human gene that is causing this . also a large majority of children of autism start to develop autism symptoms, after they had very normal beginnings,why is that? of course some vaccines are causing autism,and it is in the benefit of huge corporations not to admit it.

There is actually tonnes of evidence showing that vaccines do not cause autism, and children with autism have it from birth, you just don't always see signs of it until they get to the age of where they would start to talk and interact more with people (which is coincidentally and not causally around the time they get vaccinated). Your post is full of ignorance, and if you are truly a parent of an autistic child I hope you get yourself accurately educated on the issue, for the sake of your child's health and well-being.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/autism.html

http://www.immunize.org/catg.d/p4026.pdf

https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/re ... nd-autism/

https://consumer.healthday.com/cognitiv ... 43005.html

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 0X14006367

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... e-science/

Ha ha ha who tells you these proofs? Governments bought by pharmaceuticals . Otherwise how can you explain this epidemic? Genes, pesticides or a combination of the two ?

Or maybe an extraterrestrial plot to eradicate the human race , and the fact that SUTISM was always there In similar numbers , but it is the accuracy of diagnosis that has revealed the reality ?

The "epidemic" is mainly due to the increased availability of information about autism and of diagnosis--that means that more clinicians than in the past have knowledge about autism and can diagnose it where before they were uninformed and often children with developmental issues would be missed entirely or misdiagnosed with learning disabilities or other issues instead of autism. Also public awareness has increased so that people who might before not have sought help for their struggling autistic children now do so. An example of this phenomenon would be that now more girls and women are being diagnosed than before because it used to be misunderstood to be a "male" disorder and that women couldn't be autistic so they would be misdiagnosed with ADD or a mental illness instead of being accurately labelled as autistic, but now that we know that autism can present different in women and girls it is being recognised for what it is and diagnosed in them more often.

You are tragically ignorant about autism, I really hope you aren't a parent of an autistic child because they are going to have a lot of trouble in the future with such an ignorant parent to rely on. Get educated, talk to your child's doctor, go to your local library and ask for information about autism, find out if there are support groups for parents of autistic children in your area and join one. Do this for your child's sake, they deserve to have a parent who cares to be properly informed about their condition. Your remaining wilfully ignorant could seriously damage the well-being of your child.