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Booyakasha
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04 Oct 2018, 4:22 pm

Shymaa mmm wrote:
Wow! Thank you booyakasha for answering in details may God bless you and your family
Will I can't know what exactly he likes to do
He interstated in science, space and solar system ,Art work, hand crafts, music, football, kick boxing.... So many things but he is this kind of boring kids( he hate long term work ) plus he didn't usually respond, trainers have to call his name again and again ,its not easy to direct him so they always complain about his disobey,
When I ask him ; why u don't listen to ur teacher? he said " I will do next time "
So I should find a professional therapist to direct me.

Last night I was thinking about taking him out of that school.


No problem :) I'm happy to help if I can.

Maybe you could buy him toolkits to explore or study at home?

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kraftikorti yes he knows that
he know how much i love him and respect him

i never go mad becous he want be with his book actually he love to play more than reading

discussing something with other kids, that his mean problem :|


he's lucky to have a such a nice and supportive mum!

if he has so much support at home i hope all will be well with a bit of professional help. I think family is what matters the most, if he has a strong basis at home he's lucky already.

Have you tried talking to him, to see what would he like to do about his school etc? Would he like to be homeschooled?



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04 Oct 2018, 4:52 pm

yes booyaksha i asked him he refuse to study at home he want to study at school with lovely kids and teachers
and he want study by activities and he wish he never use Ben
he heats to writ



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04 Oct 2018, 11:57 pm

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Now my big problem is how he feels he is very depressed and looks so sad I am afraid he thinks to hurt himself again :( I should found a professional therapist as soon as possible
I wish I could see him play and joy with his friends

(1) Making friends should not be the priority. Autistic people are only 2% of our society. The friends he makes today are virtually worthless. Let relationships develop on their own. First of all, there are always nice people in the world. Secondly, the chance of finding educated people that can relate to your son increases as he climbs up in academic achievement. The kind of "friends" around your son today are "unfiltered," it's not worth your son's time to pursue those relationships. Please be patient. After your son goes into university, then master's program, and perhaps Ph.D. program, you will see that he will make more and more friends: high-quality friends.

(2) Professional therapists out there don't understand autism. They often tend to cause more harm than good. Ironically, autism is not hard to understand: autism means a person's mind often gets stuck on one single issue. So, when they are mad/sad/depressed, they are not able to connect to their happy moments. Vice-versa, when they are happy, they don't remember at all about their mad/sad/depressed moments. Your job is to have fun and happy time with your son, and remind him about his mad/sad/depressed moments. And when he is mad/sad/depressed, remind him about his happy moments. Sometimes life is tough. Sometimes life is fun. Read this:

http://www.eikonabridge.com/fun_and_facts.pdf

If you must use a professional therapist, print the article out and take it to the therapist. You can take another copy to your son's teacher.


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05 Oct 2018, 6:30 am

Okay
Let me tell you something very important I am who diagnosis my son condition hi is suffering from social incompatibility and ther's also symptoms of ADHD like :
Oppoisitionl defient disorder
Conduct disorders
Anixety and depression :(

So that Iam looking for a professional therapist
And I keep asking everyone have an experience or any information
However I never said so to one of his teachers or family even my mother
In Arabic society most of people wll treat him as crazy person :cry:
:cry:
Most of people out there are ruff and harsh
Has no feeling :cry: :cry:
While my lovely son is kind and so sweet :heart:



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05 Oct 2018, 7:15 am

Shymaa mmm wrote:
Okay
Let me tell you something very important I am who diagnosis my son condition hi is suffering from social incompatibility and ther's also symptoms of ADHD like :
Oppoisitionl defient disorder
Conduct disorders
Anixety and depression :(

So that Iam looking for a professional therapist
And I keep asking everyone have an experience or any information
However I never said so to one of his teachers or family even my mother
In Arabic society most of people wll treat him as crazy person :cry:
:cry:
Most of people out there are ruff and harsh
Has no feeling :cry: :cry:
While my lovely son is kind and so sweet :heart:


Hang in there! I'm sorry if things are so rough for your son.

If he wants to continue in school can you afford to transfer him to some private school with better care?

it would be great if there is some relative who could guide him through the social protocol.

How does he get along with his dad? Maybe dad could help him with social issues too.



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05 Oct 2018, 7:19 am

This is what Mayo Clinic says about the treatment for the ODD:

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... c-20375837

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Lifestyle and home remedies
At home, you can begin chipping away at problem behaviors of oppositional defiant disorder by practicing these strategies:

Recognize and praise your child's positive behaviors. Be as specific as possible, such as, "I really liked the way you helped pick up your toys tonight." Providing rewards for positive behavior also may help, especially with younger children.

Model the behavior you want your child to have. Demonstrating appropriate interactions and modeling socially appropriate behavior can help your child improve social skills.

Pick your battles and avoid power struggles. Almost everything can turn into a power struggle, if you let it.

Set limits by giving clear and effective instructions and enforcing consistent reasonable consequences. Discuss setting these limits during times when you're not confronting each other.

Set up a routine by developing a consistent daily schedule for your child. Asking your child to help develop that routine may be beneficial.

Build in time together by developing a consistent weekly schedule that involves you and your child spending time together.

Work together with your partner or others in your household to ensure consistent and appropriate discipline procedures. Also enlist support from teachers, coaches and other adults who spend time with your child.

Assign a household chore that's essential and that won't get done unless the child does it. Initially, it's important to set your child up for success with tasks that are relatively easy to achieve and gradually blend in more important and challenging expectations. Give clear, easy-to-follow instructions.

Be prepared for challenges early on. At first, your child probably won't be cooperative or appreciate your changed response to his or her behavior. Expect behavior to temporarily worsen in the face of new expectations. Remaining consistent in the face of increasingly challenging behavior is the key to success at this early stage.


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The cornerstones of treatment for ODD usually include:

Parent training. A mental health professional with experience treating ODD may help you develop parenting skills that are more consistent, positive and less frustrating for you and your child. In some cases, your child may participate in this training with you, so everyone in your family develops shared goals for how to handle problems. Involving other authority figures, such as teachers, in the training may be an important part of treatment.

Parent-child interaction therapy (PCIT). During PCIT, a therapist coaches parents while they interact with their child. In one approach, the therapist sits behind a one-way mirror and, using an "ear bug" audio device, guides parents through strategies that reinforce their child's positive behavior. As a result, parents learn more-effective parenting techniques, the quality of the parent-child relationship improves, and problem behaviors decrease.

Individual and family therapy. Individual therapy for your child may help him or her learn to manage anger and express feelings in a healthier way. Family therapy may help improve your communication and relationships and help members of your family learn how to work together.

Cognitive problem-solving training. This type of therapy is aimed at helping your child identify and change thought patterns that lead to behavior problems. Collaborative problem-solving — in which you and your child work together to come up with solutions that work for both of you — can help improve ODD-related problems.

Social skills training. Your child may also benefit from therapy that will help him or her be more flexible and learn how to interact more positively and effectively with peers.



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05 Oct 2018, 7:26 am

Do you think ODD is the cause of him being bullied by other children?

Or is he isolated, looks/acts differently, is a bit too smart for his own good?

If the direct cause for his bullying is discovered he could be helped more easily. If he wants to stay in some school it would be crucial if he'd have at least one friend there - that friend would act as a shield.



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05 Oct 2018, 12:23 pm

He is ok with his dad but my husband is little bit nervous

I would take him to the 3 hour school its affordable in price


Do you think ODD is the cause of him being bullied by other children?
" yes I do "


Or is he isolated, looks/acts differently, is a bit too smart for his own good?

Absolutely.

That article you sent is very useful , I would follow some advices.



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05 Oct 2018, 12:38 pm

Shymaa mmm wrote:
He is ok with his dad but my husband is little bit nervous

I would take him to the 3 hour school its affordable in price


Sounds like a great plan!

Shymaa mmm wrote:
Do you think ODD is the cause of him being bullied by other children?
" yes I do "


OK, so at least you know the cause.

Shymaa mmm wrote:
Or is he isolated, looks/acts differently, is a bit too smart for his own good?

Absolutely.

That article you sent is very useful , I would follow some advices.


Happy to hear that!

Here is a video as well:



I don't know if more articles are of any help, but I've found more, i guess it can't harm:

https://blog.brainbalancecenters.com/20 ... order-kids



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05 Oct 2018, 5:43 pm

Yep booyasha every information would be useful, :)
Lemme ask you a question if you don't mind what is the meaning of booyakasha because I go Google and found something I don't like :lol:



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06 Oct 2018, 12:01 am

Shymaa mmm wrote:
Yep booyasha every information would be useful, :)
Lemme ask you a question if you don't mind what is the meaning of booyakasha because I go Google and found something I don't like :lol:


Lol well it's an expression my friend used to use a lot some decade ago, so when I was registering here and when I had to write down my username it was the first thing that popped to mind :lol: It was late in the night and I wasn't thinking much or googling it lol. I thought it's something Ali G uses as a joke.

Only later did people tell me it might mean something offensive, but usernames can't be changed here.



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06 Oct 2018, 5:48 pm

Sounds nice booyakasha

Nowadays my son says he always feel headaches I well take him to the hospital tomorrow but am really concerned



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07 Oct 2018, 12:49 am

Shymaa mmm wrote:
Sounds nice booyakasha

Nowadays my son says he always feel headaches I well take him to the hospital tomorrow but am really concerned


thanks!

Constant headaches can be a sign of depression, hope that some professional could help him.



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07 Oct 2018, 3:15 am

OMG!
I hope he gets rid of depression
I suppose the headache to his eyes because he only feels like that when he study or read.



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07 Oct 2018, 3:30 am

Shymaa mmm wrote:
Okay
Let me tell you something very important I am who diagnosis my son condition hi is suffering from social incompatibility and ther's also symptoms of ADHD like :
Oppoisitionl defient disorder
Conduct disorders
Anixety and depression :(

So that Iam looking for a professional therapist
And I keep asking everyone have an experience or any information
However I never said so to one of his teachers or family even my mother
In Arabic society most of people wll treat him as crazy person :cry:
:cry:
Most of people out there are ruff and harsh
Has no feeling :cry: :cry:
While my lovely son is kind and so sweet :heart:


You mentioned in a previous post that you travelled to Uganda and India. Is it possible to travel somewhere where you’d find a professional therapist if you can’t find someone in Egypt?


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07 Oct 2018, 3:30 am

I hope things improve for you and your son.


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