do you like your son/daughter the way they are?

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Ana54
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26 Jun 2009, 9:02 am

I love my son exactly the way he is and there is nothing I would change about him. I always knew he would be good enough. I had faith in him.



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06 Jul 2009, 9:20 am

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Or would you cure them if possible? I had a talk with my dad yesterday morning and he said he wouldn't change me but said if I were mentally ret*d or like a girl down the street from us who's VERY autistic then he'd cure me if he could "waive a magic wand" and do so. Do you think it all depends on how handicapped the person is like my dad was saying? Or do you think any disability is bad? Discuss here.


There is no such thing as disability,just this ability....

So for me it is appropriate to use the word DIFFERENCE than using the word DISABILITY

PS:it is only based on my opinion...nobody's perfect and I am nobody :) (joke)



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06 Jul 2009, 5:20 pm

Just the thought of changing my kids on the spectrum brings tears to my eyes, seriously. But this is now...after lots of therapy and supports, none of which changed who they were---all of which helped them to be able to do things that THEY wanted to do. Back in the day that my son would spend hours of most days having meltdowns over things like, say, falling asleep in the car and not seeing all of the landmarks in order on a familiar drive...? Well, back then I didn't want to change HIM but that kind of life was as hard on him as everyone around him.

Some of the things I love most about my kids are their Aspie traits. Conversing with them is often more fruitful than conversing with most of the adults around me. lol!



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08 Jul 2009, 7:46 am

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Just the thought of changing my kids on the spectrum brings tears to my eyes, seriously. But this is now...after lots of therapy and supports, none of which changed who they were---all of which helped them to be able to do things that THEY wanted to do. Back in the day that my son would spend hours of most days having meltdowns over things like, say, falling asleep in the car and not seeing all of the landmarks in order on a familiar drive...? Well, back then I didn't want to change HIM but that kind of life was as hard on him as everyone around him.

Some of the things I love most about my kids are their Aspie traits. Conversing with them is often more fruitful than conversing with most of the adults around me. lol!


Your kids are blessed.



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08 Jul 2009, 11:50 am

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Right now, it's tough to hear her say things like "Well today is "twin day" at school where everyone dresses like their friends. But since I don't have any friends I guess I'll just wear whatever I feel like".


After years of tears from my AS son as well other kids at the school - including many NT's - I finally talked to the school principal about it, and twin days no longer exist. She simply took it off the list of options of spirit day themes the student council picks. It is SO much better not having this event.


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08 Jul 2009, 11:59 am

i have a strong faith life. my son was recently diagnosed with asperger's syndrome. i read in the bible, " you are fearfully and wonderfully made." and "before i formed you in the womb i knew you". I dont believe my God makes mistakes....i do believe people do make mistakes.....After reading more on Asperger's syndrome....and coming to understand it....no I would never change my son!! !! He is a beutiful, highly intelligent, funny individual who is FULL of life and energy. I have to learn new better ways to parent him....which is a constant endeavor for me. I feel he is perfect....I love him just the way he is....He has taught me sooooo much about life and love.

I dont think it is our children we need to "wishfully" think about changing. I believe it is society that needs to be changed....we tollerate all kinds of other individuals who are "different" than us....short people, tall people, the gay and lesbian community, religiouse differences, political differences...racial differences.....adults and children alike need to learn to tollerate the individual differences of learning and social differences among us.....I thank God that he gave me all three of my children....as He seen fit to give them to me......



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09 Jul 2009, 5:27 pm

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But imagine if my son was always depressed. If he hated his life. If his talents didn't rise up, and his life was drowning in burdens. Then HE would want to be different. And, so, I would want it for him. If your child doesn't seem happy or able to function in any way in this world, you, as a parent, are going to want to do what you can to change that. It is our job, after all, to raise happy kids that will grow into happy adults able to stand on their own. Just how driven I would be would probably depend on what I believed my child wanted - I am, generally, highly child driven when I make my decisions, trying to be sure I do what they WANT for themselves, not just what I want for them.

So true, and isn't that in the end WHY we get our children evaluated? To help change the way they cope with certain things to make their lives easier.

There's a difference between changing the person and changing their lives.


As for me, i was (am) not diagnosed and i had what i call a crash course at life my whole childhood, particularly school since i could pretty much go to my own world once i went home, it was hard and especially the decade from age 4-14 it was painful and i was miserable, lonely and just general unhappy, i didn't ever fit in (even when i got friends at high school i was included and loved but didn't really "fit in") and i didn't understand why, i didn't understand myself or other people or why we reacted to each other the way we did, that's the most positive thing of my self diagnosis, to finally understand that one thing. As a smaller kid (5-9ish) i would come home from school and throw myself on the floor and sob, every day, because the experience was just not something i wasn't built to be able to cope with.

At the end of the day, i don't know that my life would have been better had we known all along i had AS, i am thankful that time in my life is over and many struggles i face now are much more under my control (i.e. i can choose to expose myself to situations or not for the most part) but i certainly wouldn't change myself to have avoided those hardships, as DW_a_mom said, NT or otherwise we ALL go through difficulties in life and changing who we are is never the answer to dealing with those hardships and would not prevent life from being difficult at times.

If someone is extremely disabled, then that is a more difficult question to answer. Example, my neice has spina bifida, her brain is perfect and she is a beautiful healthy normal little 4 year old, but her legs don't work and she can't control her bowels at all. So she is in a wheel chair, has a shunt in her skull to drain fluid from her brain (that would otherwise have her a vegetable a long time ago) As a mother of a child like that, i don't know how i would answer this question. I would want to change her body to make her life easier but would that change her strong willed personality?

At the end of the day, i'm a person of faith, i don't question the reason God creates people the way He does, i just know there is wisdom behind it and love these people who who they are and not what they can and can't do according to "normal"



Yes, I do think this is why we have our children diagnosed or tested so that we have some kind of explanation for their "difficulties" and so that we can make life easier for them and remove the barriers that might keep them from learning or making friends or just surviving in this life!

Jeana



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11 Jul 2009, 5:49 am

Personally for my son no I wouldn't change him not one tiny bit, life and experiences and some help have changed some aspects of him and I suppose I contributed to parts of that, gone are the days of chasing him around the playground to get him into school etc- they grow and develop as most kids do.

But my answer to the OP is yes their are different degrees or 'worse' disabilities I believe there is a point where a cure with a magic wand should be used, personally for me that point would be where the person was incapable of enjoying ANY part of being alive for whatever reason/disability and there was no other hope of that changing ever.
I believe we'd all have that point where things were so bad what ever your beliefs for the sake of your child you would wave that wand even if just to end their suffering, obviously the cured child that emerges is a new person but who will feel that pain that loss - the parent- who are any of us to judge where that point lies for another person. We take a responsibility on to make these kind of decsions when we become parents and however hard they are it is up to those parents to make the call and live with the results either way- no one should be judged for making their best efforts to help their children or other loved ones.



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14 Jul 2009, 3:23 am

I really don't think there's a right or wrong answer to this. It is a fact of life that no one characteristic exists in isolation. It's surely impossible to change one thing without that affecting other things. Yet I totally hear the people who say they'd fix the allergies, the anxieties... We certainly do try to fix those things with coaching and environmental controls.

The characteristics of human life are part of continuum. There's not clear defining line between what is just me and what would be good to fix if we could. After all, nobody's perfect.

The short answer is, no, I wouldn't fix my son's Aspergers. He is a blessed enough child to have the ability to love and pursue a fulfilling life.