Is it reasonable for a 31 year old to be banned fromcaffeine
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Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
After tonight I will be given my freedom to make alll my own decisions and be my own man
How'd that come about?
My parents just decided it was time for me to sink or swim but I am still alllowed to live at home
You should take advice from goldfish. I know how to swim. :p
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goldfish21 wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
After tonight I will be given my freedom to make alll my own decisions and be my own man
How'd that come about?
My parents just decided it was time for me to sink or swim but I am still alllowed to live at home
You should take advice from goldfish. I know how to swim. :p
Lol thanks very much buddy
Well, given the latest turn, I fully support your doing your best to swim. It's OK to fall a few times along the way; that is how you learn. Start small, build up. Best wishes for success!
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DW_a_mom wrote:
Well, given the latest turn, I fully support your doing your best to swim. It's OK to fall a few times along the way; that is how you learn. Start small, build up. Best wishes for success!
Well I tried to order one light beer at a restaurant after services and my parents yelled at me all day and won’t let me use the family computer or any computer besides a iPad and I came this close to being homeless for the eleventh time. My dad bullies me and causes me out all the time and mom is even worse he was more concerned being seen with with his own son drinking a beer at a restaurant than making sure he feels safe in his own home my parents are beyond abusive and they make my life heck he doesn’t want to upset the Pharisees at church when Jesus clearly drank a lot of wine and turned the water into the wine in the gospel hopefully tomorrow will be better I wanted to buy beer at luncch with my money but my parents refuse let me buy beer and drink after church at a restaurant with my own money because they toook away my debit card and micromanage my life n every way my day threatens to drag me outside physically to evict me and I had to tell him he would have to call the cops to. Evict out to the backyard because I wanted one bud light at the restaurant right after church I. Am a dad mocks me and belittles all the time and I almost ran away from home tonight after he said he would rather me be under a overpass than drink beer on sundays at a restaurant my life is a never ending nightmar because of my parents
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Well, given the latest turn, I fully support your doing your best to swim. It's OK to fall a few times along the way; that is how you learn. Start small, build up. Best wishes for success!
Well I tried to order one light beer at a restaurant after services and my parents yelled at me all day and won’t let me use the family computer or any computer besides a iPad and I came this close to being homeless for the eleventh time. My dad bullies me and causes me out all the time and mom is even worse he was more concerned being seen with with his own son drinking a beer at a restaurant than making sure he feels safe in his own home my parents are beyond abusive and they make my life heck he doesn’t want to upset the Pharisees at church when Jesus clearly drank a lot of wine and turned the water into the wine in the gospel hopefully tomorrow will be better I wanted to buy beer at luncch with my money but my parents refuse let me buy beer and drink after church at a restaurant with my own money because they toook away my debit card and micromanage my life n every way my day threatens to drag me outside physically to evict me and I had to tell him he would have to call the cops to. Evict out to the backyard because I wanted one bud light at the restaurant right after church I. Am a dad mocks me and belittles all the time and I almost ran away from home tonight after he said he would rather me be under a overpass than drink beer on sundays at a restaurant my life is a never ending nightmar because of my parents
Hm, it sounds like they might want to be sure you sink so they can get you to shut up about wanting to make your own decisions.
I do have a question. Did you know how they feel about alcohol after church services? How do they feel about alcohol in general?
If you know they don't approve, my next question is simple: why would you make a choice in their company that you KNOW will piss them off? That isn't "swim" decision making. Part of being an adult is accurately assessing the situation you are in, and some things just aren't done in front of parents. There is plenty is my life that I have a right to do but wisely choose not to ever do in front of my parents. It isn't about the money. It's about respecting them as people. I don't choose to order and eat a rare steak in front of sensitive vegetarian friends, and I don't drink alcohol in front of people I know consider it inappropriate in the time and place. FYI a lot of people consider it inappropriate to have alcohol on Sundays and / or at lunch.
I don't know your parents and I don't know the situation, I'm just asking questions and throwing out possibilities. What I want you to think about it is whether your actions made sense in the situation, or if you were simply eager to assert your independence. Having a right to do something does not always mean it is right to do something. But maybe they are just giving you opportunities to mess up under their ever changing standards. I don't know. Just ... be sure you are making WISE choices, not just "I have a right to" choices. There is a difference.
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DW_a_mom wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Well, given the latest turn, I fully support your doing your best to swim. It's OK to fall a few times along the way; that is how you learn. Start small, build up. Best wishes for success!
Well I tried to order one light beer at a restaurant after services and my parents yelled at me all day and won’t let me use the family computer or any computer besides a iPad and I came this close to being homeless for the eleventh time. My dad bullies me and causes me out all the time and mom is even worse he was more concerned being seen with with his own son drinking a beer at a restaurant than making sure he feels safe in his own home my parents are beyond abusive and they make my life heck he doesn’t want to upset the Pharisees at church when Jesus clearly drank a lot of wine and turned the water into the wine in the gospel hopefully tomorrow will be better I wanted to buy beer at luncch with my money but my parents refuse let me buy beer and drink after church at a restaurant with my own money because they toook away my debit card and micromanage my life n every way my day threatens to drag me outside physically to evict me and I had to tell him he would have to call the cops to. Evict out to the backyard because I wanted one bud light at the restaurant right after church I. Am a dad mocks me and belittles all the time and I almost ran away from home tonight after he said he would rather me be under a overpass than drink beer on sundays at a restaurant my life is a never ending nightmar because of my parents
Hm, it sounds like they might want to be sure you sink so they can get you to shut up about wanting to make your own decisions.
I do have a question. Did you know how they feel about alcohol after church services? How do they feel about alcohol in general?
If you know they don't approve, my next question is simple: why would you make a choice in their company that you KNOW will piss them off? That isn't "swim" decision making. Part of being an adult is accurately assessing the situation you are in, and some things just aren't done in front of parents. There is plenty is my life that I have a right to do but wisely choose not to ever do in front of my parents. It isn't about the money. It's about respecting them as people. I don't choose to order and eat a rare steak in front of sensitive vegetarian friends, and I don't drink alcohol in front of people I know consider it inappropriate in the time venue and place. FYI a lot of people consider it inappropriate to have alcohol on Sundays and / or at lunch
I don't know your parents and I don't know the situation, I'm just asking questions and throwing out possibilities. What I want you to think about it is whether your actions made sense in the situation, or if you were simply eager to assert your independence. Having a right to do something does not always mean it is right to do something. But maybe they are just giving you opportunities to mess up under their ever changing standards. I don't know. Just ... be sure you are making WISE choices, not just "I have a right to" choices. There is a difference.
It’s considered a sin in my church to judge other Christian’s by what they eat and drink and the church of Christ teachers that you are not supposed to let another christian judge you by what you and drink
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kraftiekortie wrote:
In other words…you probably shouldn’t have ordered the beer in your parents’ company.
Part of being an adult is knowing your situation.
Part of being an adult is knowing your situation.
I did not order the beer and it’s considered wrong in the church of Christ to judge other christiansby what they eat and drink accorrding to bible a rule from the Bible is that we not supposed to let all other Christian’s judge what we eat and drink Christian’s in the Bible drank at church and they drank multiple times a day together and the Bible teaches that wine is a blessing from Jesus Christian’s in the Bible drank at church every day and drinking was part of the worship service in early christianity the early Christian’s were commanded to drink wine together in worship they thought that Jesus was a drunk
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Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
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Shoulda ordered 2 beers; 1 for you, 1 for your dad.
Lol that’s a good one buddy he let me order one today this afternoon
Buy him one and apologize for not getting him one last Sunday.
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Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
But maybe they are just giving you opportunities to mess up under their ever changing standards. I don't know. Just ... be sure you are making WISE choices, not just "I have a right to" choices. There is a difference.
It’s considered a sin in my church to judge other Christian’s by what they eat and drink and the church of Christ teachers that you are not supposed to let another christian judge you by what you and drink
That passage isn't designed to be used as shield for doing something you expect will anger someone. So my question continues to be whether or not you could have expected their reaction. I accept their reaction was terrible regardless, but I'm trying to get inside their heads here and figure out what part of the puzzle you might be missing. Not to excuse anything, but to help you navigate the reality, whatever that reality is.
And beer isn't wine, so the prevalence of wine in the Bible doesn't address how people might feel about other alcohol.
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DW_a_mom wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
But maybe they are just giving you opportunities to mess up under their ever changing standards. I don't know. Just ... be sure you are making WISE choices, not just "I have a right to" choices. There is a difference.
It’s considered a sin in my church to judge other Christian’s by what they eat and drink and the church of Christ teachers that you are not supposed to let another christian judge you by what you and drink
That passage isn't designed to be used as shield for doing something you expect will anger someone. So my question continues to be whether or not you could have expected their reaction. I accept their reaction was terrible regardless, but I'm trying to get inside their heads here and figure out what part of the puzzle you might be missing. Not to excuse anything, but to help you navigate the reality, whatever that reality is.
And beer isn't wine, so the prevalence of wine in the Bible doesn't address how people might feel about other alcohol.
Well beeer is still alcohol and I did not expect their reaction the way it turned out given the fact that dad let sip beer at five or six years of age and let me have beer before I was twenty one which is legal in Texas under some circumstances well the church of Christ teaches that no Christian has a right to condemn another Christian for what. They may eat and drink my church teaches that Christian’s are free to eat and drink any food and beverage there is it was traditionally way more taboo in the church to control other Christian’s diet we consider diet to be a issue of Christian liberty it’s considered a grave to sin in the church of Christ to add anything to the Bible and the Bible did not say it’s a sin for Adult Christian’s to drink
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Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
But maybe they are just giving you opportunities to mess up under their ever changing standards. I don't know. Just ... be sure you are making WISE choices, not just "I have a right to" choices. There is a difference.
It’s considered a sin in my church to judge other Christian’s by what they eat and drink and the church of Christ teachers that you are not supposed to let another christian judge you by what you and drink
That passage isn't designed to be used as shield for doing something you expect will anger someone. So my question continues to be whether or not you could have expected their reaction. I accept their reaction was terrible regardless, but I'm trying to get inside their heads here and figure out what part of the puzzle you might be missing. Not to excuse anything, but to help you navigate the reality, whatever that reality is.
And beer isn't wine, so the prevalence of wine in the Bible doesn't address how people might feel about other alcohol.
Well beeer is still alcohol and I did not expect their reaction the way it turned out given the fact that dad let sip beer at five or six years of age and let me have beer before I was twenty one which is legal in Texas under some circumstances
I think it's time you blow your dad's mind and order Barley Wine on Sunday and see what he has to say about that!
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