Why Do Teachers Think They Know AS Without doing Homework

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I am sure that most of you have been through the education system no matter what part of the world you come from. I had to demand a meeting with my 12 year old son school as he only recently been diagnosis with AS. We were really getting places until the year head complaint that my son was asking to many questions and that I should nip it in the bud??? I tried to explain that this was part of AS so to speak that he needed to understand and then he needed to know that he really understood but to know avail he kept insisting that I should sort this out that my son not only ask to many questions but also could not wait for a reponse. Help?

Thanks

Annmaria

Sounds like you've noticed that school is awful. Look, it's awful for everyone. NTs come out of it damaged, too. But Aspies have it even worse, and that's bad because in this world Aspies have it harder and need to have everything just right to ever manage. Whereas NTs... and anyway, the ways the damage shows up are different, too. NTs come out of it still useful.

The whole thing should be abolished. In the meantime, avoid it for your own kids.

I failed most of my subjects in school because the teachers never achknowledged and helped me properly with my AS. And believe me, I tried my absolute hardest in my exams.

In fact, teachers should be the main priority of people to be aware of AS. Children are the future!!

I have come to the conclusion that many people become teachers not because they want to make a diffrence, but so that they can satisy their God complex. A teacher in a way is a lot like a dictator and I think this attracts many people to the teaching profession.

My problem is that the special needs coordinator who is suppose to help and understand is actually a dinasour that should be extinct has been in the school for 30 odd years doesnt have a clue but actually thinks that he has all the answer where do you move from this has anyhone else been in this position? Help?

PunkyKat I agree with you point of view they think they can satisy their God complex its a shame really. Maybe if they open their eyes up they wouldnt need a complex shame on them?

Can you homeschool?

Also, some of the best places are places that AREN'T explicitly doing anything for special-needs people. Like, I'm in high school and my school just treats everyone like an individual and barely standardizes anything. My teachers know about my diagnosis (it came up, there was no specific decision to tell them for educational reasons, it just came up in conversation) but that doesn't change anything. There's not the distinction between "this is normal" and "this is special needs." EVERYONE benefits from this. So maybe look into private schools-- but then again, those aren't necessarily going to be good either. And sometimes there's a culture of acceptance and it's run by wonderful staff except for one teacher, and that's the one your kid gets saddled with. Definitely, though, there are places, at least here, that can be good. Smaller might be better, but that's no guarantee. And you might find a gem of a teacher in a public school.

I dont want to homeschool or private I just want my son to have access to the supports available to him and then things will hopefully fall in place Less prejudice more access is what I am hoping for. I am blessed in a way I can afford to go private but feel that I dont need that extra burden if society is suppose to provide it. My family run or own business we work hard and put back into society what we take I feel that the biggest problem for parents is that no one LISTEN'S. MORE LISTENING LESS ASSUMPTION ! !! !!

If you want special treatment, you're not going to find it in the public school system. That system treats all kids the same, because it's cheaper and easier. I've seen several threads the past few weeks about people who had to fight major battles with an uncooperative school system.

If you have the means to pay for private school, I highly recommend it. The public school system isn't great for normal kids, and it's positively miserable for people with AS. On top of the monolithic, one size fits all approach to teaching, there's the hostile and largely unsupervised schoolyard environment, which is often a much worse problem than the educational shortcomings of the system.

Society doesn't owe you, or me, or anyone else anything. Yes, you pay taxes for the public schools but ultimately you have no say in how those schools treat your children because you're not going to stop paying that money if your kid's education is inadequate. In a private school, if you pull your kid, you don't have to pay them crap, so they have every reason to listen to you. Unless you plan on bringing a lawyer and a pile of signed doctor's assessments with you, don't expect the public schools to listen to you. It's for this reason that, if I was made dictator, I'd abolish the public schools, and instead use that money to give parents a grant for their child's education that worked more like grants for college.

I often think schools are lazy when they refuse accommodations to students. That's what my mother labeled my school as. If they can help special need students who have Down's syndrome or other visible disabilities, they sure can help students with invisible disabilities.

We have a law about giving kids the education they need, IDEA law we have. They have to accommodate kids.

Why bother? These people don't know what they're talking about, they want to declare themselves experts without doing any research, they don't really care about children's well-being... why do you want to try to make this work? What do you gain by this? Their attitude is poison even if you force them to agree to make accommodations.

Hi, I am a teacher in a private school in England, but I have worked in state schools also. I feel it totally comes down to the school. The school I work at now is not very good with special needs students and many teachers know nothing about AS which really saddens me. The only benefit at my school for AS students are the very small class sizes. I worked in a state school for 3 years though and they were amazing with special needs children and knew lots about AS. I think you need to find a new school and when you look round different schools ask them lots of questions about SEN and their attitude towards helping children on the spectrum. This is the only way to find a great school without home schooling. Good luck.

Hi Zur-Darkstar
I agree with what you said I am not looking for any special treatment I am looking for my son to be educated I think the problem is that we give up I know we have to put or children first but the cycle just continues its a placebo make you think that there is real support but actually there is nothing.

Everything looks great on paper but nothing is put into place I think we the parents have to fight for these changes if we just walk away and find alternatives the system keeps on failing. I am a determine person and dont take no's pretty good all this on top of raising a child with AS is very draining but I think we need to. My first priority of course is my child.

In our school (Iowa) they kept saying they were educated and experienced in Autism. I finally asked what that meant. Once a year the teachers are given a 2-3 hour presentation about Autism and any "new" things that have been discovered about Autism.
That is not educated to me. That may passed as informed but not educated. Experience of course meant there were 3 other students already at the school.
I finally had to except the fact I can't expect the school to know every thing that will help my son. I had to start being part of the solution by helping to find answers to the problem and things that the school could do.

We have had the exact same problem you are talking about and the school saying I had to correct it at home.
This is how I handled it.
I asked his counselor and doctor for ways to help when all the questions and verifying were causing disruption. We were also having the problem at home when I needed to be helping younger brother do homework or when I was on the phone.
I also look on the Internet to find things that are recommended. Weeded it all out and tried 2 different approaches with my son. The one that was easiest and seemed to work better I typed out and set up a meeting with those that wanted this dealt with.

I don't mind doing the leg work because it is important to me and I know the teachers do have a lot going on. My son isn't the only student.
I went back to school with what needed to be done. Started with the fact this is a trait and could not be solved with "a talk", something that happens through out the day and not just at school.
BUT since I am not at school and can not deal with it when it happens here is what was working for us at home and they should have the teacher do this when she is having trouble with all the questions.
and this is what works for us:
The questions start and wont stop. Have the child write down his question to be answered later.
Tell the child why the question can not be answered at this time. Keep it short and simple. "I must help your brother finish home work" "I must finish giving the rest of the class the directions for the assignment"
Then ask the child to write down his questions and you will answer them at an appropriate time. These times should be agreed upon and explained to the child before using this.
In middle school the teacher would meet with our son during the extra time at the end of lunch, during study hall, class work time, etc. Recess or class work time would be good for grade school.
Now that he is in High School he touches base with the teacher at the end of class and sits up a time. Study hall, lunch, before or after school.
If the questions are very urgent he may need to go to the resource room teacher, Guidance counselor, or office. This is decided by the teacher and not my son.

It takes time but as my son began to realize he couldn't get an answer right that second but he would still get an answer it really cut down on the problem.
The most important part is the teachers following through with answering the questions later.
Otherwise the child will not trust his answers will be met and will stop writing down the answers and go right back to interrupting class. This very thing happened to us. As long as his questions are addressed as promised he will use the system of writing it down.

The biggest thing I had to realize was why my son is so unique. The Autism spectrum is large. There is no way the teachers can be experts in all the different levels and aspects of Autism.
but I can help them find what my son needs.

Hi Brenda_D

Thanks for you response I wish my sons school or teachers would be accommodating like yours the problem I am having is for the school to listen and even consider that I might actually know what I am talking about. As I said the special needs coordinator has been teaching for 30yrs and seems to think that he knows all this makes it extremely difficult. I am a persistent person and I will keep at it but its just crazy that it has to become a fight in the first place.

Thanks again

...Maybe you should teach him to use the internet to find answers.