Managing disappointment when someone else succeeds

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05 Jul 2011, 9:41 pm

I'm sorry to even be posting this, because it represents such a huge turnaround that it really should be something we are all rejoicing in.

However, my son's friend, with whom he's had a somewhat spotty relationship over the past year - that has improved vastly after DS disclosed his diagnosis in the classroom - called him from vacation to share that he'd been able to do two things that my son desperately wants to do: purchase a particular nerf gun and shoot a machine gun. This child called long-distance twice to share this information (an amazing social success!)

Sadly, DS was angry. I think he managed not to be rude to the friend on the phone, I didn't hear all of it, but I'm pretty sure he was at least cold...he said something about what he's doing and shared some other news...but I'm certain he wasn't excited in the way his friend probably expected. He's also spent the day sulking and growling at us because "everybody else always gets to do what I want to do first!"

He's so upset that he can't talk about it. I'm not sure how to help him, and I also want to make sure he doesn't lose the social ground he's just gained. I understand that his perception is unique, and skewed towards himself...how do I help him see that he can be happy that someone else got something he likes and thought it was important to share it with him?



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05 Jul 2011, 9:57 pm

I understand the issue is with your son's jealousy, but I have to ask, why can't you get him that nerf gun and take him to shoot machine guns (there are places to do that in Arizona and Nevada)?

Why should everyone always get to do first, things he wants to do? Children with AS feel like they are excluded enough.

Anyway, you might point out to him the things that he got to do that others haven't had a chance to do yet, and wanted to do.



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05 Jul 2011, 10:49 pm

why dont you talk to the other parent and take both kids to play with nerf guns and the shooting range??? That way they are doing at the same time, socializing, and hopefully mending the relationship with some fun.


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05 Jul 2011, 11:20 pm

I want to shoot a machine gun! :cry:

But in all seriousness, I wouldn't worry too much about this. Young children being jealous of other people's fun is not unusual. I would just point out to him all the fun stuff he gets to do that his friend doesn't. Point out the cool toys he gets that his friend doesn't have. And most importantly, remind him (as often as it takes) that comparing himself to other people and getting frustrated is only going to make him miserable and there is no reason for him to make himself miserable.

Most likely, he will sulk a bit for a few days then get over it. It is a phase that all children go through and I don't think any extraordinary measures need to be taken (aside from perhaps some ice cream to brighten the mood).

If this does become a point of contention between him and his friend, then sit down and talk with your son about not letting pettiness ruin a relationship. You can point out that whether or not he got to fire the machine gun can't be changed. But what your son can change is how he reacts to the disappointment. He can choose to let it go and be happy for his friend, or he can be upset, sour, and jealous and ruin a friendship for nothing. Sometimes you have to let the small stuff go as it isn't worth ruining a relationship, and your son needs to learn that sooner rather than later. Consider this an excellent opportunity for your son to learn the value of friendship as being more important than his petty jealousy.

Plus, the good news is that your son's friend is not here to see him sulk. This gives your son a few days to get it out of his system prior to meeting up with his friend again.


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06 Jul 2011, 1:16 am

momsparky wrote:
However, my son's friend, with whom he's had a somewhat spotty relationship over the past year - that has improved vastly after DS disclosed his diagnosis in the classroom - called him from vacation to share that he'd been able to do two things that my son desperately wants to do: purchase a particular nerf gun and shoot a machine gun. This child called long-distance twice to share this information (an amazing social success!)

Even assuming the friend also desperately wanted to do those things, it doesn't strike me as more than a moderate social success, to be honest. Maybe it's an aspie point of view, but it doesn't seem to me that being seen as someone convenient to brag to is a big social win; it seems rather pointless. A true social success would be being invited to go along on, say, a machinegun shooting day trip - or inviting others to come along on one's own such trip.

Although to be honest, after a kid got killed in our region of the country recently firing a submachinegun at a gun show, I'm not sure it's something I'd let my kids do. I might consider buying one of these instead:

http://www.amazon.com/Nerf-N-Strike-Vul ... _title_toy



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06 Jul 2011, 8:02 am

psychohist wrote:
Even assuming the friend also desperately wanted to do those things, it doesn't strike me as more than a moderate social success, to be honest. Maybe it's an aspie point of view, but it doesn't seem to me that being seen as someone convenient to brag to is a big social win; it seems rather pointless. A true social success would be being invited to go along on, say, a machinegun shooting day trip - or inviting others to come along on one's own such trip.

Although to be honest, after a kid got killed in our region of the country recently firing a submachinegun at a gun show, I'm not sure it's something I'd let my kids do. I might consider buying one of these instead:


I'd go futher and say that I don't see this as a social success at all. It's just getting to do something that he wanted to do and then telling someone about it. Maybe the bragging wasn't even intentional. Coming across as bragging is not a social success anyway, it's a social faux pas. I told my mother in law about some activities that I'd been doing with my daughter. She saw it as boastful, yet, in my mind, I was just trying to make conversation with someone I had little in common with. I don't do jealousy, so that would never occur to me.

I also agree about the second comment, but that's a whole different issue.



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06 Jul 2011, 10:56 am

Tracker wrote:
If this does become a point of contention between him and his friend, then sit down and talk with your son about not letting pettiness ruin a relationship. You can point out that whether or not he got to fire the machine gun can't be changed. But what your son can change is how he reacts to the disappointment. He can choose to let it go and be happy for his friend, or he can be upset, sour, and jealous and ruin a friendship for nothing. Sometimes you have to let the small stuff go as it isn't worth ruining a relationship, and your son needs to learn that sooner rather than later. Consider this an excellent opportunity for your son to learn the value of friendship as being more important than his petty jealousy.

Plus, the good news is that your son's friend is not here to see him sulk. This gives your son a few days to get it out of his system prior to meeting up with his friend again.


Thank you, Tracker - this is my worry, as DS is capable of hanging on to a hurt for...well, there are some grudges he's kept since he was a toddler (mostly towards places and not people, fortunately.) I'm struggling to find a way to express what you're saying so he can understand it, as his feelings of resentment have in fact become a barrier to friendships in the past.

I am grateful that this happened over the phone - if the other boy had seen his face, even as understanding as he's been, I don't know that things would be so easy to repair. (Note: I do not think this other boy was gloating or otherwise trying to make my son feel bad; he was sharing an experience he thought my son might appreciate.)