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19 Sep 2006, 7:55 pm

I am working with a program called SEEC. Special Education Early Childhood. Any ways we have alittle boy who has been diagnosed Autistic......you all would just fall in love with this little one. Anyways, he is 3 years old and toilet trained, but he will not wipe his bottom nor allow anyone else to. He says it's gross. I told him he might get poop on his underware, or get a rash. But he is adament, "It's Gross" he says. Any advice on teaching him proper hygiene in this area. He's a very sweet natured little boy who loves to please. He is speech delayed and we were told he has quite a temper. We've also been told he has come along way from last year as he use to be very difficult to work with, he was in a different program then . Would like opinions please.



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19 Sep 2006, 10:34 pm

It is unfortunate that we do not have Biddas(those hoses connected to the toilet that rinse your privates.)in America...they can be ordered on line but wouldnt solve the problem as he gets older since no one else will have them...I work with an adult client with DD and we have this same issue with him but havent resolved it....he just refuses but wont say why.Ruling out possibility of sexual abuse...perhaps you could allow him to wear a latex glove(I do ,when working with my clients...because poo is gross.)If he has problems with physical dexterity may have gotten poo on him while trying to wipe...a pretty uncomfortable feeling.


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20 Sep 2006, 12:38 am

3 and he's pooping in the toilet, wow. That milestone was when my son was 5. And as his mother, I got tough and said, "If you don't wipe yourself, then I'm gonna do it." And I'd do it. Diets affect bowels too and we experienced a lot of that sticky, dry stuff that you had to scrub off. And it hurts after a while. Baths help or showering. We still use flushable wipes.
But with a non-relative, I don't know if you can force it. For my son, it had to be done and he finally "took matters into his own hands". Which is the goal.



20 Sep 2006, 12:53 am

i've never heard of a bidda but i have heard of a bidet.



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20 Sep 2006, 1:44 am

Ok smarty Jutty pants...I tried my spell check but It doesnt speak toilet....


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20 Sep 2006, 2:05 am

I was older than 3 and still had wipping problems. I never seemed to do a good enough
job. I even got into the habit of sticking a wad of toliet paper in my underwear like a male tampoon.

I think finaliy one day my mom got my older brother to show me how to wipe my rear.
Not that I did not uderstand I guess it just shocked me into doing it better.

I can see why the kid would be shy about someone else wipping for them and I can
see how a young person or a person with dyspraxia would have problem for years to.



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20 Sep 2006, 6:11 am

:lol: I thought "bidda" was one of those 'Strain colloquialisms or somethin'.


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20 Sep 2006, 1:47 pm

My nt 7 year old still has problems from time to time with "cleaning up".

Have you looked into those cushy "baby wipes" that are made for toddlers? They pop up like tissues, and they are bigger. Maybe showing him the poo left in his pants would motivate him to get it off as soon as possible.

Our own ds would only go at home and then would only clean off using the hand held shower. His personal shower for quite some time. LOL


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26 Sep 2006, 10:01 pm

i refused to wipe my own butt until i was half-way through kindergarten, at 5 or 6. I made my mom do it though. my reasoning was that it was gross and the smell made me gag so i couldn't stand to turn my head to check if i had gotten it. Sorry for being graphic but it could be a sensory thing.



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27 Sep 2006, 9:19 pm

just a thought.....i went through a period of time when i was little when i didn't wipe so good~i was abused by my grandfather.....lack of personal care can *sometimes* be an indication of abuse.



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01 Oct 2006, 6:59 pm

my son still can not wipe or even remembers to wipe and he is 9. he can't remember to flush the tiolet. so we know he does not flush.. we have tried to tell him often.. but its like talking to a wall.. i tell him other kids will get wind of this (sorry poor choice of words) and the oder will make his peers not want to be friendly with him. but its useless because he never remebers. we are lucky that his bowel movements are hard and not very sloppy.. being that he is on ADD meds one of the side effects is stools are hard.. therfore it requires less work to wipe.. if I could get mine to understand then I would be more than happy to help you out.. its one thing that does not seem to improve for my son.. he seems to be in the clueless world of toilet time..



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02 Oct 2006, 8:04 am

Aspiesmom: My ds AND dh report the wipes are "slimy" so ds won't use them.

Ryansjoy: luckily we don't have that problem, but we do have other issues of forgetfulness. Since most of our kids are somewhat routine-oriented, I've used that to our advantage by always making him come back and do it. Eventually, it becomes part of his routine.



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02 Oct 2006, 11:09 am

Ryansjoy.........I am 42 and have had a life long problem with flushing the toilet....as with most things I hate to do but know I should(because it bothers people I live with and is considered rude)I do try and remember to flush the toilet but the sound really bothers me....I dont know if it is AS or if I was Potty trained by being held over the toilet when I soiled myself during potty training(I heard some people used this barbaric practice in the 60's)The sound and rushing water of flushing actually can make my heart beat faster and I have to flush and then run out of bathroom....It is less of a broblem after a BM(because I dont want people to see it!! !! !)but if I just urinate,I sometimes wait several times before I flush......I like to think of it as ...conserving natural resources...lol.....As far as the wipping thing....it is almost compulsive for me...I will wipe until it is totally clean...poo is icky....but I can understand why some kids dont like to use wet wipes....they do feel slimmy


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02 Oct 2006, 11:18 am

Some families practice not flushing for pee at night because of the noise. I know the sound of public toilets flushing bothers my son, but he will do it and then run and/or cover his ears.