Q: ADHD and Aspie kids.

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I have two sons with ADHD and Asperger.

They are 6 and 8. Both have Concerta, the older a 36mg dose, the younger 18mg. Both have the usual appetite loss so we have to force them to eat, which we was warned about and is very aware of. Since they're allergic to foods (it would be a too long list) it's absolutely nessecary that they eat. They're ordinated extra fat even because they due to their diet don't get enough fat. So they use calogen (you can call it liquid fat) to get enough.

Curiosity: Since one of them got a allergy reaction of calogen because of highly rafinated peanut oil we had to supply the batch and the bottle causing the reaction back to supplier. Entire batch was recalled due to refination of the peanut oil had failed and there was traces of proteines. Shot adrenaline, cortisone, two nights in hospital intensive care.

They have bettered themselves on social behaviour, since both we parents (not living together but with equal care for the kids and living 5 minutes walking from eachother) but they still get meltdowns in schooltime.

Is it common that social escape by running away is a way to process things? I did that a lot when I was a kid (I'm 36) just to be able to get a grip on myself and analyze the situation. I could walk around for three hours in a forest and then walk straight home, and that made my parents call for both helicopter searches and so on until they figured out I knew exactly where I where. It's the same with my sons. They have built-in GPS. I did that about 4-5 years old, and I recognize the pattern on them.

When I think of it, all my three kids has their own strategies to do the same thing, instead of causing a conflict, they avoid it for a short time to sort things out in the head, then go back to the point where the disturbance occured.

My daughter locks herself into the toilet in school for a short while, and I wonder if a set of ear protections would help her to calm down faster. Her teacher has explicit and written orders allowing her to open the toilet door.

My mid son goes to two specific spots (after a talk with him, giving him logical reason why that is good) and just sits down and is completely unaware of the environment then he can go back into real world.

My youngest, does almost exactly the same as my mid'st but he want to lie down on ground and watch the sky for a couple of minutes.

btw I'm dyslectic, so please read between the lines

This sounds very familiar to what my family does. My son who is most affected, has high-functioning autism and ADHD, and takes Medadate, doesn't NEED to get away, but I can tell that he would like to. He does well socially, but he doesn't like a lot of noise or chaos. He would run away if that were possible at school, but since it's not, he copes somehow.

my aspie son does feel the need to get away when things are too intense for him. he's even gone to the extreme of jogging for 6 miles to get home from someone's house. my adhd daughter does not ever seem to feel the need to get away~even when she really should isolate herself ( because she's too overstimulated).

I think that's the natural thing to feel. I do it too.

It's just that I needed some feedback on things me and my ex have discussed about going away for a moment to sort things out and understand why I and my kids do about the same way. I can "pass out" for a minute or two and be completely out of this world, then come back and continue where I was before I started the lock. My ex and the mother of my three children has actually slapped my face without reaction when I get "stalled". Same thing for two of my kids.

My daughter has to get a calm minute without interrupting things in a quiet and solitaire environment, it can be a minute or 2, just like me, then she's back on the spot she left outside world for inside world, and continues where she was. That's why I was thinking of ear protection gear to keep out the sounds so she maybe can go back into real life faster. Btw, since she's female her ADHD/DAMP is unmedicated. She works OK without medication, a bit clumsy though (heh). She is playing socccer with 3y older boys and you can see the goal'ie dodge when she takes out her anger on a ball. The ball is her frustration medium. She's been climbing also since age 4 (I hate sports, except fishing) and soon the leaders of climbing noticed she could hang on one (!) finger and turn around talking hanging in the air to ask where the next stone she should use was, except that it never crossed her mind to look for herself. She was offered outside climbing but lost interest and got into soccer. it's a seasonal behaviour I thiink.

My mid son is a game-a-holic. And has a math skill equivalent of a 6th grader. He's a absolute totally perfect aimbot in games like Quake, Halo, etc. I reached the 7th grade in the EU clans, and competed in those games, but he can easily rail me, grapplinghooking dodging random ways. Unreal Tournament and a sniper rifle and I loose interest playing with him because i get a head shot all the time from him. Don't know how he can be so precise, we both have the utterly unprecise way of writing. Single shot wheapons when you only get one shot in FPS games is his favourite choise of wheapon.

My youngest son is a fan of gravity. He can watch things fall and roll for hours. He also is the one according to my ex, the one most like me according to my ex. We simply don't cope with eachother. When he is in the same room as me, it's a 24/7 struggle between wills. And I don't bend rules a fraction of an inch. Set rule is set. This can sometimes drive my ex crazy because she can use three levels of things to care of, Must do, Bend Over and accept, Important but not so important it's worth a struggle.

I can't do that. It's completely binary for me. Either they do right or wrong.

Merry Christmas!

Sounds like inattentive ADD. Yeah I'm glad your kids are getting meds. I did not and
I did not get much school work done.

I guess liquid fat would be called vegetable oil in the US. I can remember mixing it with powder milk in my earily 20's to gain weight(I'm 36 also).

I do not have kids but my 3 & 4 year old nephews are real hard to feed(they do not
take meds but might have to in the future). I'm trying to get them to eat more omega-3 fats. My 4 yeard old nephew can now swallow 1 gram fish oil gel caps.

Omega 3 can realy help. It has helped me, and two of my kids. One kid is on test for the fish oil, since he's allergic to fish and the proteines.

I've attended a parental authism education today. I can say the three hours was worth every minute and to meet 20 other parents was mildy a overwhelming feeling. There's several of the parents giving extra fat, preferably containing omega-3.

For some reason I can't describe I started to eat omega-3 capsules when I separated, and since then, as I can see it, straightening up my thoughts. I don't get the amount of lockups I used to have.

After two months now of increasing contamination fish with my youngest son, we finally have a fish oil capsule we feel sure of, so he's on 2x500mg and school has noticed increased awareness. Just as I, he's more "IRL" and not having so many meltdowns. We can even be in the same room with mutual acceptance among us on the rules.

This was the first time I've been attending education on authism, so I'll probably not sleep tonight but google like hell to learn more, both about myself, and my kids.