Yes you can take away an x-box from a 10 yr old aspie

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08 Dec 2014, 6:16 pm

This post is to my fellow worried Moms and Dads of children of Aspergers.
My 10 year old son found what he thought was peace while playing on his x-box all day, every day. I was happy that he had found something he enjoyed so much, that is until he didn't enjoy it so much. What I mean is this; he played so long and so hard that his body hurt, his mind became frustrated at loosing. He played online, so that was nice to see him interacting with other kids his age, but sometimes there were older kids with bad language and bad attitudes. That, I didn't like.
I noticed that the x-box was becoming more of a problem than a help, but I still didn't have the guts to take it away or even try to minimize the time he spent playing call of duty or minecraft and cause that hour long, day long, or week long melt down that according to him nothing but having the x-box back would cure.
That is until I opened my credit card statement and found $60.00 worth of charges from, you guessed it, the x-box. I went into straight parenting mode, not (Asperger aware/sensitive) parenting. I didn't get any push back what so ever when I banned his use of the game until I saw fit to reinstate playing privileges. Understand that his need for a schedule is paramount, but he believed my statement of "if you push me for a time when I will give your x-box back, you won't like the answer, so leave me be until I figure this out'
There was no melt down, no argument, no insistence of returning it, no spiteful behavior at all.
So what has he been doing with his time you ask? He has played his violin, played legos, played with his brother, washed dishes, walked the dog, taken his baths, cleaned his room, made his bed, watched tv with the rest of the family, went with us and helped pick out our Christmas tree, attended an Aunts family dinner. These are all things that he was missing out on when his mind was buried in the x-box. This is not what I expected at all. I am super happy and excited for things to come.
So, parents, what I am trying to say is, yes you can pry them away from their precious game system and they will actually find many other things to do.
Good luck and Happy Holidays to all.



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08 Dec 2014, 6:32 pm

Good job!
I support your use of straight parenting approach to ban xbox until you see fit to reinstate privileges.
It is great that your son is doing many other things now.


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08 Dec 2014, 6:38 pm

Great results!

The kids on the Xbox are just going to call your son bad names when he messes up in the game anyway.



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08 Dec 2014, 6:46 pm

I know this isn't the point of your post, but did you find out what the charge was for? If you purchased the Xbox Live subscription with your credit card then it will automatically renew when the subscription is up, with the only way to prevent this being to call Microsoft and cancel it. The cost for an annual subscription is $60. So it may not be entirely his fault.



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08 Dec 2014, 6:51 pm

Well good it had positive results, but as the other poster suggested it might not be something he did...in which case even if he's not showing it he may feel he got punished for no reason, if he's even seeing it as a punishment. I suppose if I had a kid I wouldn't want to entirely ban them playing video games on a console unless it really seemed a fair punishment, if they where spending most of their time on it then I imagine I'd want to put some limit on it...but I don't have kids so I don't know.


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08 Dec 2014, 7:08 pm

Do find out the nature and origin of the charge (so you can be aware if it was innocent, or explain it to the kid if it wasn't).

Other than that, "You go, Parent!!"

"Autism/Asperger's aware/sensitive" doesn't mean you have to let them be totally autocratic and/or completely kiss their little AssBurgers. That usually doesn't end well.

We CAN learn, and we DO learn. Sometimes it's just messier, louder, tearier, slower, and requiring of an unconventional approach.


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08 Dec 2014, 9:31 pm

Minecraft is a great game for kids. Call of Duty is for adults.
My husband and I are both avid gamers, and our son (nine) won't be going anywhere near that game for many years. We don't even allow him to be in the same room when we play "M" rated games, just as we don't take him to see "R" rated movies.



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08 Dec 2014, 9:38 pm

JitakuKeibiinB wrote:
I know this isn't the point of your post, but did you find out what the charge was for? If you purchased the Xbox Live subscription with your credit card then it will automatically renew when the subscription is up, with the only way to prevent this being to call Microsoft and cancel it. The cost for an annual subscription is $60. So it may not be entirely his fault.


I have made a similar mistake before. However, my son pointed it out to me right away. Not what the charge was really for, but the truth that he did not make any charges.


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09 Dec 2014, 7:01 am

YippySkippy wrote:
Minecraft is a great game for kids. Call of Duty is for adults.
My husband and I are both avid gamers, and our son (nine) won't be going anywhere near that game for many years. We don't even allow him to be in the same room when we play "M" rated games, just as we don't take him to see "R" rated movies.

This.

I think, generally, ratings on games are higher than they need to be, certainly relative to films. Games like Call Of Duty aren't really as distressing as a 15 rated film, let alone an 18 rated one, because they don't involve real people or even the same degree of violence. Nine or ten is too young, but a thirteen year old could certainly play them. Bioshock, on the other hand...

What I'm saying is that age ratings are important, but the system currently isn't designed very well so adults cannot tell a truly horrifying game (Bioshock) from one with sugar-coated depictions of violence that would be acceptable in a 12A film (CoD4).



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09 Dec 2014, 10:02 am

You can take an xbox away, but can you find a happy medium where he gets to play sometimes but not excessively? I think striking that balance is a harder challenge...



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09 Dec 2014, 1:24 pm

Do keep us informed of your progress here. My son is 13 and on computer gaming constantly. Not only is he gaming but searching information, especially political news. I think this increases his anxiety and I am contemplating ways to change this.



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09 Dec 2014, 2:03 pm

justpassinthru wrote:
This post is to my fellow worried Moms and Dads of children of Aspergers.
My 10 year old son found what he thought was peace while playing on his x-box all day, every day. I was happy that he had found something he enjoyed so much, that is until he didn't enjoy it so much. What I mean is this; he played so long and so hard that his body hurt, his mind became frustrated at loosing. He played online, so that was nice to see him interacting with other kids his age, but sometimes there were older kids with bad language and bad attitudes. That, I didn't like.
I noticed that the x-box was becoming more of a problem than a help, but I still didn't have the guts to take it away or even try to minimize the time he spent playing call of duty or minecraft and cause that hour long, day long, or week long melt down that according to him nothing but having the x-box back would cure.
That is until I opened my credit card statement and found $60.00 worth of charges from, you guessed it, the x-box. I went into straight parenting mode, not (Asperger aware/sensitive) parenting. I didn't get any push back what so ever when I banned his use of the game until I saw fit to reinstate playing privileges. Understand that his need for a schedule is paramount, but he believed my statement of "if you push me for a time when I will give your x-box back, you won't like the answer, so leave me be until I figure this out'
There was no melt down, no argument, no insistence of returning it, no spiteful behavior at all.
So what has he been doing with his time you ask? He has played his violin, played legos, played with his brother, washed dishes, walked the dog, taken his baths, cleaned his room, made his bed, watched tv with the rest of the family, went with us and helped pick out our Christmas tree, attended an Aunts family dinner. These are all things that he was missing out on when his mind was buried in the x-box. This is not what I expected at all. I am super happy and excited for things to come.
So, parents, what I am trying to say is, yes you can pry them away from their precious game system and they will actually find many other things to do.
Good luck and Happy Holidays to all.



Good. It has always bugged me whenever I would read here how it's "abusive" to take away an aspie's interest for a punishment or try and minimize it. My mom used to take away my Barbies because she found that was the only thing that worked to keep me under control (she only took them away when I was naughty) and it scared my brothers when they saw all my dolls on top of the fridge so they got the idea that if they are naughty, Mom takes their toys away and they will keep losing them until they have none to play with and my mom let them have that idea than correcting them. She figured if they thought that, then they would be better behaved.

I never had any meltdowns either or broke things or put holes in walls to get them back like some aspies have and I bet if I had been exposed to that behavior as a child, I would have started doing it myself because I always copied people and would find short cuts to my problems. I even tried having ODD in high school to get my way because I knew someone with it and he always was in control because his mom feared him so I tried to be abusive myself and threatening and then I wondered why it wasn't working so I thought I had to try harder only to be told I would be hospitalized if I hit her again. It was very hard for my whole family.

But then when I got to around third grade, taking my dolls away quit working because I had learned by then to find other things to do to pass time and my mom then had to find another consequence.


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09 Dec 2014, 2:08 pm

Even if your son may not have made the charge, I still think taking it away was good because it was consuming his life and controlling him. You want your child to be in control of his interests, not have them control him. But when he gets it back, you can still minimize it by limiting how long he can play it for and when so he learns to control his interests and not have them control him. I do say about us aspies we want to be in control of our interests, not have them control us.


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09 Dec 2014, 2:11 pm

I liked to read all the time as a kid....parents never saw it fit to take away that activity as punishment :twisted:

But then I wasn't really particularly bad behaved, for a long time I was kind of afraid to break a lot of rules even very small ones even if it was more likely than not i would get caught so yeah. I did get grounded from t.v and computer a few times as an adolecent and aside from that was limited to like an hour a day.


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09 Dec 2014, 2:46 pm

That was me, too-- always with the nose in the book. They never saw fit to take it away...

...and, looking back, perhaps they were a bit overly indulgent. Even of something as "innocent" and "constructive" as reading. A few less books, and a few more experiences, might have made Jill a less dull girl.

At the same time, I kept my grades up and did my chores and did not steal books or steal money to buy books. Had I done that, I somehow imagine that my reading time would have been seriously curtailed.

In the real world (and little Aspies do, in fact, inhabit the real world), abusing a privilege (whether it's unauthorized charges or use that more closely resembles addiction) results in losing the privilege.

It's not good for anyone to swim in something to the point of drowning in it. And there's a bit of a line between "accommodation and acceptance" and "ass-kissing." Asperger's doesn't mean that you have to leave them to their own little world, of their own unrestricted choosing, every free moment.

I've got some ADHD kids; I'm sorely tempted to make the gaming devices disappear. Not because indiscretions have been committed, but simply because they're missing out on the rest of what life has to offer.

My only sticking point is that it DOES seem disrespectful...

...especially when one of those ADHD "kids" is the XXL model who earned the paycheck that bought not only the game and the system it's running on, but the TV set we're viewing it on, the electric we're running it with, and a significant percentage of the living room we're playing it in. :? :lol: :roll: :wink: :wink:

Of course, if the game systems were to disappear, more activity would be had and less snack food eaten. Weight would be lost. And my "big ADHD kid" might get more time in which to enjoy what life has to offer...

The absence of any accommodation is self defeating and unkind (and possibly a form of abuse).

OTOH, entirely too much accommodation is self defeating and unkind (and possibly a form of neglect).


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09 Dec 2014, 3:38 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
I liked to read all the time as a kid....parents never saw it fit to take away that activity as punishment :twisted:

But then I wasn't really particularly bad behaved, for a long time I was kind of afraid to break a lot of rules even very small ones even if it was more likely than not i would get caught so yeah. I did get grounded from t.v and computer a few times as an adolecent and aside from that was limited to like an hour a day.



Some kids are more behaved than others they don't need any consequences. Some can just be talked to about their behavior and how it's unacceptable and won't be tolerated and bam they don't do it again.

I was a kid who was always getting into trouble and thinking rules didn't apply because Mom wasn't there or just doing things because I didn't know about any consequences and thinking it's okay to do just as long as there are no consequences. My mom learned that when i was a little kid and learned she had to make a big deal out of things or else it would be hard to get me to not do it next time and I would have been confused because I didn't get in trouble for it before but did the second time.

My three year old son just ruined one of our audio cassette tapes and I didn't make a big deal out of it because those things are crap anyway and obsolete and I didn't care about that Christmas album but if that were me, oh boy, my mom would have had to make a big deal about it or I would have thought it was okay behavior.


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