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LisaLaughs
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30 Jan 2020, 6:32 pm

Hello all,

Thank you in advance for any information you may have to share.

My daughter, 17, has high functioning Autism, intermittent explosive disorder, major depressive disorder and, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. She is currently in a short term lock down psychiatric facility. Because she is frequently suicidal and occasionally homicidal (she's never harmed anyone but herself but she has threatened to harm others; it is hard for me to believe she would actually do anything to harm someone), her treatment team is recommending she be placed in a locked residential treatment facility.

We live in SoCal, and the one locked facility here has declined to take her. I am in desperate need of recommendations.

The school district may be providing funding, if not, these places are covered by our insurance:

1. Willow Springs, Reno, NV

2. Shodair Childrens’, Helena, MT

3. Eastern Idaho Regional Medical Center, Idaho Falls, IH

Any feedback on these places is especially helpful.

Thank you,

Lisa



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30 Jan 2020, 7:28 pm

Actually, the place in Idaho is Teton Peaks Residential Center.



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30 Jan 2020, 8:40 pm

I am writing this post to try and offer what understanding I can, then follow that up with some observations, questions and a suggestion, which I hope may be of help.

Background
I'm sorry things came to a pass where you find a need for this course of action.

I'll decline to judge your desire to find a facility for someone diagnosed high functioning, after all I don't really know your circumstances.

I do hope someone can come in and address the heart of your question about those facilities, though the subject matter is more specific than may be known to the average user such as myself.

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I notice you describing that a number of diagnoses have been issued, seemingly by psychiatrists. There appear to be ongoing matters of concern, to the point where residential treatment solutions seem attractive. This makes me suspect that your daughter is very much in the grip of a medical model approach to what's ailing her, rather than a social model approach.

Do the psychiatrists who have been treating your daughter have any notion that stimming can be a calming an centering part of life on the spectrum, rather than something to be suppressed so your daughter can be "cured"?

Do these psychiatrists take much time to point out that her experience and her way of being are valid, and that many of the negative aspects of people's experience on the spectrum actually come from the way their difference is treated by the neurotypicals around them?

Or, is their approach wholly centered on the ways in which your daughter's thoughts and self are abnormal, and in need of correction?

If so, I'd humbly submit for your consideration, that any ineffectiveness of their efforts to date is explainable by the idea that they have missed the heart of the matter.

I'm behind the great firewall right now, so I can't search youtube from here. I recommend finding Nathan Selove, and watching his videos on the subject of medical model vs social model of disability.

I wish your daughter could have another chance, with a clinical psychologist whose practice specializes in autism.

Hoping this helps.



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30 Jan 2020, 11:52 pm

Not sure this applies to every state, but where I used to live and work in State government, all residential facilities were regularly inspected and the entire reports were posted online. So you could go look at what issues were identified and get a feel for the facility that way. Check each state's Health Department website maybe?

But I would also look into whether the facilities have staff and programs tailored to autistic people. Some standard practices or activities may be overwhelming or not helpful, and I think you'd want a facility that understands and accommodates that.

And BIG red flag if a facility doesn't allow unscheduled visits from family. (Visiting hours is one thing; I'm talking if you have to call ahead and make an appointment.)

This sounds like a really hard situation. I will be praying for you to have wisdom and peace about the decision, if that's okay with you.


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31 Jan 2020, 6:41 pm

I am so sorry you are in such a difficult situation, and before I contribute to this discussion I want to make it clear that I cannot and will not judge your decisions or choices. I know how hard they are to make, what a struggle the process is, and that long run all us parents really have are our own gut instincts.

That said, I unfortunately feel the need to complicate your decision making process. In the roughly 15 years I've been posting on ASD boards in connection with my son's diagnosis, I cannot remember EVER hearing of a residential treatment situation that the ASD individual being treated found helpful. Realize this isn't a scientific sample, it is just who I've happened to read on a message board that advocates for a certain perspective on ASD. From what I've read, residential treatment for ASD individuals most often has lead to a vicious cycle of excessive stress, over medication, complicating side effects, and so forth. Treatment facilities are often filled with sensory complications, stressful change, and a mindset that does not accommodate the type of logic most ASD brains seem to need. These aren't small challenges to someone with ASD; they can be literally painful, and people do not get better while every fiber of their being feels it is in pain.

Facing mental health issues that could benefit from residential treatment while being ASD can put a family between a rock and a hard place. Teenagers seem to be facing a mental health crisis in the US, and many NT teens HAVE found residential treatment to be life saving. Figuring out which side of the equation will determine your daughter's experience seems like an impossible task.

If this was my daughter, and note that my NT daughter did very much struggle with mental health issues and thoughts of self-harm at the same age as your daughter, I would listen VERY carefully to what my child had to say on the matter. Give her all the information and let HER tell you what she does or does not want to try, and why. I never enrolled my daughter in residential treatment and she did get better (what worked for her was testing out of high school and having no obligations of any sort for as long as she needed). But, oh my, it was such a struggle for so long. I couldn't get that child out of bed, and when she was up it was often for 24 hour stretches. Those were the hours that scared me to death; when she was asleep at least I knew she couldn't self harm.

Knowing what to do in these types of situations feels impossible. It is even worse if they are refusing to talk to you (as my daughter pretty much was). But after what my family went through I wouldn't discount the possibility that what your child may need most is to feel heard, loved, and wanted in whatever form she wishes to provide. If you have to take off work to sit in your home with her just to be there if something happens, while expecting nothing at all from your daughter and making no demands on her, I would say do it. Pulling back and giving space while providing a presence should she wish to access it is very, very hard to do - it seems to go against all our instincts as parents - ... but also something that really can help.

Long run, I can't say I got much from the medical profession for either my ASD son or my NT daughter with mental health issues. My son's ASD was picked up by the school, not a doctor, and the special education services were able to meet his needs. My daughter did see a therapist she liked, and had one meeting with a psychiatrist to get more of a diagnosis (and medication she claimed to want but rapidly stopped taking), but a lot more got accomplished by reading the signals and testing things out. No one knows your child better than you. No one. You take in all the professional input but understand that they don't have all the pieces, and their training is to find medical solutions, when sometimes a social solution (as a previous poster mentioned) would actually be better. It was soooo hard. It was always on me; my husband believes in passing things over to the professionals, but my kids were resistant and I'm glad I eventually learned to listen to really HEAR them and use that to drive my decisions.

I should note that I did cheat a little with my daughter. I found a diary and I read it. I finally could understand what I was dealing with. It completely broke my heart but even painful information can be used as a key. I needed a key, and I used it very carefully. My daughter will NEVER know that I read it.

Sorry that I was zero help in answering your question. You may have already been through all this process and here I go mucking it up ...

Also, if you have to go outside your insurance to find what is truly most suitable, I hope you are able to consider it. Our insurance has paid for almost nothing of what our kids have needed. I gave up, to be honest. It's hard enough to find the right people to work with, much less ones you trust who also are covered. The insurance world isn't out to help people thrive, it just isn't. It is only designed to keep people alive. That isn't enough with tricky issues. We've given up a lot to do the best we can by our kids, and they appreciate it.

I wish you the best as you try to sort things out in this painful and difficult time.


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31 Jan 2020, 8:47 pm

To follow up on what DW said, I personally would find a roommate, no quiet, private space to retreat to, mandatory group activities, and crowded places (cafeteria for example) very stressful.

I briefly considered checking myself in somewhere once during a very stressful burnout, and decided against it because the places that seemed calm and flexible about required activities wouldn't have been in my price range.


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03 Feb 2020, 3:54 pm

Thank you to everyone who posted replies. I should have been more specific.

Putting my daughter in a residential home is not something I want to do, it's something I have to do to keep her out of a Juvenile Detention Hall, where, within 16 hours of arriving, she became so distraught she tried to kill herself using her bare hands.

Why was she there? She had an episode at school and threatened to kill other students. Although she has no access to firearms, she had a secret Instagram account and messaged someone with photos of himself with firearms and asked to use one. She is currently charged with planning a terrorist act (I forget the correct term). The court is choosing to view this as a mental health issue but has specified that she be placed in a locked residential treatment facility. Due to the lack of facilities in state (CA) I have gotten permission since my first post on here to place her in a facility that has security protocols in place, while not qualifying as a locked facility.

In truth, my daughter has never hurt anyone but herself. She just got so frustrated with being ignored at school she snapped.

I'm also concerned that she will commit suicide if I bring her home. We live on the fifth floor with a sliding door leading onto a balcony. I'm a single parent with no family to help watch over her. She is a tiny slip of a girl yet freakishly strong when agitated. From that perspective, a residential treatment center is a way of keeping her alive until she is stabilized.

I'm left with making the best of a bad situation. The only thing I can do right now is get her to the best (least damaging) facility I can find and lobby to get the court comfortable with me taking her home as soon as safely possible.

So, any suggestions for secure or locked residential treatment centers that are least likely to be detrimental to her physical and mental health in California and near-ish states are appreciated.

Thank you for taking the time to read this,

Lisa



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04 Feb 2020, 4:52 pm

I wish I knew of decent ones for you. The whole situation is awful. So sorry you and your daughter have to go through all this.


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04 Feb 2020, 7:15 pm

Dear Lisa - I'm so sorry to hear what you and your daughter are going through. Both I and my daughter have worked with young adults in your daughter's position. Your daughter was clearly not coping in that particular environment, and I'm wondering if other alternatives for her education were considered prior to this occurring? I say this, having removed one of my three Aspie children(now adults) from school in order to preserve his mental health and restore him to better health as he was regressing. I also needed to change schools for both my elder two children after we moved from Australia to England after they were being harmed. I understand that what's happened has already happened, but in order to stabilize your daughter and maintain stability, are there any plans for her future education/life that would take into consideration where she might cope best? Again, very sorry to hear what you're both going through, and my heart goes out to you. Hope you're being supported there via family and services. xx