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01 Jan 2011, 11:43 am

Gamebryo is an old engine - I think it worked well for Oblivion and Fallout 3, but was simply an iteration of the same engine used in Morrowind.

I am looking forward to this. :)



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01 Jan 2011, 10:18 pm

Excited?

Dude, I jerk off to the teaser trailer daily. ;)



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13 Jan 2011, 12:29 am

Oblivion is one the best games ever. Guess what? I know two secret methods on how to duplicate items. One of those methods won't work if you have the "Game of the year" edition. If you know already, PM me and I'll explain.



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13 Jan 2011, 1:48 am

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:? acquired a copy of morrowind last night, got maybe 5 mins into it and was quite disappointed.

oblivion is the go, much more player (and eyeball) friendly. cant wait to see how much the graphics etc improve for the new game! 8O


Thing about the PC version of morrowind is that you can mod it improving everything from the combat to the graphics themselves as seen below in this video.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NX-MvnYUEs[/youtube]

and for those wondering what the game will look like on the new engine (taken from the February edition of game informer) huh after watching it all the way through they didn't include the pic of the NPC girl that actually looked human, compared to oblivion models,:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqZTgv68iyc[/youtube]


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16 Jan 2011, 12:12 pm

darkstone100 wrote:

and for those wondering what the game will look like on the new engine (taken from the February edition of game informer) huh after watching it all the way through they didn't include the pic of the NPC girl that actually looked human, compared to oblivion models,:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqZTgv68iyc[/youtube]

What I wonder is if my brand new computer is able to handle it. :? Race for graphics as become insane...


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16 Jan 2011, 6:26 pm

If you have to ask whether your GAMING (not HP or etc) computer can play a new game, expect no more than medium settings and no AA or AF. If you have to ask and you've never spent $300 on a graphics card don't even expect it to be playable :lol:

Graphics war hasn't been that intense at all lately really. Between the original Far Cry and Crysis is where MOST of the battle took place (2004-2007). Back when HDR was hot s**t and the idea of running HDR WITH antialiasing was just starting to become a reality. After the Geforce 88XX series really nothing has been THAAAAAT competitive or evolutionary. The whole geforce 9XXX series was just rebranded 8XXX series, like seriously an entire generation of video cards with NO significant differences from their predecessors...you know the battle is pretty much stagnant when that occurs. After all between 4XXX and 8XXX that has NEVER happened before


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16 Jan 2011, 7:16 pm

Has there been any game other than Far Cry or Crysis that has demanded $300 video cards in the past several years? I doubt that Skyrim will require that much horsepower.



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17 Jan 2011, 11:53 pm

How can you doubt it? Oblivion's outdoors were also a common benchmark for comparing graphics cards. As I recall upon Oblivion's release getting 30 FPS outdoors on decently high settings was holy s**t, the graphics in Skyrim look leaps and bounds beyond that. As for the games that could take advantage of $300 graphics cards: Battlefield, HAWX, Half Life 2 Episodes, Unreal Tournament 3, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Dragon Age Origins, Metro 2033, Lost Planet, Left 4 Dead 1&2, FEAR, FEAR 2, Supreme Commander, Starcraft 2, etc.

Fact of the matter is if you are a PC gamer and unless you are big on Plants Versus Zombies, Bejeweled, Sudoku, etc. you should have at some point in the past 5 years put down $300 on a video card. If you aren't why the hell do you care about The Elder Scrolls? It started on the PC and Oblivion is MUCH better for the PC, thanks to Bethesda for NOT completely patching it's award winning game. In terms of bugs X360<PS3<PC<PC+unofficial patches. Likely they will mess up just as bad on Skyrim, release a handful of patches and give up on it and start working on Fallout 4 or something.


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18 Jan 2011, 1:57 am

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How can you doubt it? Oblivion's outdoors were also a common benchmark for comparing graphics cards. As I recall upon Oblivion's release getting 30 FPS outdoors on decently high settings was holy sh**, the graphics in Skyrim look leaps and bounds beyond that. As for the games that could take advantage of $300 graphics cards: Battlefield, HAWX, Half Life 2 Episodes, Unreal Tournament 3, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Dragon Age Origins, Metro 2033, Lost Planet, Left 4 Dead 1&2, FEAR, FEAR 2, Supreme Commander, Starcraft 2, etc.

Fact of the matter is if you are a PC gamer and unless you are big on Plants Versus Zombies, Bejeweled, Sudoku, etc. you should have at some point in the past 5 years put down $300 on a video card. If you aren't why the hell do you care about The Elder Scrolls? It started on the PC and Oblivion is MUCH better for the PC, thanks to Bethesda for NOT completely patching it's award winning game. In terms of bugs X360<PS3<PC<PC+unofficial patches. Likely they will mess up just as bad on Skyrim, release a handful of patches and give up on it and start working on Fallout 4 or something.


I've played PC games since 1994. I purchased my last video card two years ago for about $150 and Dragon Age: Origins, Mass Effect 2, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, and Starcraft 2 run pretty smoothly on high settings. I have no idea why you'd think this is a necessary requirement to be a PC gamer. I think you're misusing the word "should."

I did have trouble with Oblivion when it was new, but that was solved with a video card I purchased for about $120.

The only games I have ever heard that required expensive video cards like you say were Crysis and Far Cry. Just about everyone else seems to make their games graphically accessible.



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18 Jan 2011, 7:03 pm

I call BS, you got a great deal or your eyes are ret*d (and by that I mean slow). I run a overclocked BFG 7950GT which I got when they hit a low of $220 or something, before that I had a 6800GT which I paid $310 for...which was low for a good 6800GT. Currently I have my eyes all over GTX 460s but my processor wouldn't be able to feed one adequately, Biostar failed to release bios updates to make my AM2 board compatible with AM2+ CPUs, etc. I have NEVER been able to run a game within 6 months of it's release at high settings.


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18 Jan 2011, 7:24 pm

I am excited for this one. Oblivion was like a 10 of 10 for me I probably played it 100 times.



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18 Jan 2011, 8:51 pm

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I call BS, you got a great deal or your eyes are ret*d (and by that I mean slow). I run a overclocked BFG 7950GT which I got when they hit a low of $220 or something, before that I had a 6800GT which I paid $310 for...which was low for a good 6800GT. Currently I have my eyes all over GTX 460s but my processor wouldn't be able to feed one adequately, Biostar failed to release bios updates to make my AM2 board compatible with AM2+ CPUs, etc. I have NEVER been able to run a game within 6 months of it's release at high settings.


If my eyes are slow I can't complain; fps is pretty satisfactory on everything I play and the games are pretty. I still don't understand this idea that PC gamers are required to buy into gaming at a specific price point to really be gamers (or be confined to Bejeweled or whatever). I understand wanting the best of the best of the best gear, but not everyone can budget the money for the best of the best of the best, or even finds it necessary to have the best of the best of the best to get a good playing experience out of new games. I ran Mass Effect 2 on highest settings, it ran fine. It still runs fine. It may be that our standards for fine are different. I can live with that, I just object to:

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Fact of the matter is if you are a PC gamer and unless you are big on Plants Versus Zombies, Bejeweled, Sudoku, etc. you should have at some point in the past 5 years put down $300 on a video card. If you aren't why the hell do you care about The Elder Scrolls?


As a PC gamer who's never spent $300 on a video card who cares a lot about the Elder Scrolls (but also likes Plants vs. Zombies) I think this is a silly thing to say.



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18 Jan 2011, 9:21 pm

Okay let's put it this way, my grandpa play solitaire on his work computer and my grandma plays bejeweled and spider solitaire on hers. Would you really call my grandparents PC gamers? Casual gamers maybe, but it's not the same as someone who plays Half Life 2.

The price point is going down....or maybe I just am getting behind on things cause admittedly, I hate motion gaming, this primative "3D gaming" BS that nvidia is pushing, the 3+ monitor crap ATI is pushing and honestly I'm starting to lose interest in physics because it's so poorly implemented it seems like a gag (have you ever bumped into a table in oblivion and seen a cup fly across a room at ridiculous speed?)

FYI best of the best s**t costs $500+ per card and 2-4 cards, as an unemployed guy who has other expensive priorities (cars) I still manage to put down some good money on computer s**t. Also, keep in mind what you get for the money. If you buy a $50 video card it's not even 1/100th the performance of a current $200 card. You get more for your money if you pay for more than just the materials and processes to make the card.

I'm not saying you can't take interest in plants versus zombies but if that's YOUR GENRE OF CHOICE you don't need a good video card and you probably shouldn't start being interested in Oblivion since it's NOT an easy game to pick up for a non-gamer anyways.


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19 Jan 2011, 12:31 pm

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19 Jan 2011, 7:52 pm

Pistonhead wrote:
Okay let's put it this way, my grandpa play solitaire on his work computer and my grandma plays bejeweled and spider solitaire on hers. Would you really call my grandparents PC gamers? Casual gamers maybe, but it's not the same as someone who plays Half Life 2.


Right, but... I do play Half-Life 2 - just on the best video card that's available. I am still waiting for episode 3. I almost certainly have more video card than your grandparents.

My parents spend a lot of spare time playing Frontierville. Watching them grind, I am willing to grant they're gamers. I don't think playing the top of the line high end games with the most powerful video card is necessary, and there can be more than one category of gamer.

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The price point is going down....or maybe I just am getting behind on things cause admittedly, I hate motion gaming, this primative "3D gaming" BS that nvidia is pushing, the 3+ monitor crap ATI is pushing and honestly I'm starting to lose interest in physics because it's so poorly implemented it seems like a gag (have you ever bumped into a table in oblivion and seen a cup fly across a room at ridiculous speed?)


Oh I agree with this paragraph a lot. The physics get on my nerves in some games - like you said with Oblivion, why does everything need to scatter when you look at it? It was clever to implement but needed way more fine-tuning.

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FYI best of the best sh** costs $500+ per card and 2-4 cards, as an unemployed guy who has other expensive priorities (cars) I still manage to put down some good money on computer sh**. Also, keep in mind what you get for the money. If you buy a $50 video card it's not even 1/100th the performance of a current $200 card. You get more for your money if you pay for more than just the materials and processes to make the card.


I have never paid less than $120-150 for a video card, I just don't tend to pay more.

My previous computer, oh my god. I was trying to get a video card that'd run the games I wanted to play along with a new computer at Fry's, and the salesman is aggressively trying to convince me that the integrated video chip on the motherboard will be sufficient for all my needs. Seven years later, I still want to travel back in time and verbally slap him.

I have put a lot of money into my computer - it just so happens that this meant I couldn't spend all that much money on a card at the same time. I picked one that had decent bench marks.

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I'm not saying you can't take interest in plants versus zombies but if that's YOUR GENRE OF CHOICE you don't need a good video card and you probably shouldn't start being interested in Oblivion since it's NOT an easy game to pick up for a non-gamer anyways.


I only recently started to get into the indie games - they're really clever and a lot of fun, and take risks you just don't see in the top titles, and play around with some cool ideas. I mean I'm thinking of World of Goo and Braid as two examples here. The Path is another good one, but I have yet to finish playing that.



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20 Jan 2011, 2:44 am

If they just fix the goddamn character models, facial expressions and sappy voice acting, then I'm content.