Anyway to download old playstation 2 games legally?

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13 Dec 2012, 1:46 am

I absolutely adore playstation 1 and 2 games. I don't have a playstation 3, and it is out of price range.

I need to game to take my mind off things during my winter vacation.

I really want to play Dark Cloud 2. I've tried to play it for the longest time.

I've bought three different copies and a new one to relive the experience. All are incompatible with my recently purchased playstation 2.

I felt I've paid my fair share and want to download dark cloud 2 to my PC so I may finally play. Any resources?

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13 Dec 2012, 1:50 am

You can't really download PS2 or PSX games. PSX doesn't have online, and the PS2 doesn't have a browser that lets you access websites.

Your best bet is to buy some restored games on eBay, or Craigslist.

If you did get a PS3, you can go on PSN and download any game they have in their inventory. I've found countless PS2 games I've enjoyed in the past on there.

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13 Dec 2012, 9:56 pm

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Why don't you use one of those copies on your PC?

You'll need a PS2 emulator but it should work unless the disks are really damaged.

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14 Dec 2012, 4:02 am

As has been mentioned, there's a limited selection of ps2 games available for download to the ps3 via psn, if you were to acquire a ps3. I'm hoping that the Vita will eventually have ps2 emulation too, and hope that the selection of ps2 games available for download will increase, but it is what it is. The_Perfect_Storm's suggestion is probably your best bet. I don't know anything about emulators beyond 16 bit. I tried downloading a psx emulator once, but I couldn't get it to work. It's just too complicated for someone like myself who isn't remotely tech savvy. I could get a 16 bit emulator to work in my sleep though. Then again, so could a monkey. :roll: Emulators are illegal, but if you were to use one for the purpose of playing ps2 discs, and you had a working ps2 at one point in time, then I think it's ok. I'm not sure about getting it to read discs though. I've only used emulators for roms. I guess it's possible, given that ps2 games are discs, and an emulator is software designed to mimic a game system and read files it sees as games corresponding to that system.

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14 Dec 2012, 4:06 am

Tross wrote:

Emulators are illegal, but if you were to use one for the purpose of playing ps2 discs, and you had a working ps2 at one point in time, then I think it's ok. I'm not sure about getting it to read discs though. I've only used emulators for roms. I guess it's possible, given that ps2 games are discs, and an emulator is software designed to mimic a game system and read files it sees as games corresponding to that system.

Emulators aren't actually illegal. Certain uses of them are (for example playing games you didn't pay for). Nobody will be coming after you for playing games you actually own, especially if you're playing them off a legit game disk!

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15 Dec 2012, 5:57 pm

It is NOT Illegal to use an emulator, and your pc hard drive likely wont be able to read ps1 discs, and some ps2 discs, no one is going to come after you for using an emulator on discontinued systems and games, the problem however is that you are going to have problems finding a ps2 emulator that works well.

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16 Dec 2012, 3:37 am

No, there's no way to legally download any game other than by purchasing said game from the respective companies (ie Sony with Playstation Network) and playing it on their system.

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16 Dec 2012, 10:55 am

Jaden wrote:

No, there's no way to legally download any game other than by purchasing said game from the respective companies (ie Sony with Playstation Network) and playing it on their system.

You can do whatever you want with your own game disks. Including emulation.

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16 Dec 2012, 11:50 am

since what you pay for i a license it would also be legal to download any games you aready own as a disk.
there are also several games that are now quite literally outside of copyright, they can be downloaded freely, good old games is a good place to start if you want to find those, i would suggest getting a forum account there.

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16 Dec 2012, 12:06 pm

PSONE games can be bought online, then downloaded and played upon a PS3, a PSPortable, or a PSVita via the Playstation Network online. Each game usually costs less than ten dollars!

Also Andriod Phones can use a program by Sony called "Playstation Suite" that lets you purchase and play PSONE games on your smartphones.

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16 Dec 2012, 4:54 pm

The_Perfect_Storm wrote:

Jaden wrote:

No, there's no way to legally download any game other than by purchasing said game from the respective companies (ie Sony with Playstation Network) and playing it on their system.

You can do whatever you want with your own game disks. Including emulation.

which still requires purchasing said game from game companies, that's the point I was making, there's only one legal way to own any game, and that's by buying it, whether it's a download or not, whether you use it for emulation afterward or not. there's never a real legal way to download games for free, whether you own the disc or not. The End User License for games doesn't cover hacking for use on pc so that also is illegal btw. (and yes it is hacking because no game company would ever license rights for their game to be played using a program other than their own that must be bought, and for those who would disagree with me, you show me in the EULA document for said games that proves your point, and I'll change my views, until then I'll stick to my knowledge of how game companies handle their legality).

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16 Dec 2012, 8:30 pm

that has already been in court,

it depends on several factors and it isnt as simple as an EULA, the EULA still has to comply with local law regarding IP and software.

if the software is no longer officially supported(obsolete) you can even legally crack dongle based protection systems with code generators.
many ps1 or 2 games actually fall into this category, which is why one can find information about which games are and arent on the GoG forums.

cracks are also legal if they patch security holes and to improve ineroperability between other programs.
even the origin debacle is affected by this since a bloated drm program filled with security holes in itself is a vector of attack.

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16 Dec 2012, 8:55 pm

Oodain wrote:

What you pay for isn't a license though. At least not in my country..

Second, no one will be coming after you for downloading PS2 games. It just won't happen.

Third, you don't even need to download the games if you have them on disk. PS2 games are recognized by PCs.

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16 Dec 2012, 9:06 pm

if the disks however are damaged one could have a need of downloading a game.

as for license or not that would indeed depend on where you live, generally though you buy a license and not the product itself as explained by the EULA.

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16 Dec 2012, 10:03 pm

Oodain wrote:

A EULA is legal agreement between consumer (end user) and the company who's selling the product, stating what said consumer is allowed, legally (which the company themselves are allowed to define since they're the owner of said product) to do with said product.
If you disagree, then give links to prove me wrong, otherwise I call bs.

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16 Dec 2012, 10:21 pm

Quote:

(1) Motion pictures on DVDs that are lawfully made and acquired and that are protected by the Content Scrambling System when circumvention is accomplished solely in order to accomplish the incorporation of short portions of motion pictures into new works for the purpose of criticism or comment, and where the person engaging in circumvention believes and has reasonable grounds for believing that circumvention is necessary to fulfill the purpose of the use in the following instances:
(i) Educational uses by college and university professors and by college and university film and media studies students;
(ii) Documentary filmmaking;
(iii) Noncommercial videos

(2) Computer programs that enable wireless telephone handsets to execute software applications, where circumvention is accomplished for the sole purpose of enabling interoperability of such applications, when they have been lawfully obtained, with computer programs on the telephone handset.

(3) Computer programs, in the form of firmware or software, that enable used wireless telephone handsets to connect to a wireless telecommunications network, when circumvention is initiated by the owner of the copy of the computer program solely in order to connect to a wireless telecommunications network and access to the network is authorized by the operator of the network.

(4) Video games accessible on personal computers and protected by technological protection measures that control access to lawfully obtained works, when circumvention is accomplished solely for the purpose of good faith testing for, investigating, or correcting security flaws or vulnerabilities, if:
(i) The information derived from the security testing is used primarily to promote the security of the owner or operator of a computer, computer system, or computer network; and
(ii) The information derived from the security testing is used or maintained in a manner that does not facilitate copyright infringement or a violation of applicable law.

(5) Computer programs protected by dongles that prevent access due to malfunction or damage and which are obsolete. A dongle shall be considered obsolete if it is no longer manufactured or if a replacement or repair is no longer reasonably available in the commercial marketplace; and

(6) Literary works distributed in ebook format when all existing ebook editions of the work (including digital text editions made available by authorized entities) contain access controls that prevent the enabling either of the book’s read-aloud function or of screen readers that render the text into a specialized format.

from the DMCA Section 1201

this has further been expanded upon by several court rulings to include interoperability of any program as long as the product is bought.
it also includes emulation and improvement beyond the scope of the original program as found in the swgemu vs SOE case a couple years back.
this however hinges around the impact on the original work, since sony had a falling playerbase and that the explicit mission statement of swgemu was to bring players that no longer played the game back the court ruling ended up in their favor.

furthermore any EULA has to be legally valid within the country where it is sold, which is why you find differences from country to country.

even then there are always the possiblity of a court ruling, these matters are the greyest area of modern law, there are many contradictory laws around the world(within their local system, not internationally, there it is a given)

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