"Hatred" reveal trailer... *discussion*

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I understand where you're coming from but if the game doesn't have even the slightest of humor or way to loosen up the mood or even the curtosy of adding a for of reprimand for doing such heinous acts, then it's just a genocide simulator and i can't accept it and whatever it stands for. The saddest thing is that just like Carmageddon, the game can suddenly be acceptable in todays standards by switching the population from innocent bystanders into zombies that have killed your family. Suddenly by doing so the game changes from a hate simulator into a retribution simulator. It's sick but suddenly acceptable.

What makes the idea for this game really dumb is that the "innocent people" the "protagonist" is supposed to kill would start getting mad pretty quick. But it looks as if they are only designed to run away or beg for their lives. I have a feeling the police will be laughably ineffective in this game as well, but I might be mistaken.

If you've ever actually played Carmageddon, you'd know that it actually has a very humoristic slant to it, albeit a dark one. Apparently, when it was first submitted to the BBFC, the people who were assigned to rate it actually enjoyed the game a lot in its initial form, but they changed the pedestrians to zombies for the European market just to be cautious. This change was later reversed for most of the European market, however. Of course, the game was still very controversial. I remember watching my dad play it at a local cyber cafe back in the day, and my mom wasn't too thrilled. He says he refused to play it at first, but he eventually gave it a try.

Like I said above, I'm not going to be buying or playing Hatred, because the developers support hate groups, as far as I can tell. The game's content, while shocking, doesn't strike me as something that should be banned or censored. If it turns out to be like that infamous "Ethnic Cleansing" game where the content itself is racist in nature, then I could argue that there could be a case for banning it on that basis.

Changing the enemies to zombies would definitely cause a lot of the controversy to die down, and the game's content itself would become more socially acceptable... but that wouldn't change the fact that it's being developed by people who I am fairly certain support hate groups. I would still boycott it.

Sorry if there is confusion here >,.,> I said that if they are willing to make a decision like what carmagedon did then it would be sociably acceptable, not saying carmagedon doesn't have any humor >,.,> adjusting my grammar would have been very helpful just then >,.,>

I completely agree with you on the whole not buying it because of the hate group thing as well. Doing so would basically be saying that i agree with their actions in which i do not. Infact, i'm quite against it being mixed race (of chinese, italian and english), suffer from minor physical disabilities AND am Bi (kind of) so yeah ^.^" lol, if i was famous, i'd be at the top of their target list >,.,>

Anyway, the biggest point of my argument against this "Game" still sits at the fact that it is incredibly violent and the fact they wish to distribute it on steam meaning the same kids who play call of duty can get a hold of this "Game" is not good. Kids are impressionable. heck, humanity is impressionable, it's just kids are more so. the "Game" at this point is supporting the idea of going on killing sprees. I can not be completely bias about it though and if the graphics are high enough then i may change my opinion of the game to "An attempt at showing the true Horrors of such an event, just with a poor delivery of the idea"... I still don't condone the idea though.

just to point it out, because only the hate is getting looked at: the gameplay looks like serious garbage. isometric shooter: pffft. i dont think this game has any real playvalue.

also about epics reaction to this game: you cant be a bigger hypocrite, "plz dont advertise us, but you can keep using our engine". if they really were bothered by it they would find some lawbackdoor and forbid them from using the engine.

about the neonazi rumors, i think i read a post about it where it was said that they liked some very right facebook pages and had some t-shirts with some kind of military unit on it that is used mainly by neonazis in their country.(this unit is regarded as heroes in their country but just not as excessive i think).

If you hate it, don't talk about it. Otherwise you'll help spreading it.

I've seen an article saying "I sincerely wish this game will fail.". Oh, really? Congratulations, you've actually HELPED this game.

Also, I want to play that game, because I'm curious about its gameplay.

I think a more mature response would be...


That alone is the reason I have no desire to talk about this.

when I watched the trailer I instantly started laughing my ass off about how edgy it was, I'm sure uwe bowel will be making a movie of it in a few years...

That was my reaction at first too.

But Uwe Boll has already sort of made a movie about it, well one that's on the same lines: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1337057/ I've seen it and it's kind of f****d up, but an interesting watch. The main character sort of reminds me of Tyler Durden from Fight Club.

Maximum edge is right, just trying to get an rise out of people. Controversy creates cash I guess.

Just looked up the neo-nazi thing. Apparently that's not true, this according to the CEO himself. He liked a neo-nazi page on fb about some polish group. According to him the reason he 'liked' it was because it listed news about the group that he couldn't get anywhere else.

I actually do not believe in the desensitization thing. Not in the least bit! I have no problem viewing tv or video game violence, but when tv portrays and talks about real events (Dr. G or 100 Ways to Die) or even shows some real things, I get really uncomfortable. In fact I don't know how doctors and nurses do what they do, because they see some real gnarly things. I can't handle the real stuff.

I'd still be a little bit suspicious if he's using a neo-nazi page to get his news. There are about a million other places you can get your news online besides some invariably-biased page run by a hate group.

I have no strong opinion on the game.

I'll just see it for what it is "a game". I'll check it out when it's out, see if gameplay is any fun at all and if it's not... well, boohoo, I won't be bothering with it.

As much as I can see how people think it's controversy; controversy sells. This goes for all media. Perhaps the developers used cheap tricks, but hey... if cheap tricks increase sales... you can't blame them for trying to sustain themselves financially. If people are really so shocked and upset with it, I suppose people should just ignore it and not buy it. But we all know how it goes... a game like this will receive so much negative publicity. And if there's something I've learned from own experience, even negative publicity means you're in the public eye.

What's however an interesting notion in a sociological sense; if this game actually does pretty well and people are enjoying the gratuitous violence and perhaps even enjoy the premise (how thin it may be), it does tell us something about the state and direction society is going. Though I suppose there's already quite some of that in music, movie and literature I presume and these things also sell, even if it's by a niche group. With gaming being an ever increasing group, the audience might be quite big. Imagine they'd port it to be a mobile game... everyone and their mother would at least know about "Hatred".

What makes me wonder about games and overall, media like this, how much more can we push the envelope. At this pace, saturdaymorning entertainment will be firing squads shooting puppies eventually.

Yeah yeah I get it, rated M for Manly, it has to be violent or it's no good or it's for kids or wussy girly-type gamers. Who cares about things like plot and characters with actual personalities and backstories that people still enjoy years after the original game was released? Those things require, you know, intelligence and other brain-hurty stuff. I'll just check out the gameplay because I have a morbid sense of curiosity.

Gameplay looks blah, i.e., simple top down shooter with little realism and accuracy.

That never stopped me from playing the early GTA titles either, lol