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Yeah, Minecraft can be just a BIT irritating in that form. Not to mention that the online is.... not entirely there for it. You can access all sorts of specially-made servers run by all sorts of different groups on PC. That doesnt exist whatsoever on the consoles. So you're missing a ton of fun stuff there.

But anyway, it all sounds like a pretty good approach to me You're already doing WAY more than most parents I've met, when it comes to this sort of thing.

And when researching stuff, you can always ask specific questions about games/consoles right on here; chances are someone on here knows the answer to whatever it is.

Oh, and as for the 360's problems... just to be clear, it's not a matter of it just crashing like a computer might. It's a matter of it dying entirely. This was very frequent with them. The infamous "Red Ring of Death" would appear, a ring of red lights around the spot the power button is on, signifying that the whole thing was pretty much just plain broke... usually the only solutions were to either replace it, or send it in to Microsoft (if you had the warranty) for a loooooooong refurbishment process. It was pretty terrible. I think I got really, really lucky with mine; I know alot of people that went through multiple units, because the crazy things just would inevitably break down and stop working.

Of course, it's possible that more recent 360 models may have dealt with this problem somewhat; I dont really know. Mine is old and I've not encountered the more recent models very often. But that's been the legacy of the thing overall, and something it was always notorious for.

Thank you so much for you help. It's hard to make the right choice with so much conflicting information online.

The 360 sounds as though it could be more trouble than it's worth assuming they haven't fixed the fault. I tend to want to make my purchasing decisions based on cost when it hasn't always been the best choice simply because I'm inherently miserly for things not for myself

I have mine craft on October and ps4/PS3/psvita and I prefer it on consoles . The pc version is more a head in updates so has bunch more stuff but I don't notice or mind. I don't get how you can say it's horrible I find the controls way more easy and simple and I don't have to remember 100s of formulas to build stuff.

Careful of listening to misery and others their pc elitists so they are biased towards pcs.
I grew up on and prefer consoles. They whole pic vs consoles is just as bad as the gender wars. I don't get why people can be so territorial about objects. Like the apple vs android wars.

The 360 or ps3(free online) would be little cheaper like 50-70 maybe though he might be upset all his friends have the new ones and he doesn't. I was also late to the new console til I was 22 and got a job. Ps4 was the first one I got day one lol
That said supposedly xboxone is adding backwards compatibility for some 360 games. But yeah 360 will offer more game choice and cheaper price for those games

Keep in mind that starting in November, when the new Xbox One OS comes out, it will be backward compatible with Xbox 360 games. Not all 360 games will work right away, but Microsoft is working to get as many as possible (all they need is permission for the game's publisher). Just something else to consider.

Try knowing more about the person you're talking about BEFORE saying crap about them. Seriously.

I guarantee you, I probably have waaaayyyyyyy more consoles and console games than you do. Aside from exactly 2 of the most recent ones... and the PS2 that had an "incident"... I have all of them. Back to the days of the Atari 2600. I simply buy games for whatever the bloody hell the good games happen to be on, and I have no spending limit (no, seriously... I have no spending limit). Hell, the Wii U is getting MOST of my attention lately.

Also? I grew up with them too. The consoles, that is. I've had them since I was three (and generally, I got new games whenever the heck I happened to want them, and as it's my main hobby and special interest.... you do the math. I dont have enough space to hold all of them... not even close). And I am now nearly 34. Just think about that.

Dont call people "PC elitists" or any of that crap, seriously. I could call YOU a "console fanboy", but that wouldnt be too fair either, now would it?

Hell, I've rambled... on and on and on.... about all of the things I *dont* like about PCs. I do this frequently. The slightest things send me into that particular rant, which has a great many variations. If you actually bothered to listen, instead of being drowned in your own bias, you might know this. I could seriously eat up 20 straight pages with how much I freaking loathe the goddamn things. I play games on there, because the games I WANT just happen to be on there.... nothing more. If they WERENT? Then frankly, the godforsaken thing could go jump off a cliff. Hell, as it is, one of my all-time favorites on PC, the Binding of Isaac, suddenly made the jump to consoles recently. And guess what? I havent touched the PC version even once since it did (and this is something I play daily). If I can play it on THOSE, it means I dont have to put up with... with... THIS damn thing I'm using now.

PCs like to go batshit insane at random. Consoles DONT. Hell, Nintendo's consoles in particular are bloody indestructible. Wheras the computer has problems if I look at it too hard. Frankly, I hate the horrid thing, necessary though it is. I dont like this keyboard too much either, come to think about it...

Either way though.... DONT do that again. My mood has been bad enough lately, and frankly, I'm near my snapping point.

I get SO bloody tired of people making goddamn STUPID assumptions about me. It. Gets. OLD. There arent that many things that make me more angry. Frankly, I actually DONT know why my patience hasnt broken yet. Normally, it would have, but I havent hit that "blazing" state yet for some reason. How odd.

As it is though, maybe the OP should be careful about listening to YOU, for pretty much the same reason except on the other side of things, eh? Again though, that sounds kinda unfair, dont it? Yeah. IT IS.

Really. I thought most of us here were beyond that kind of crap; this stupidity is usually reserved for Youtube's accursed comments section.

Apparently, I was wrong. I'll be sure to keep that in mind when dealing with you. How disappointing...


EDIT: No, no. I'll stop at this spot. Writing further is just going to get me more fired up past this point. Note that I dont control anger well, as my name might suggest.

Well most your posts are about how horrible consoles are and great pcs are

FYI a lot of the so called pc master race people own consoles now. You can own somethings you claim to be super inferior

I own disposable razors but don't use them anymore. I just get so sick of seeing "consoles suck" everywhere I go . I get you don't care for them much I don't care for pc but I'd never say pc are terrible

You seem to go into a lot of console threads and go on and on about pcs being great just like pc people go and comment on console based YouTube videos about consoles suck and pc master race. Really starts to get to me like how I went and bought a new gun and my sort of friend was like why did you get that piece of crap, xd's are better.

Personally I'd say pc and consoles are both good. Just because pc are super more graphics doesn't mean they are way better and consoles should be avoided. I'll never game on a pc I don't like it but I know people who do and I support that. Just like I prefer glock but other guns are just as good. I personally had problems with android and apple has been great others like android what I don't care for is their mean remarks about my devices or me for owning them.

You actually make me anxious about posting in here well not just you but others too because I'm just a console player and I'd really like to talk about them without hearing how much better pc is.

Only posted because the advice so far seemed like consoles suck get a pc

.....okay, this is always the sort of response I get, and I dont get it.

What part of my constant ramblings of "I hate these goddamn PCs" doesnt seem to make sense to anyone?

Look, I dont mean to make you anxious, and I apologize if I went a bit overboard... as I said, I tend to do that. This is a bad time of year for me where everything bloody hurts AND my allergies are on and off, and my sleep schedule has been really wobbly thanks to my accursed appointments all being shifted around (ugh). Dont take me TOO seriously at all times. I vent a bit like that, from time to time. Though, as I said, people making derpy assumptions does bug the hell out of me.


But anyway, I dont think the damn machines are better. PCs, that is. As I said, I hate them. Yeah, I"m using one right now as I type this, but I hate the bloody thing. It uses WINDOWS of all things, and breaks down if I exist at it too hard. And the USB panel doesnt work right (at all), and.... ugh. I'll not describe it. It angers me. Wheras my downright ancient Atari 7800 unit, which sits next to this keyboard, works *perfectly* after some damn silly number of years. Baffling, that. It's soooooooo freaking old, but it has yet to fail on me. Thus, it gets a spot on the desk.

No, the reason why I use the PC is I just like the SELECTION better. It's bigger, by quite a huge amount. Devs on there arent bound to publishers all the time (obviously, some still are) and nobody at all is bound to manufacturers. Most of my favorite games... not all, but many of them.... originated from there. Of course, others originated from consoles even recently, such as the bloody amazing Super Mario Maker (it's been out like, what, 2 weeks, and it's already a favorite of mine). Consoles seem like they might be making the shift to mostly digital media themselves as well (as the PC did), so their selection may also dramatically inflate soon... frankly, I'm kinda expecting it, at this point. It'd be... interesting to see.

And I will say that I SERIOUSLY dont care about the graphics bit. I really, really dont give a damn. I know most people DO, but I dont. I look at games these days like, say, the recently released MGS V, and.... I"m sorry, but I"m just not impressed anymore. I just dont CARE anymore. I miss the old days of 8 bit sprites with like, 3 colors each, where gameplay was king, not the damn visuals. Nowadays, it's just.... depressing, frankly. I built this damn PC to handle anything, yes, but the funny thing about that is that it's kinda rare that it has to. I did it moreso on a "just in case" sort of idea. Only a very few specific games that I own (I mostly buy indie titles or retro games, on both PC *and* console) actually use the thing's full power. And.... I actually cant remember what they are, aside from Anno.

If I was obsessed with graphics, I'd have upgraded this stupid bloated mass I call a computer, and I also wouldnt be so enthralled with the Wii U of all things. After all, everyone considers that thing weak in comparison to the other two, yeah? Which to me is a big load of crap, but whatever....

And the one last reason why I tend to ramble about the PC is.... well, the same reason why alot of people on this site ramble about ANYTHING, is that it's sort of my special interest. Though not just that, but the intersection of TWO special interests. I've always loved gaming (my biggest interest), but I've also loved things like software design and fiddling with stuff like that (my second one, out of maybe three). Hell, I started learning programming at age 7. So this godforsaken THING is basically an unholy fusion of the two. I dont like the stupid machine, but it *is* the point where the two come together, so it's the thing I'm most likely to ramble about.

....unless you get me started on the weather. But just.... just dont.

Also this mouse isnt working right. This is going to be one of THOSE days, isnt it...


....also my advice wasnt so much "consoles suck, get a PC" here. No, I think I just rambled about Minecraft PC VS console too much, because that one BUGS THE HELL OUTTA ME. It just... does. Either way though, my thoughts for the OP remain pretty much the same.... the PS4 or the XBone probably will do (if the cost isnt too much), particularly as they're both relevant and will remain so (unlike the 360), but they just need to research the hell out of whatever they buy for those things first. Though, I still maintain that the Wii U is the best of the three, but it was already stated that they didnnt want that one.

Well, I love all kinds of video games. I play handhelds, consoles and PC (even though the only game I have for my PC is Catz 5. I just ordered Heroes of Might and Magic V)

So why not ask your son what gaming system he wants and likes best? My first console was a Gameboy Color that I still have. I also grew up playing PC games.

So...that's all I have to offer.

But keyboard controls can be a bit clunky (Especially for a kid). Think about WASD, ctrl, shift and all those other confusing buttons.

You dont have to use that though. The keyboard/mouse I mean.

*I* dont. I figure, I spend like half of my time typing on the goddamn thing.... eventually, you tire of it. Not to mention that I dont find it to be very accurate... so I use a controller for pretty much every game. PS4 controller, hooked up via a USB cable. It was previously a PS3 controller instead. I'll say, the PS4 one is muuuuuch easier to set up and use.

Of course, it depends on the game to an extent: there are certain entire genres that dont appear on console because the damn things pretty much *need* a keyboard/mouse (mostly the mouse is what does it) to work. Something like Starcraft 2 or whatever, you know. But I find that it's very rare that I cant find some way to use a controller for something. Even for the PC version of Minecraft. Which doesnt support controllers. I've been playing it with a controller for so long ANYWAY that when I did somewhat recently try it with keyboard/mouse, all that happened was that I A: couldnt hit a damn thing with my arrows, and B: kept walking off of cliffs.

As you might guess, that's not a very efficient way to get any adventuring or building done. So back to the controller it was, yep.

Though as for what you quoted, it's the bit with the indie games that's what keeps me glued to the thing. I'm so tired of much of the mainstream crap. But that's a whooooooole other topic. A long one. With ranting. 20 pages of it.


Though I will say, the Wii U sure is doing well for itself right now. I've barely done anything else in the last like 2 weeks here. I'm really glad I bought that thing.

Thats true, so many COD , battlefield and gta crap on consoles. I own some indie games on pc (Not much, because I only have a crappy $600 worth laptop) like Besiege, Terraria and Amnesia. There are still some good games on Console though, take for example The Witcher or InFamous. And indie games like Fez and Shovel Knight.

I'd say Xbox is a good place to start a kid off with gaming, it's where I started when I was 14. Easiest controller to master. PC will just confuse your kid most likely, it confused me that's for sure. Start with the fundamentals and eventually your kid will move his way up through PS and onto the PC. Plus as a parent it's a lot easier to restrict what games your kid can play on a console compared to open internet access if that's something you're worried about. Plus you don't have to guess if your system can run a certain games graphics with a console.

I'd personally get him the Xbox one over the 360, xbox one has a lot of new titles coming out in the next year or two. They're also remastering anything that was actually important for the 360 and porting it to the One. Plus he might spite you for getting the older console, makes it hard to connect with anyone at that age that could be friends if they don't have the same console. The one also has just started it's life and the 360 is going to its grave now. The One is a better investment.

This not true on any level.
The Xbox controller has just as many buttons and sticks as the Dual Shock controllers (PS) and Wii U controllers.
Hell only the Xbox Elite controller and Steam controller have more buttons.

I always thought dual shock controllers felt weird in my hands personally. Their shape was odd, it's a bit better now with the Dual shock 4 controllers. The last Nintendo controller I've liked was for the gamecube, I do sort of like the new gamepad one they came out with for the Wii/Wii U that basically resembles the gamecube controller though. I've always felt I had the most control with the xbox controller, and that's not just nostalgic bias, I played PS2 and the Wii long before I had a 360.

Yeah I'd say either get him an Xbox one or a Wii U.

Dual Shock controllers problem is the sticks are below the buttons and D-Pad, which makes it hard to hold for many.
PS3 suffered from a curve near the triggers, which made it hurt for long play sessions.
Gamecube Controller was made to ergonomic but was hated by many for it's shape and size.
Wii Remote and Nunchuck I can use for hours on end without any trouble (one of my personal favorites).
Classic Controllers (Wii) modeled are based on the Dual Shock controllers.
The Wii U two controllers are based on the 360 design after 3rd parties gave Nintendo a headache.
The gamepad is good for many games, just not the best for Smash, Bayonetta, and some Racing games due to the size and button mapping (you cannot use it with Wii).
The Wii U pro controller is good for many games and easily fits one's hands, the best dual analog controller I have used tied with the Gamepad.

I haven't used the Xbox One controller that Microsoft spent $100 Million building.

I do want to play with a Steam controller, I might actually buy one.

The way PlayStation presents trophies instead of just achievements in a cooler fashion.