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28 Jun 2010, 10:17 am

^^Yeah, doing the setting correctly is a problem. I'm thinking about writing one taking place in Sweden :P Now, that's something I know stuff about.



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28 Jun 2010, 10:25 am

Well, the Stockholm metro system looks pretty large. That'd make a great setting. And when I looked back at the novel, I noticed that they have snouts. Dmitry says that they have muzzles. That usually means they have a snout. so they do kind of look like the ones from the game. But they are black with giant white eyes.

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28 Jun 2010, 10:35 am

Yeah, it's pretty big. Plus, Sweden would in an all-out nuclear war not exactly be a top priority target for either side. Sure, we'd be pretty damn irradiated given our rather central location - But I doubt that we'd get nuked. Maybe a little bit. :P

Edit: I took a look at the Swedish Wikipedia article for shelters (Blast, fallout, etc - all one article). It reads (rough translation):

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There are around 14 500 blast shelters of varying size with a total of ca. 1,7 millions spots in the county of Stockholm. In central Stockholm, where there's not enough shelters available, 18 metro stations have been prepared to be quickly prepared shelters for the populace.


There's even a really big shelter, "Klara skyddsrum", which was made for civilians and government personnel - Was built during the Cold War, and can take up to 8000 (according to some sources, 12-15 000) people. There's also a list of various other large shelters, and their size.. This is great material. Sorry for derailing the thread. :roll:

Edit 2: More derailing! According to the Department of Society Protection and Prepardness (rough translation) there's around 65 000 shelters spread through the country, with capable of hosting about 7 million. Many were built during the Cold War..



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28 Jun 2010, 3:44 pm

No, you're not derailing it at all. I made this thread in the video game section despite it really encompassing the novels and the video game. Low priority targets would not be as heavil damaged as major ones, so I assume people can walk around somewhat, at least at the beginning, without filtration masks. I think that's how it was done right after the bombs hit in Moscow. But in the book, only about 8 or 9 years after the bombs dropped, the dark mutated forests have already grown and the sky is already glowing with the radioactive particles. I think that the whole thing would be like a world wide Chernobyl. In just days, the atmosphere would have become highly radioactive because the winds would have swept it everywhere.

Remember, for such low profile countries as Sweden, I think few nuclear missiles would be wasted one city. Place the point of impact at a certain place within Stockholm that could be a threat. Say any military bases or if applicable, a government building housing the ministry of defense if Sweden has such a thing. The goal of a nuclear war is to eliminate any potentially major opposition. In The US, the most important cities, the most important military/navy/air force bases, and all of the sites where nuclear missiles are kept are the primary targets.



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29 Jun 2010, 6:47 am

Had an idea - Since it would probably be less interesting, in my opinion, if everything was intact, at least one nuke would be good. We don't really have any major targets - but what if it weren't a location, but a person they'd try to hit? The state of head and a few other officials of a country involved in the conflict was doing a state visit to Stockholm? The other side could have thought "what the hell, let's get those bastards too." and sent a smaller nuke to take them out.

That'd leave the city with the largest amount of shelters, and with the only metro, in ruins and the rest of the country basically intact but with sever radiation, probably killing most of the people out there.

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29 Jun 2010, 2:13 pm

When I set the map on the pentagon and nuked it, the damage barely reached the other side of the Potomac River. So most everything would be intact as I had expected for the RP. I think maybe the Pentagon has a bomb shelter. I've been trying to look that up. If they do, and if they got information indicating that the enemy had initiated Nuclear War, then I don't think it would be best to tell everyone. It would cause mass hysteria.

Edit: oh, never mind. That was a small bomb. Congress cannot work without the president. So the Capitol Building would not be a target. Either the president or the Pentagon. That was why the last two planes that were hijacked on 9/11 were trying to hit the Pentagon and presumably the white house. The one that was to hit the white house never was able to do so. The Pentagon was hit, but the damage only killed like 100 people I believe. They control the armed forces, so they would definitely be a major target, maybe the most major target in the US.

Fallout 3 was also set in Washington. And it's depiction of the ruins left the area quite intact. That's how I'd like it to be. I just don't think that'd be the most realistic depiction. I chose Washington as the setting of the RP because it has a very large metro system and I think that although it's important, it is too small to be targeted with a large missile, rather than because of Fallout 3. Fallout as a series doesn't take into account that if a Nuclear War on the scale it describes ever occurred, a nuclear winter would ensue that would take centuries to stop.

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30 Jun 2010, 3:44 am

In fiction in general, ultra-realism isn't required. :)



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30 Jun 2010, 10:51 am

Metro 2034, a sequel is in the works. If you read the news that is.



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30 Jun 2010, 11:24 am

I didn't notice that. Great, then maybe the other three will be made. They're shorter than the first two, so they don't have to be abridged as much. Or maybe they can be expansions or DLC.



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30 Jun 2010, 3:44 pm

There is a 6th Metro 2033 book coming out. Again, I cannot translate Russian that much as I know very little, but I can read Cyrillic. It is going to be called Mjetro 2033: K Svjetu(which means "into the light" I think) by Andrei D'Jakov and its coming out in Russian in, I don't know. I doesn't have a release date. And I just noticed as well that a 7th book is coming out. It's going to be called Mjetro 2033: Vykhod Siloi by Roman Andreju, which means output Power or something like that.
The 6th book is the one with the bald guy and the 7th is the one with the guy wearing a hood.

As Russian syntax isn't all too different from that of english(wll compared to languages like Vietnamese and Japanese), google Translator works particularly well for translating chunks of writing on this website as I now see. I'll translate the other books' titles. Temnye Tunneli is "The Dark Tunnel" Piter is of course "Peter" as in St. Petersburg, and Putjevye Znaki means "Track Marks".

Link to Dmitry's website: http://www.metro2033.ru/index.php


I also found this on youtube. They made a commercial when the book came out in novel format(It was written on Dmitry's website for people to read in 2002). [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30i1Eq5DG1I[/youtube]



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07 Jul 2010, 5:05 am

I finally have the book. :o Reading will ensue within short.



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08 Jul 2010, 8:36 am

Reading has been completed. Yes, I read quickly.

Wow, just.. wow. The author did a great job building the world of the Metro.

And the ending.. Of course, I have the game, but it is far more striking in the novel.