Failure of Blu-Ray and what this means for the PS3

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Anyone remember laserdiscs? Betamax?

yeah, it's called hd-dvd

I think it's far more likely for this generation that Microsoft would ship their own proprietary drive or use the HD-DVD drives they've already designed. No reason to pay Sony royalties on the format this late in the cycle. If Bluray does become a popular as regular DVD, MS will probably have to do this for their next system - just so they can play Bluray movies.

[quote="jamesohgoodie"]Read this first (don't worry it's short):

http://tech.yahoo.com/blog/null/108657

Personally I felt this since Blu-Ray and the PS3 first arrived. The question is, if Blu Ray does indeed fail in the next year or two, what does this mean for the PS3? Sony's invested much more into the PS3 being a player of Blu Ray movies than it has being a game console. And since PS3 games are released ON Blu Ray discs would they have to find a whole new format? Or possibly create a whole new game console?

Makes you wonder what the bloody point of it all was. Your thoughts?[/quote]

tottaly agree with you

space issues are already starting to show on the 360 and games with multiple disks. blu ray would eliminate that...and they won't be using the hd-dvd format when blu-ray has more storage space and more versatility (the blu ray movies which are still being made vs hd-dvd movies which are long out of pressing now).


including it as an add-on would incrase the console's lifespan and act like a dagger to the ps3 essentially removing one of the last reasons to get a ps3 and for developers to consider the ps3 over the 360.


that, of course, requires that sony actually admit blu-ray is failing and open it up to public licensing to where microsoft could use the technology....but yeah, it's possible.

I don't remember how big it is (22 inches?), but I have a 1680x1050 widescreen monitor, and depending on the DVD, I have to sit pretty close, or wear my glasses, to notice much quality loss. But it really does depend on the DVD...especially DiviMax, those things are just great =) Wish I had more of them.

Was trying to get hi-def Terminator 2 running, for comparison (from the X-treme DVD), but just getting past the DRM bullcrap is a feat and a half



Technically, MPEGs do not have pixels. I forget exactly the term they use though, dots or something (though they're oval shaped, not circles). And then you have to take NTSC vs. PAL into account, which to the best of my knowledge doesn't apply to computer monitors or HDTVs (though I could be wrong) @_@

Hmm, couldn't find what I was looking for, but I found this about non-square pixels: http://lurkertech.com/lg/pixelaspect/

Apparently hi-def formats do have square pixels? Go figure.

I actually think Blu Ray is starting to pick up.

More and more people seem to buying HDTVs, well here in UK anyway. They are advertised like crazy and you can always find a good one on offer in a sale. Well a sign of desperation to shift them? you only need to walk into a shop to see that they do sell.

Also I have just noticed prices have dropped a lot in the xmas sales for BD movies. But yes its going to take a while to conquer the already saturated DVD market.

I hope it does become the standard because I don't think we should be watching anything other than HD on our LCD TVs. SD on LCD TVs just looks plain weird and unnatural. Its not like CRTs where SD stuff looks pretty good. However SD content can look ok providing you have a good equipment i.e. one with upscaling features.

I don't see the PS3 failing anytime soon. Even if Blu-Ray movies fail, they still can make games on Blu-Ray, or offer and add-on for another format like the X-Box 360. It's an excellent and versitile piece of hardware that is pretty much future proof for the next couple of years.

Once the prices come down on the units, and developers start designing games exclusively for the PS3, intead of porting them over, I think it will take off.

Ya. SD is ugleh stuff. ~However~, it might not be enough to lure the average person in.

It means that the PS3 is going to bleed ot death... Just like the BUS in 1832...

I think that you all have forgotten an important variable the world economy. The world economy is still getting beaten to death again and again I doubt that a large number of people will adopt HD TVs and Blu-Ray players over the course of the next five years because unemployment is rising and people just don't have the money to buy luxury items like they did a year ago. Now we must not forget about the movies themselves they are quite expensive a new movie is $30.00 dollars, most people see $30.00 as a bit much to pay for a movie, now couple that with poor story quality of the movies and I think the blu-ray player is in a very big hole without a way to get out.

So now I think that the blu-ray player will have a very slow growth for the next five or so years or it will fail and I am putting my bet on fail.

Blu ray hasn't failed. The problem is not enough people have an HD-TV yet. You really need a 40 inch+ one to make it worthwhile too. Blu-Ray is just ahead of the curve of the average person right now.

Also, Blu-Ray discs for games can handle several times the data on a typical DVD.... IE, they could never make metal gear solid 4 on dvd... you would need like 7 discs to do that.

Also, I just watched the Dark Knight on Blu-Ray on my 50 inch Panasonic. Amazing. Simply, amazing.

Yeah, I was gonna say: The economy

Am I the only one that think it's a really bad time for the U.S. to switch to Digital exclusively?

Then again, I'm not the one paying for it yet, and EVERYBODY I know has Digital now so it's really time for my dad to stop bein a cheapass and be forced to get Digital anyway.

The switch to digital signals is really only for TV signals sent over terrestrial radio waves, in order to free up some of the signaling bandwidth, and has nothing to do with the economy...

I agree. The switch to DTV was planned years ago, and it will mostly affect people with those ancient TV's. These people will either have to get a cheap converter box if they want cable, or a digital antenna (which is supposed to pick up stations better than analog). The only downside, would be to all of those people stealing cable off their neighbors.

the time will come when blu-ray will be bought and this probably will be when it lowers its price for very much (because the difference between a DVD and VIDEO where huge! The difference between blu-ray and dvd are big to although dvd already has a high quality thats why people don't tend to buy blu-ray yet because dvd is fine enough for them, but when the price lowers of the blu-ray-discs and blu-ray itself then it will be bought (like i says before)