Adults can't play non-violent games? Really?

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The last bit in quotes made me picture Marty McFly playing Wild Gunman......

And I agree. Hardcore used to mean being a real gamer who plays just about everything....now it seems like you're not a "hardcore" gamer unless you spend hours a day playing multiplayer and only play single player on the hardest settings.

Actually it's possible to be both fat and anorexic. There is a blog I follow about prejudice against fat people and one of the things I've seen posted multiple times is how hard it is for them to get diagnosed with things like anorexia or bulimia just because they aren't skinny from it yet.

http://www.today.com/health/200-pound-anorexic-obese-teens-risk-disorder-its-often-unrecognized-4B11216388

I agree with the other part. I've posted things like that before about how it seems like children and teens are the ones most worried about things being "childish" because they badly want to seem grown up. Mature adults generally don't care and do what they like even if it's "childish".

Eh... This sentiment is rather daft to me. Heck I've played games considered for the considerably younger audience. I've played games like Klonoa, LittleBigPlanet, Pokémon and amongst others.

I've enjoyed a huge range of games through my 8 years of being an adult so far.

Aye, this.

The game in question could be all cute, fluffy kittens and happy bunnies for all I care, so long as it's GOOD.


....that being said, I do have a dislike of excessive/unnecessary violence. I dont really have a problem with violence in gaming as a rule, but there's so many games where it seriously feels like it was just shoehorned in for the purpose of making the game more "mature", which to me is bloody stupid.

Either way though, people should just play whatever game they feel like playing.... and to hell with anyone else who thinks that the choice they make is dumb. They can go right back to their Call of Halos or whatever damn FPS is the big one right now... I'll stick with my fluffy kittens, thanks.

This is a recent phenomena. I remember a time when you were lucky if your video games looked as good as a bucket full of infant's vomit following a crayon-binge. No age-ratings back then.

People seriously have a problem with adults playing anything aside from M rated games?

I say play what you want if you enjoy it who cares what other people think? Its they who are immature for trying to dictate which games should be played by other people.

Aye, that too.


I swear, I must be the only one that honestly prefers the visuals of games on the old 2600 or NES to alot of the butt-ugly "mature" stuff that comes out these days.


.....and we all walked uphill, both ways, in knee-deep snow, to school each day, and we LIKED it, dagnabbit!

I don't consider CoD kiddies to be "hardcore" gamers in the slightest. A hardcore gamer, to me is someone dedicated to video gaming, who plays what they like, independent of other people's opinions. I consider myself a hard-casual, because the longest I usually spend playing a single game is maybe a week until I get bored and move onto something different, but at the same time, I still have an extensive knowledge of gaming history, and I've been playing video games ever since I could handle a keyboard and mouse (as you may or may not know, I started out with PC games. )

The games that I choose to play usually just happen to be whatever strikes my fancy at the time. I never actually played any FPSs or mature-rated games until I was 12, but I certainly watched my dad play some when I was younger than that, and it just so happens that some of the more violent games he played back then ended up becoming favorites of mine later on (like Diablo I and II, Carmageddon, Duke Nukem 3D). Of course, since I was highly unsure if my parents would have actually approved of me playing those games before I was 12, I mainly stuck with things like various Nintendo franchises (mainly Zelda, StarFox, and Super Smash Bros), fantasy JRPGs, Ratchet and Clank, early Maxis titles, "retro" games (I had a huge obsession with the Atari 2600 and Intellivision for a while ) and other stuff like that. Coincidentally, my mother enjoyed, and still enjoys a lot of those games as well. To this day, I'm still a huge fan of a lot of the games that I played when I was younger, and I honestly think that the ages of 8-11 were some of the best years of my gaming life.

I don't care about ratings, I care about how much fun and how long I can play X game. I used to play Quake for hours on end back then.

This. And that used to be the definition of a hardcore gamer....until online multiplayer became the be all & end all of gaming to far too many people

Tell that to Doom, Mortal Kombat or Star Wars: Dark Forces. ^^

Those games weren't out yet

Mortal Kombat was released to arcades in 1992, Doom came out in late 1993, and Star Wars Dark Forces came out in mid-late 1994 afaik. The first two certainly helped spark the creation of the ESRB, though I think Dark Forces came out shortly after the ESRB first launched. Even if it didn't though, in comparison to the other games mentioned it wasn't really all that violent, as there was no blood or gore, and most of the weaponry was sci-fi laser-based stuff.

I'm prehistoric (older than the internet), and there have been video games around longer than I have.

Actually it was MK and Night Stalker...which is funny, because Night Stalker doesn't even have anything bad in it, really. Footage of girls in pyjamas, that's about it.

I remember I once owned the first game that was rated MA-17 by the ESRB. Lethal Enforcers for the Sega Genesis. The language was noticeably toned down from the arcade version, but it was still a fun (if somewhat unfairly difficult at times) light gun game.