Is gaming rubbish at the moment? Will it recover?

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18 Jul 2014, 6:15 pm

Yeah, as others have said, it's mostly the staleness of old consoles; say after 2010's releases, it's been repetitive sequels and re-releases. Technology and culture progressed without us really getting new hardware.
Innovation stagnated and we all got sick and tired of it


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18 Jul 2014, 7:12 pm

aussiebloke wrote:
^^^^

My mistake I meant replay value .



Yeah, that's pretty much what I meant too, haha.


Low amounts of various sorts of content in a game like that can hurt the replay value. WIth Titanfall, it lowers the..... interestingness?... of the customization of both pilots and Titans, and THAT is an issue, as that concept is very important with that type of game. That's why it needs more "STUFF". Customizing your builds is very fun and interesting but there's just not enough things of any category to choose from. If they can fix that, it'd be pretty great.



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18 Jul 2014, 9:36 pm

^^^

I don't play throw away games any more , If it's not worth playing twice (to me ) why would you play it once ?
The thing is with Halo it's a middle ground sort sort of not ?


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18 Jul 2014, 11:47 pm

aussiebloke wrote:
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I don't play throw away games any more , If it's not worth playing twice (to me ) why would you play it once ?
The thing is with Halo it's a middle ground sort sort of not ?



Oh yeah, I totally understand that one. I always feel the same way. If a game doesnt have good replay value, I just dont touch it. That's one reason why I just dont like story-based games... because it's like, once you've finished the story all the way to the end, what else is there to do? Usually not much of anything. I cant stand that idea. I tend to play alot of games like Roguelikes that use procedural/random generation, so that every time it's a whole different thing, and you never know just what'll happen. I love that idea.

Something like Titanfall or Halo or whatever is a bit different though from the once-off games. Multiplayer games tend to have lots of replayability, since the point is playing with or against others. I dont think there is such a thing as a multiplayer game that isnt somewhat repetetive, it's the nature of them, really. But while you get the same maps/levels/weapons/things/whatever over and over again, the point is that you'll have different opponents each time, with different skills and tactics, and your own skill can continue to increase. It means that the game often never FEELS repetitive.

I do fighting games alot myself, and I'll say that there are few genres that are as amazingly repetitive as those. But they have huge replay value. There's always more skill to be gained, more things to learn, more techniques to come up with, and every opponent is different.... it really never gets old, at least not to me. Not even after thousands of matches in the same game.


That's my thoughts on multiplayer games, really.

Something like Halo sorta goes both ways. On one hand, you've got a campaign or story mode, which is the bit that you'd likely only need to play through once. But the game is also pretty focused around it's multiplayer, which is the part that is meant to be played a million times over, and is what most players buy the game for. The storyline mode ends up being sort of just an extra bonus.



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19 Jul 2014, 12:11 am

^^^

I read what you wrote nothing more to add for the time being....


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06 Aug 2014, 1:58 pm

I remember back when I could go to a store, read the back cover of a game and make the right decision about whether or not I should buy it. I found Rayman 2 that way.
I would never do that now, though.



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06 Aug 2014, 9:06 pm

Redstar2613 wrote:
I remember back when I could go to a store, read the back cover of a game and make the right decision about whether or not I should buy it. I found Rayman 2 that way.
I would never do that now, though.


So true....these days, you get a one-liner and a few random screenshots with vague bulletpoints written in at least 2 languages and nothing really useful or informative. Thankfully there's Gamefly, so I don't have to worry too much about wasting money...

Also, I miss the old days purely for the lack of gimmicks and, as odd as this may sound, instruction manuals. Ahh, the smell of a brand new game manual....you could read the manual and learn how to play as well as get info on the characters & world before you played the game using just a d-pad and a few buttons....now you have to tap a touch screen or flail around like an idiot to play games and dig through menus &/or slog through tutorial levels to learn how to play. Plus, the huge focus on cutscenes & voice acting can get annoying when the game doesn't have any option for subtitles ( what if a deaf person wants to play? they might care about the story too.... ) or the acting is horrendous...


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06 Aug 2014, 11:18 pm

Yeah I used to love the manuals to .
How much longer before they stop making hard copies period ?........


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07 Aug 2014, 11:33 am

probably not until at least next generation. the us internet infrastructure can't yet handle downloading games at 50gb each.



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07 Aug 2014, 5:29 pm

I will all ways prefer hard copies hopefully theirs enough people to sustain this niche.


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07 Aug 2014, 6:03 pm

^i'm one of those people.


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07 Aug 2014, 7:05 pm

Ok theirs 2, any others ?


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07 Aug 2014, 8:16 pm

Hard copies are already pretty much gone, for PC gamers now. If you dont have the means to download such things and are into PC gaming.... probably about 95% of it is blocked off from you nowadays. Most actual stores these days dont seem to even carry PC games anymore, and those that do carry very few.

Consoles though, I dont see those dropping out of that format for a long time yet. PCs have been permanently welded to the internet for.... a really long time now. Consoles though still really arent, so there's no way they could get away with that right now, beyond the XBLA/eShop/whatever sorts of things.



There was a time when I would have said "yeah, I prefer hard copies as well", but then I look around my room, and see things like a 2-foot-radius ball of cables, ancient Atari 2600 games strewn all over the place (I get alot of use out of them) CDs for who knows what just equally strewn everywhere, and all sorts of other random junk, and I also notice just how damaged some of those CDs are (most are useless now anyway though; the only ones that are still important are the 360's import games, and THOSE are kept in a specific spot at least).

Things either get damaged or lost in my possession; the 2600 games are allowed to be anywhere because the things are nigh-indestructible. But anything else.... yeah.

Considering the rapid rate at which I buy games, and that it's my main hobby, and how exceedingly disorganized I am, digital downloading is muuuuuuch better than physical copies.



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07 Aug 2014, 8:31 pm

Thankfully I don't have that problem as I'm not really in to retro games and post ps1 I only buy approx. 30 games each gen . So answer to the op no I don't believe it's rubbish at the moment , I'm surprised how much quality their is if you hunt it out , games that break from the norm like Deadly Premontion , that game is amazing , the crappy mechanics , graphics etc is deliberate it adds to the charm of the game . :)


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07 Aug 2014, 9:24 pm

aussiebloke wrote:
Thankfully I don't have that problem as I'm not really in to retro games and post ps1 I only buy approx. 30 games each gen . So answer to the op no I don't believe it's rubbish at the moment , I'm surprised how much quality their is if you hunt it out , games that break from the norm like Deadly Premontion , that game is amazing , the crappy mechanics , graphics etc is deliberate it adds to the charm of the game . :)


Yeah, it's a bit different if you're only buying so many.

As opposed to me buying like 15-20 or so in a single month.

Though, THAT isnt the reason for disorganization, Im just that way about everything.



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07 Aug 2014, 10:26 pm

^^^

Holey crap your keen 15-20 a month !
Have you played DP , if not you should!


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