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07 Feb 2012, 1:30 pm

If video games had as much influence as you say, there would be many more cases of violence in real life than there have been. You know it's a scapegoat when the medium is getting more blame than what's on television or in movies or music. None of them have the power to control anyone.


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07 Feb 2012, 1:33 pm

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If video games had as much influence as you say, there would be many more cases of violence in real life than there have been. You know it's a scapegoat when the medium is getting more blame than what's on television or in movies or music. None of them have the power to control anyone.


I simply mean that ignoring that is wrong. I don't think fostering people to sit for hours or days at a time in a dark room staring a a bright screen is a good thing. It literally hypnotizes people. At the time, you weren't supposed to talk about it just be rah-rah-rah! look at all the money we're making!


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07 Feb 2012, 3:51 pm

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I don't think fostering people to sit for hours or days at a time in a dark room staring a a bright screen is a good thing.


I'm studying computer science and must disagree with you, apart from the bright screen thing. It should be bright text on a black screen, feels much better. ~.~


I like GTA. And Skyrim. I so very much enjoy the opportunity to do things I seldom get to do around here. Gotta satisfy the violent voice in the head somehow. Well, that, and games where I get to fight the player behind the other screen.



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07 Feb 2012, 3:54 pm

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I don't think fostering people to sit for hours or days at a time in a dark room staring a a bright screen is a good thing.


I'm studying computer science and must disagree with you, apart from the bright screen thing. It should be bright text on a black screen, feels much better. ~.~


I like GTA. And Skyrim. I so very much enjoy the opportunity to do things I seldom get to do around here. Gotta satisfy the violent voice in the head somehow. Well, that, and games where I get to fight the player behind the other screen.


You are only 25, you didn't sit with CRT displays for 15 years.



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07 Feb 2012, 4:19 pm

I play video games a lot. In less than four years I played Runescape a total of 335 days and 18 hours.



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07 Feb 2012, 11:13 pm

heres an article about girl games in starcraft 2 that floated up recently:

http://www.team-dignitas.net/articles/b ... er-in-SC2/



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08 Feb 2012, 10:08 am

I just think don't girls are likely fall into the dark basement life that guys will with video games.



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08 Feb 2012, 12:07 pm

My sister gives me a blank look when I ask her what her favorite console game is.

She finally asked me; "What is a game console?"

Apparently she has no idea that I own more than twelve of them. :shrug:


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08 Feb 2012, 12:19 pm

MakaylaTheAspie wrote:
My sister gives me a blank look when I ask her what her favorite console game is.

She finally asked me; "What is a game console?"

Apparently she has no idea that I own more than twelve of them. :shrug:


Why'd you ask her if she doesn't play videogames? Or if she does, how does she not know what a console is?



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08 Feb 2012, 12:19 pm

MakaylaTheAspie wrote:
My sister gives me a blank look when I ask her what her favorite console game is.

She finally asked me; "What is a game console?"

Apparently she has no idea that I own more than twelve of them. :shrug:


What is a sister? Oh wait, I have two.



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08 Feb 2012, 12:25 pm

I guess I'm unusual then. At times I played Runescape nonstop 12+ hours a day. It's not unusual for me to play video games most of the day from the time I get up to the time I go to bed. Lately I mostly play Runescape or Sims 3 but I played video games all the way back to getting my first Atari in second grade.



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08 Feb 2012, 1:14 pm

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I just think don't girls are likely fall into the dark basement life that guys will with video games.
Maybe not as likely, but I'm definitely one person who's just starting to get out of the basement. It's easier to hide and get absorbed into games instead of life.



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08 Feb 2012, 1:16 pm

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That's the clientele for ya. They can't get away with it in real life so they do it in a game. I don't think people realize that sin always sells especially when people feel there are no consequences.


I don't think the majority give a f**k about 'sin'. And I don't like your implication that people that play videogames are bad people. I think you're an idiot to be honest. What are you even doing here?


That's not what I was implying at all. You're right the majority doesn't give a f**k about sin, they enjoy it and that's why the games sell. Sex sells is another way to put it as well. If you actually think about it gamers as a whole are more moral than the average entertainment demographic. It's just the few games that sell like crazy, probably weren't intended for gamers in the first place but for the masses. Those are the games that are changing the industry. That was my point.

You have misinterpreted almost every post I've seen you comment on, and replied in a fairly offensive or obnoxious manner. Try reading it twice and putting yourself in the commenters shoes before replying. I am a gamer of 19yrs but you seem out of the loop so why are you here?


"They can't get away with it in real life so they do it in a game" implies people want to commit crimes in real life.

"especially when people feel there are no consequences" implies that their are consequences to 'virtual sin'. When clearly there aren't. The fact you call it sin anyway is weird in itself.

Valid interpretations of your post.

I don't know what else you think I've misinterpreted.


You've misinterpreted the demographic I was targeting, I don't think I can put it any more plainly that gamers are not the people actually changing the gaming market and that, is why I feel you are out of the loop. Any gamer would have understood that in the first post, that our market is being snatched from under us and turning into the underbelly of the mass market.

I guess there's nothing else to say, if you truly believe people (again the masses) don't inadvertently want to commit crimes with no consequences then you are either in with the bunch or convoluted and ignorant. I have nothing else to say at this point as I am not one to argue, especially on the internet.



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08 Feb 2012, 9:06 pm

Onyxaxe wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
Onyxaxe wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
Onyxaxe wrote:
That's the clientele for ya. They can't get away with it in real life so they do it in a game. I don't think people realize that sin always sells especially when people feel there are no consequences.


I don't think the majority give a f**k about 'sin'. And I don't like your implication that people that play videogames are bad people. I think you're an idiot to be honest. What are you even doing here?


That's not what I was implying at all. You're right the majority doesn't give a f**k about sin, they enjoy it and that's why the games sell. Sex sells is another way to put it as well. If you actually think about it gamers as a whole are more moral than the average entertainment demographic. It's just the few games that sell like crazy, probably weren't intended for gamers in the first place but for the masses. Those are the games that are changing the industry. That was my point.

You have misinterpreted almost every post I've seen you comment on, and replied in a fairly offensive or obnoxious manner. Try reading it twice and putting yourself in the commenters shoes before replying. I am a gamer of 19yrs but you seem out of the loop so why are you here?


"They can't get away with it in real life so they do it in a game" implies people want to commit crimes in real life.

"especially when people feel there are no consequences" implies that their are consequences to 'virtual sin'. When clearly there aren't. The fact you call it sin anyway is weird in itself.

Valid interpretations of your post.

I don't know what else you think I've misinterpreted.


You've misinterpreted the demographic I was targeting, I don't think I can put it any more plainly that gamers are not the people actually changing the gaming market and that, is why I feel you are out of the loop. Any gamer would have understood that in the first post, that our market is being snatched from under us and turning into the underbelly of the mass market.

I guess there's nothing else to say, if you truly believe people (again the masses) don't inadvertently want to commit crimes with no consequences then you are either in with the bunch or convoluted and ignorant. I have nothing else to say at this point as I am not one to argue, especially on the internet.


You've separated gamers into two categories. Real gamers and the 'masses', those pretenders that just want to satisfy their violent desires... That first post only hinted at gamers in general but okay.

I don't think you can really make a distinction that way between the old-school sort of gamer and the new generation. Gaming has certainly changed but it's not about snatching it from under you.. Changes to gaming have mostly been for the better.



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09 Feb 2012, 1:41 pm

The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
Onyxaxe wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
Onyxaxe wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
Onyxaxe wrote:
That's the clientele for ya. They can't get away with it in real life so they do it in a game. I don't think people realize that sin always sells especially when people feel there are no consequences.


I don't think the majority give a f**k about 'sin'. And I don't like your implication that people that play videogames are bad people. I think you're an idiot to be honest. What are you even doing here?


That's not what I was implying at all. You're right the majority doesn't give a f**k about sin, they enjoy it and that's why the games sell. Sex sells is another way to put it as well. If you actually think about it gamers as a whole are more moral than the average entertainment demographic. It's just the few games that sell like crazy, probably weren't intended for gamers in the first place but for the masses. Those are the games that are changing the industry. That was my point.

You have misinterpreted almost every post I've seen you comment on, and replied in a fairly offensive or obnoxious manner. Try reading it twice and putting yourself in the commenters shoes before replying. I am a gamer of 19yrs but you seem out of the loop so why are you here?


"They can't get away with it in real life so they do it in a game" implies people want to commit crimes in real life.

"especially when people feel there are no consequences" implies that their are consequences to 'virtual sin'. When clearly there aren't. The fact you call it sin anyway is weird in itself.

Valid interpretations of your post.

I don't know what else you think I've misinterpreted.


You've misinterpreted the demographic I was targeting, I don't think I can put it any more plainly that gamers are not the people actually changing the gaming market and that, is why I feel you are out of the loop. Any gamer would have understood that in the first post, that our market is being snatched from under us and turning into the underbelly of the mass market.

I guess there's nothing else to say, if you truly believe people (again the masses) don't inadvertently want to commit crimes with no consequences then you are either in with the bunch or convoluted and ignorant. I have nothing else to say at this point as I am not one to argue, especially on the internet.


You've separated gamers into two categories. Real gamers and the 'masses', those pretenders that just want to satisfy their violent desires... That first post only hinted at gamers in general but okay.

I don't think you can really make a distinction that way between the old-school sort of gamer and the new generation. Gaming has certainly changed but it's not about snatching it from under you.. Changes to gaming have mostly been for the better.


I seperate everything into two categories, I'm too indie not to b***h and complain about the masses lol. Glad the misunderstanding was cleared up :).



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09 Feb 2012, 1:52 pm

I know lots of girl gamers. I think it depends on which games you're playing, some games get far more girls than others. Best mix for male female ive found is in mmorpgs, probably due to the variety of ways you can spend your time. Figures really, mmorpgs cater for a lot of different types. Never used to find many girls playing shooters though.