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27 Apr 2012, 10:11 pm

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yea but its only in oot 3D master quest not the proper game...


Yeah, the Master Quest on the GameCube wasn't like that, was it?



master quest on the gamecube was more normal, and even more less ura like than the 3DS version.


Lolwut? Do you even know what Ura Zelda is? Master Quest on the Gamecube and on the 3DS are almost exactly the same. The only differences are that the 3DS version is flipped and enemies do double the damage.


iim sorry, i dont speak troll.


Wow, you're real mature. Try to start something with somebody and when you realize you're wrong and can't win you just delete your post and call me a troll. Whatever.


oh and quick note, i would call you the less mature one, being the one picking arguments making arse remarks, and picking fights with less intelegent persons, i have classic autism, congratulations, troll.


Don't pull the whole "I have classic autism and am less intelligent card" that doesn't mean anything in this argument. You still claimed I was wrong and you never backed that up.


oh and im sorry, i thought we were on a autism website.


I thought you were done? And yeah, we are on an autism website, but thing is most members here are heavily against using their autism as a pointless excuse. I'm arguing with you, there is no point.



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27 Apr 2012, 10:40 pm

I've put a lot of deep thought into all the Zelda games and which ones are better than others. This is my personal list of the best Zelda games in order of their quality, and reasons why they are in that spot. (However the Four Swords games will not be on this list due to the fact that they are party games and can't really be classified as Zelda games imo)

To start of the list these following games are not ranked by number. These are the god tier games in my opinion, the games that in my mind are perfect or as close to perfect as possible. They are tied equally

A Link To The Past
- Just a masterpiece in gaming, it's where the Zelda series truly found it's footing and in some elements I feel no Zelda game has even come close to topping it.


Ocarina of Time- Pretty much exactly what I said about A Link To The Past applies to OOT, although I feel this deserves a bit more respect for bringing the gameplay into the 3rd dimension and introducing the Zelda series penultimate villain of Gannondorf. It's not nostalgia as why this is commonly seen as the best Zelda game in the series, it truly is a game that can withstand the test of time, for all time. And the graphics style for the game I feel are the most suited for the franchise


Wind Waker
This personally is my favorite 3D Zelda but I can't necessarily call it the best, so it's tied with the other god tier games. I felt that cel shaded art style was beautiful and fit the world and the story perfectly. I loved the storyline that felt completely different from all the other Zelda's, It was the most complex and also had the most complex villain in the series. I'd honestly say that WW Gannondorf is one of the best villains in all of gaming. The huge world, and the amazing cast of characters was also great, as well as some amazing dungeons and bosses (Ghodan is my favorite boss in the series), and also has some of the greatest moments in the series (walking into Hyrule Castle and seeing it frozen in time is my favorite of the entire series) and the game I feel is one of the games like OOT that will hold up forever.


Links Awakening
My favorite of the series yet still tied with the other 4. The story was emotional and amazing and had a complexity and depth that I don't feel any Zelda has yet approached yet. There are literally no flaws with the game (except for how much you have to switch items) and I could go on and on about why this game is amazing. I'll just leave it as it is. And that's perfection


Now the numbered list begins
Number 1
Oracle of Ages- This was a fantastic game, and the best game outside of the god tier in my opinion. Had an amazing story, and a great villain. And some fantastic dungeon designs. The only reason it wasn't part of the god tier was because it just didn't have that same feeling to me that the god tier games did to me.


Number 2
Oracle of Seasons
Almost all the I said about Oracle of Ages applies here, while I personally didn't enjoy it as much as Ages it's still simply fantastic. Also I have to note that Oracle of Seasons has one of the most amazing overworlds in the entire series.


Number 3
Spirit Tracks- This game gets a large amount of hate for some reason I don't know. It takes all the negative aspects that Phantom Hourglass had and made them actually enjoyable. The game had a great story, and introduced a very compelling new villain. And the Spirit Flute I felt was a really great instrument, and the tweaks in the controls and updated graphics from PH really made this in my opinion one of the best Zeldas in the series.


Number 4
Majoras Mask- This is a great game that sadly has some negative aspects that keep it out of god tier. The game has an amazing dark story with complexity and depth that rivals and on some parts surpasses WW and LA and also has the amazing Stone Tower Temple, 3-Day system, and a great amount of amazing sidequests with amazing characters and character development, and Links transformations. Sadly the games main overworld; Termina Field feels very cluttered and ill designed, and the other 3 dungeons that aren't Stone Tower simply aren't very memorable nor very good in general. Add in some at times clunky controls and this is an amazing game that was held back by just a few negative qualities keeping it from perfection.

Number 5
Skyward Sword- This was a great game with some amazing temples, bosses, a great story, and some great characters (Groose and Ghirahim especially) and a beautiful art style, I loved the Beetle, and flying, and especially the Silent Realms. The reason it isn't in god tier is due to both personal reasons as well as some actual criticisms. To get my personal opinions out of the way, I just don't like using motion control for everything. I liked it being used with certain puzzles and the beetle but I hated controlling my sword with complete accuracy. Real criticisms was Fi was terrible and honestly spoiled a large amount of puzzles and bosses and story elements, it really felt like Nintendo was just trying to spoonfeed the entire game to us and remove the satisfaction of actually figuring out things ourselves. The sidequests also weren't as well done as Wind Waker or Majora's Mask. I didn't care for many of the characters and I didn't like how the sidequests didn't feel seamless like MM and WW's did. The overworld being sectioned off was quite irritating as well.


Number 6
Adventure of Link- A game that gets a lot of hate for trying something different, the game though is an amazing game, maybe not god tier and maybe not great enough to be the best in the series compared to others but it's definitely in my opinion a fantastic game and a must play. It has imo some of the best music in the series, and an amazing combat system that has you infusing tactical swordplay and magic. And 2d nonlinear sidescrolling dungeons similar to Metroid. The game is a bit hard but I don't see that as a negative quality at all. It's a great game it just doesn't compare to the game above it.


Number 7
Minish Cap- A great Zelda game. With an amazing villain in Vaati, I personally just didn't feel the game did enough new as a whole to be higher on the list. Still a must play in the series.



Number 8
Phantom Hourglass- This is a good game hindered by some terrible design choices, one thing I enjoyed about the game the most unlike Spirit Tracks allows much more exploration. Sadly the game is hindered immensely by the terrible repetitive Temple of the Ocean King and really touchy controls that were fixed in Spirit Tracks. Also the story is really so-so as well.


Number 9
Twilight Princess- This is the worst 3D Zelda, game. in the past I used to few this as a terrible game and an embarrassment to the Zelda series, however I've begun to realize that while it still isn't by any means the best Zelda game, it isn't as terrible as I've seen it. As a whole it's an average Zelda game with so-so dungeons, terrible bosses, 1 dimensional characters, and a story that feels all over the place which has some good ideas but is never really sure what it wants to be. I also feel that Nintendo trying to hard to remind players of Ocarina of Time really hurt the games original elements it was trying to bring to the table. And sadly some amazing items like the Spinner and the Ball n Chain really had no useage whatsoever outside of the dungeons you got them in. I feel like the art style and dark and gritty mood really didn't fit the game or the franchise and felt forced as well, and the game did not handle the usual Zelda humor well with the new art style. There are a lot of things wrong with the game, but it's still a perfectly playable game that as a Zelda fan you will get some enjoyment out of it.


Number 10
Legend of Zelda- Now I know this is going to be a bit of controversy putting the first game in last place. But while I recognize that this was the game that started it off and is still a playable game it just isn't the best. It doesn't hold up as well as any of the others yet is still a good game. I'd reccomend playing it to learn about Zelda's roots or if you are a Zelda completionist. But yeah.



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27 Apr 2012, 10:55 pm

wow, please chill out people. i don't want to have to lock the thread.


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11 May 2012, 9:17 pm

My brother liked Zelda 2: The Adventure of link when we were teenagers, but I have never developed an interest in the Zelda games. I'm not sure why, and I sometimes wish I could so I would have a good reason to own any Nintendo consoles besides Mario Bros. And Animal crossing. And Super Smash Bros. And even Earthbound. Because people are always raving about Zelda games and act like it's the only reason to own a Nintendo system.



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11 May 2012, 11:04 pm

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My brother liked Zelda 2: The Adventure of link when we were teenagers, but I have never developed an interest in the Zelda games. I'm not sure why, and I sometimes wish I could so I would have a good reason to own any Nintendo consoles besides Mario Bros. And Animal crossing. And Super Smash Bros. And even Earthbound. Because people are always raving about Zelda games and act like it's the only reason to own a Nintendo system.


Have you ever played any of the series? If not try out Wind Waker, Ocarina of Time, or A Link To The Past. They are good games to start out with as an introduction to the series.



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15 May 2012, 3:51 pm

majoras mask because you can turn into different forms



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16 May 2012, 6:55 am

I have to list two because there's no way I could choose one over the other. I like Wind Waker and Majora's Mask the best. :)



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11 Jun 2012, 4:06 pm

Ocarina of Time :D Followed by Skyward Sword Granted i like all the zelda games lol



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17 Jun 2012, 6:08 pm

Die hard fans might hate me for this..... Windwaker!! ! There's just something about this game... amazing graphics, open world, countless secrets to discover. Maybe the older Zelda games were better, i played them all but can't remember much besides Majora's Mask



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23 Jun 2012, 6:28 am

For me it's Majoras Mask. But I really liked Ocarina of time, Twilight princess and Skyward sword too. (Though I haven't gotten far in Skyward sword but I watched my sis play it) A link to the past was the first Zelda I ever completed so it's definitely one of my favorite. Also the second Adventure of Link (I think it's called so) Was really fun too. (except mom had to help me trough all of it :P)



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23 Jun 2012, 4:38 pm

Link's Awakening DX. It and Pokemon Red were my most cherished GBC games.

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23 Jun 2012, 4:56 pm

My top 5:
1: Link To The Past (SNES)
2: Legend Of Zelda (NES)
3: Link's Awakening (GB)
4: Adventure Of Link (NES)
5: Oracle Of Seasons (GBC)

I never got into the 3D Zeldas the way I got into the 3D Marios. They were just too complicated for my taste.



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24 Jun 2012, 2:35 am

ocarina of time & majoras mask!



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24 Jun 2012, 3:37 pm

It has to be the legend of zelda wind waker. I've played it through so many times.

A close joint second would be ocarina of time and twilight princess.


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24 Jun 2012, 9:14 pm

I beat Skyward recently for the second time. It had a lot of good moments and the best combat controls in the series, however there was just way too much fluff. It was a 45 hour main quest that (honestly) could have been reduced to 25 or 30, without losing anything significant. Each time an important plot point or an interesting moment came, it just seemed like we had to put that on hold and do another menial task. Sad, because, fluff aside, Skyward would have been the absolute best.

Twilight Princess had the same problem. Despite the best dungeon design in the game, of the 40 hour quest, it easily could have been reduced to 30 by taking out the fluff.

Majora's Mask was a great game because it completely changed things up and set new standards instead of relying on Ocarina's success to follow up on. The flaw of the game however was that it had to be played in large chunks of time (like an hour or two at a time) because of the gameplay clock and saving system.

Wind Waker was very good, but not exceptional.

I really loved Link to the Past.

Ocarina of Time, I think, still keeps the crown.



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24 Jun 2012, 9:29 pm

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Majora's Mask was a great game because it completely changed things up and set new standards instead of relying on Ocarina's success to follow up on. The flaw of the game however was that it had to be played in large chunks of time (like an hour or two at a time) because of the gameplay clock and saving system.


That seems like a really strange thing to say. For me, the time system is the main reason that the game is interesting. It ties the story and the gameplay together, and introduces interesting challenges that would otherwise not exist. And because of the nature of Zelda games, everything ends up taking very little time once you know how it's done. I liked it how I gradually figured out more and more about a dungeon, until finally I could do it all in one go.