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17 Mar 2009, 12:29 pm

I saw KOTOR once in a shop and I really, really wanted it but I couldn't get it because I didn't have an Xbox and my PC wouldn't be good enough to run it. I was recently wondering if I could get it for my new PC, but it has to run on XP.

Sooo... I remembered Halo 2 and went looking on the Xbox website. Luckily for me, KOTOR2 is one of the very few games that supports backward compatibility with the Xbox 360. And I have one of those.

So I want to ask two things:
Can I join things on Xbox Live like Parties, and listen to music? Are there any problems with backward compatability.
Is KOTOR any good, and is it worth the money at the price I can get it: £5 to £10.



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17 Mar 2009, 1:57 pm

gismo wrote:
I saw KOTOR once in a shop and I really, really wanted it but I couldn't get it because I didn't have an Xbox and my PC wouldn't be good enough to run it. I was recently wondering if I could get it for my new PC, but it has to run on XP.

Sooo... I remembered Halo 2 and went looking on the Xbox website. Luckily for me, KOTOR2 is one of the very few games that supports backward compatibility with the Xbox 360. And I have one of those.

So I want to ask two things:
Can I join things on Xbox Live like Parties, and listen to music? Are there any problems with backward compatability.
Is KOTOR any good, and is it worth the money at the price I can get it: £5 to £10.


I couldn't tell you about Xbox Live, since I don't have an Xbox....but.....

KOTOR is fantastic! Computer Gaming World actually called it, when it first came out, "the best Star Wars game to date, and possibly one of the best RPG's ever created." I agree with that assessment.

I have both KOTOR and KOTOR2 for the PC....played KOTOR all the way through twice (once Light Side, once Dark Side). I've played through KOTOR2 once as Light Side. Had an incident a while back so I lost my old games. Probably gonna play through them again though.

If you can, I'd get them both. Well worth the investment. Not gonna reveal the story here, though. There are enough walkthroughs out there to spoil everything :)


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17 Mar 2009, 2:51 pm

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gismo wrote:
I saw KOTOR once in a shop and I really, really wanted it but I couldn't get it because I didn't have an Xbox and my PC wouldn't be good enough to run it. I was recently wondering if I could get it for my new PC, but it has to run on XP.

Sooo... I remembered Halo 2 and went looking on the Xbox website. Luckily for me, KOTOR2 is one of the very few games that supports backward compatibility with the Xbox 360. And I have one of those.

So I want to ask two things:
Can I join things on Xbox Live like Parties, and listen to music? Are there any problems with backward compatability.
Is KOTOR any good, and is it worth the money at the price I can get it: £5 to £10.


I couldn't tell you about Xbox Live, since I don't have an Xbox....but.....

KOTOR is fantastic! Computer Gaming World actually called it, when it first came out, "the best Star Wars game to date, and possibly one of the best RPG's ever created." I agree with that assessment.

I have both KOTOR and KOTOR2 for the PC....played KOTOR all the way through twice (once Light Side, once Dark Side). I've played through KOTOR2 once as Light Side. Had an incident a while back so I lost my old games. Probably gonna play through them again though.

If you can, I'd get them both. Well worth the investment. Not gonna reveal the story here, though. There are enough walkthroughs out there to spoil everything :)


Ok, cool. Thanks for the info. Also, Does it all follow one main storyline or can you travel to other planets as you feel like it and do side quests?



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17 Mar 2009, 3:13 pm

gismo wrote:
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gismo wrote:
I saw KOTOR once in a shop and I really, really wanted it but I couldn't get it because I didn't have an Xbox and my PC wouldn't be good enough to run it. I was recently wondering if I could get it for my new PC, but it has to run on XP.

Sooo... I remembered Halo 2 and went looking on the Xbox website. Luckily for me, KOTOR2 is one of the very few games that supports backward compatibility with the Xbox 360. And I have one of those.

So I want to ask two things:
Can I join things on Xbox Live like Parties, and listen to music? Are there any problems with backward compatability.
Is KOTOR any good, and is it worth the money at the price I can get it: £5 to £10.


I couldn't tell you about Xbox Live, since I don't have an Xbox....but.....

KOTOR is fantastic! Computer Gaming World actually called it, when it first came out, "the best Star Wars game to date, and possibly one of the best RPG's ever created." I agree with that assessment.

I have both KOTOR and KOTOR2 for the PC....played KOTOR all the way through twice (once Light Side, once Dark Side). I've played through KOTOR2 once as Light Side. Had an incident a while back so I lost my old games. Probably gonna play through them again though.

If you can, I'd get them both. Well worth the investment. Not gonna reveal the story here, though. There are enough walkthroughs out there to spoil everything :)


Ok, cool. Thanks for the info. Also, Does it all follow one main storyline or can you travel to other planets as you feel like it and do side quests?


The game is largely serial, but there are some side quests along the way. Once you make your way to certain planets during the game however you can travel back and forth between them.

Also, keep in mind: in both games, your actions dictate your alignment (you start at "neutral"). In KOTOR2, however, your actions dictate the alignment of nearly every party member (whether they are actually travelling with you or not). There are also certain characters that will join you only if your character meets certain criteria (at least in KOTOR2).

Also many Force Powers are defined as either Light or Dark Side, meaning it costs more Force for those of opposite alignment to use them, but cheaper for those of similar alignment (Healing for example is a Light Side power - there is a base Force Cost associated with it. If you're good, the cost is decreased. If you are evil, it costs more.)


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17 Mar 2009, 3:41 pm

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gismo wrote:
I saw KOTOR once in a shop and I really, really wanted it but I couldn't get it because I didn't have an Xbox and my PC wouldn't be good enough to run it. I was recently wondering if I could get it for my new PC, but it has to run on XP.

Sooo... I remembered Halo 2 and went looking on the Xbox website. Luckily for me, KOTOR2 is one of the very few games that supports backward compatibility with the Xbox 360. And I have one of those.

So I want to ask two things:
Can I join things on Xbox Live like Parties, and listen to music? Are there any problems with backward compatability.
Is KOTOR any good, and is it worth the money at the price I can get it: £5 to £10.


I couldn't tell you about Xbox Live, since I don't have an Xbox....but.....

KOTOR is fantastic! Computer Gaming World actually called it, when it first came out, "the best Star Wars game to date, and possibly one of the best RPG's ever created." I agree with that assessment.

I have both KOTOR and KOTOR2 for the PC....played KOTOR all the way through twice (once Light Side, once Dark Side). I've played through KOTOR2 once as Light Side. Had an incident a while back so I lost my old games. Probably gonna play through them again though.

If you can, I'd get them both. Well worth the investment. Not gonna reveal the story here, though. There are enough walkthroughs out there to spoil everything :)


Ok, cool. Thanks for the info. Also, Does it all follow one main storyline or can you travel to other planets as you feel like it and do side quests?


The game is largely serial, but there are some side quests along the way. Once you make your way to certain planets during the game however you can travel back and forth between them.

Also, keep in mind: in both games, your actions dictate your alignment (you start at "neutral"). In KOTOR2, however, your actions dictate the alignment of nearly every party member (whether they are actually travelling with you or not). There are also certain characters that will join you only if your character meets certain criteria (at least in KOTOR2).

Also many Force Powers are defined as either Light or Dark Side, meaning it costs more Force for those of opposite alignment to use them, but cheaper for those of similar alignment (Healing for example is a Light Side power - there is a base Force Cost associated with it. If you're good, the cost is decreased. If you are evil, it costs more.)


Ah, Ok, I get you. So how long will it take me to complete it?



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17 Mar 2009, 4:12 pm

gismo wrote:
LordKristov wrote:
gismo wrote:
LordKristov wrote:
gismo wrote:
I saw KOTOR once in a shop and I really, really wanted it but I couldn't get it because I didn't have an Xbox and my PC wouldn't be good enough to run it. I was recently wondering if I could get it for my new PC, but it has to run on XP.

Sooo... I remembered Halo 2 and went looking on the Xbox website. Luckily for me, KOTOR2 is one of the very few games that supports backward compatibility with the Xbox 360. And I have one of those.

So I want to ask two things:
Can I join things on Xbox Live like Parties, and listen to music? Are there any problems with backward compatability.
Is KOTOR any good, and is it worth the money at the price I can get it: £5 to £10.


I couldn't tell you about Xbox Live, since I don't have an Xbox....but.....

KOTOR is fantastic! Computer Gaming World actually called it, when it first came out, "the best Star Wars game to date, and possibly one of the best RPG's ever created." I agree with that assessment.

I have both KOTOR and KOTOR2 for the PC....played KOTOR all the way through twice (once Light Side, once Dark Side). I've played through KOTOR2 once as Light Side. Had an incident a while back so I lost my old games. Probably gonna play through them again though.

If you can, I'd get them both. Well worth the investment. Not gonna reveal the story here, though. There are enough walkthroughs out there to spoil everything :)


Ok, cool. Thanks for the info. Also, Does it all follow one main storyline or can you travel to other planets as you feel like it and do side quests?


The game is largely serial, but there are some side quests along the way. Once you make your way to certain planets during the game however you can travel back and forth between them.

Also, keep in mind: in both games, your actions dictate your alignment (you start at "neutral"). In KOTOR2, however, your actions dictate the alignment of nearly every party member (whether they are actually travelling with you or not). There are also certain characters that will join you only if your character meets certain criteria (at least in KOTOR2).

Also many Force Powers are defined as either Light or Dark Side, meaning it costs more Force for those of opposite alignment to use them, but cheaper for those of similar alignment (Healing for example is a Light Side power - there is a base Force Cost associated with it. If you're good, the cost is decreased. If you are evil, it costs more.)


Ah, Ok, I get you. So how long will it take me to complete it?


Depends on how hardcore you are once you get into a game. It took me a few weeks to go through each of them (I think). Good way to keep from going out and getting yourself in trouble, though. Especially since the plots, character dialogues, and endings vary with Light/Dark Side, and you can experiment with different classes and the like. There's a good bit of replayability if you like doing that sort of thing.

PS - talk to, well.....everybody you can, in game. I don't remember quest givers being marked (it's been a while since I've played.)


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17 Mar 2009, 8:30 pm

I think it's funny that you have Darth Nihilus as your avatar but haven't played the game :)



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17 Mar 2009, 10:41 pm

Can't remember what it was but I have a brand new laptop that won't play this game. I'll reinstall it and see, maybe some of you can help?



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18 Mar 2009, 12:24 am

I have KOTOR2 on Xbox and I play it on my 360, well I don't think live effects it, and music is kind of a sore spot for playing on xbox games, whilst playing it wont let you use the music part at all only thing guide does is take you back to the menu. KOTOR2 was cool, you generaly supposed to go where you want, but often you will get stranded on one planet somehow, and you have a bunch of choices, I like to get high in jedi mind trick which in one instance alows you to stop some thugs without fighting by convincing them to jump off a platform in Nar Shadar. Customisation and unique items are a good thing, I often chose a light armour specificaly for force so my powers are not weakend, dual lightsabers one in defence one in attack, breather mask to regenerate health and dual pistols with high stunning. Also some very good characters in the game like HK-47 the single minded comedic assasin droid and Visas Marr Darth Nihlus's ex servant.


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18 Mar 2009, 3:07 am

Bataar wrote:
I think it's funny that you have Darth Nihilus as your avatar but haven't played the game :)


I knew about Nihilus before I found out about KOTOR: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Nihilus

It said on the Xbox Website that all I needed to do was put the game in the disc drive and a free update begins... This true?

So... How many times will I end up playing it through do you reckon?

Also, Thanks for the information everybody. :)



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18 Mar 2009, 4:17 am

How many times you play through depends on how much you want to go through, to tell you if you choose to be a male you will get a handmaiden with who actualy has ansestory with jedi and paying attention to her can turn her into one, femal you get some guy that studies jedi and I think can become one. Being good gets you a female bounty hunter with some usefull tricks, evil gets you a Wookie headhunter who is twisted but has some interesting insight into wookie culture. Plus you miss things about people often, like if you increase repair you can get more info from the droids, find a dark secret about a companion, turn some into jedi, and get unique dialoge from different characters, by doing meetings and cirtain circumstances, like what I am curently using as a signature. When I got my 360 to play this I got an update from a friend as I didn't have an xbox at the time, the cd I think he downloaded alowed me to play a variety of Star Wars games on my 360.


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18 Mar 2009, 11:05 am

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How many times you play through depends on how much you want to go through, to tell you if you choose to be a male you will get a handmaiden with who actualy has ansestory with jedi and paying attention to her can turn her into one, femal you get some guy that studies jedi and I think can become one. Being good gets you a female bounty hunter with some usefull tricks, evil gets you a Wookie headhunter who is twisted but has some interesting insight into wookie culture. Plus you miss things about people often, like if you increase repair you can get more info from the droids, find a dark secret about a companion, turn some into jedi, and get unique dialoge from different characters, by doing meetings and cirtain circumstances, like what I am curently using as a signature. When I got my 360 to play this I got an update from a friend as I didn't have an xbox at the time, the cd I think he downloaded alowed me to play a variety of Star Wars games on my 360.


Ok, Cool. :D



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18 Mar 2009, 2:30 pm

Actually, in KOTOR II: The Sith Lords, you can, if you go Light Side, eventually train all your buddies as Jedi (well, except HK-47, of course...). You may have to find the right conversation trees - in the refugee sector of Nar Shaddaa, talk to the two guys who keep looking funny at Atton, then ask him about his past, and be nice about it, for instance. A Darksider will not be bringing his friends along as Sith, probably out of fear of the competition.

If you're Lightside, you can also deal with those guys in Nar Shaddaa by persuading them to change their ways - gets you Light points, whereas Mind Tricking them into jumping off the edge gets you Dark.

Your companions change depending on your other choices - men get the Handmaiden, while women get the scholar on Dantooine, and Lightsiders pick up the bounty hunter on Nar Shaddaa, while Darksiders get her archenemy, the madclaw Wookiee (he hates her guts because she once saved his life, placing a lifedebt on him - he thinks the only way to rid himself of the debt is with her blood).

I find it to have a very high replay value, although you can also see the patches where the developer didn't get time to flesh out parts of the storyline because LucasArts wanted it in time for the holidays (for instance, there were supposed to be clues under the abandoned base on Telos, pointing toward the source of the HK-50 droids, but that whole storyline had to be dropped).


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20 Mar 2009, 10:11 pm

I actually want to pick this up but will it work with Vista? (I played the hell out of KOTOR during my college years but I enjoyed being the dark side)


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21 Mar 2009, 3:23 am

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I actually want to pick this up but will it work with Vista? (I played the hell out of KOTOR during my college years but I enjoyed being the dark side)


No. That was the problem I had. It's 98/ME/2000/XP.



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22 Mar 2009, 4:29 pm

What I want to mention about the turning-companions-into-Jedi thing in KotOR 2, is that if you are darkside in the game, they'll become Sith instead of Jedi. I thought that part was kind of cool. 8)


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