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skafather84
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03 Sep 2010, 2:10 pm

Might finally be coming out. Never played the Nukem games....they didn't really seem that good when I sampled 3D and I liked Doom and Wolf3D better.

But yeah....after 13 years in development, a product is finally coming out with the title "Duke Nukem Forever". I have to wonder how much was simply just re-skinning some other game to just make it a "Duke Nukem" brand considering just how long the whole thing took to come out and how many generations of games came out in between and how much games advanced.


The videos of people playing the demos at PAX, the game doesn't look like anything special. One video was downright sad because some guy was talking in hyperbole as most nerds do (I'm guilty of it, too) and he got to saying "this is a major shift in my....." and he paused and it was such a horrific pause because you can tell he can tell just how pitiful that statement is but he knows he has to finish it "....life". Then he tries to back it up with saying that the game had been in development for the majority of his cognizant life (I assume he means since he was 4 or something). Man...some people get so hyped up over the mean pithy little piece of nothing that gets released so long as it has the right name/nostalgia/camp value.

http://kotaku.com/5629655/your-first-lo ... -in-action

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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/ ... em-Forever

^Video ironically released just before Duke Nukem Forever started to really hit rumors and got confirmed as finally coming out. Hits pretty hard on what expectations should be for the game.


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03 Sep 2010, 2:27 pm

I was in middle school when they first announced that game. I was excited for it for awhile, since I loved Duke Nukem 3d, but lost interest in it after waiting for it for a few years.

I'm kind of surprised to see that it's going to be finally released. I'll probably buy it to see what it's like. For the sake of the developers, it better be one of the best games ever, otherwise there's going to be quite a backlash to this game.


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03 Sep 2010, 3:31 pm

This is from an article just put up about the demo.


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But, before all that, at the start of the demo, pull the right trigger to piss.



Yay, now most the gamers in the world can regress even further into a social state of mind of a 6 year old. As if 9 year old wasn't bad enough.


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03 Sep 2010, 3:31 pm

There is a list of things that happened since they announced the development of Duke Nukem Forever. http://duke.a-13.net/


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03 Sep 2010, 4:57 pm

And I was thinking it should be called Nuke Dukem Never, because it was never coming out.

I don't really like first-person shooters anyway so I won't be getting it. I just wanted to make that comment.



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03 Sep 2010, 10:28 pm

the big nugget you left out is that Gearbox (Brothers In Arms, Borderlands) is working on it. The great thing about this is that Randy Pitchford and some other folks there are former 3D Realms guys (3D Realms are the original Duke Nukem devs) and based off of how Borderlands was humor-wise DNF could be more of a redemption for the series than anything else.
Oh and DNF is coming out in 2011.



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04 Sep 2010, 6:12 am

Now they should call it from Duke Nukem Forever to Duke Nukem Finally.I have no interest in buying this game but good news who anticipated it.



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05 Sep 2010, 11:15 pm

skafather84 wrote:
Might finally be coming out.


Am I the only person in the world who isn't surprised? :?

skafather84 wrote:
Never played the Nukem games....they didn't really seem that good when I sampled 3D and I liked Doom and Wolf3D better.


I was never really huge into Duke 3D, but I loved the first two games to pieces (the two-dimensional platformers).

skafather84 wrote:
I have to wonder how much was simply just re-skinning some other game to just make it a "Duke Nukem" brand considering just how long the whole thing took to come out and how many generations of games came out in between and how much games advanced.


Well it seems like quite a few elements from the original 1998 project are still in the game, so...

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Yay, now most the gamers in the world can regress even further into a social state of mind of a 6 year old. As if 9 year old wasn't bad enough.


This is the main draw behind Duke 3D (and possibly every Duke game afterwards), so if that's not your sort of thing, then Forever will certainly not be for you.


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05 Sep 2010, 11:28 pm

SabbraCadabra wrote:
This is the main draw behind Duke 3D (and possibly every Duke game afterwards), so if that's not your sort of thing, then Forever will certainly not be for you.



Only draw. And the new's only draw will be nostalgia.


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06 Sep 2010, 7:10 am

DNF and Daikatana were both supposed to be released in 1998. When it was finally released in 2000 after missing several deadlines, Daikatana was terrible. Now DNF is going to be released 13 years late? Somehow I don't see this one being any better.

The sad thing is, according to some of the developers, they had a really, really good game a decade ago that was about ready to go to testing. But the guys in charge of the project wouldn't let it out the door until it was perfect. Which seems even more ridiculous when you consider that these are the same guys who put together all of Duke Nukem 3D's game content in a matter of months.



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06 Sep 2010, 1:10 pm

I have faith in Gearbox and they also bought the Duke Nukem license from 3DRealms so it'll be interesting where they take the series.



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06 Sep 2010, 2:44 pm

scubasteve wrote:
DNF and Daikatana were both supposed to be released in 1998. When it was finally released in 2000 after missing several deadlines, Daikatana was terrible. Now DNF is going to be released 13 years late? Somehow I don't see this one being any better.


I don't really get why DNF gets all the flak...Prey was in development for around 11 years and I've never ever heard anybody badmouth it *shrugs*

I guess it's because Duke is a much bigger name...people are going to play the original games (and the countless spinoffs) and put these really huge expectations on what a sequel should be.

Which, in these days of graphics over substance, missing the mark is going to be rather unavoidable.

But we'll see.


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06 Sep 2010, 2:50 pm

Every four years, there are presidential elections, World Cups, and a new announcement that DNF will be coming out soon. It's the circle of life... :lol:

Also, has anyone noticed that Duke Nukem Forever's initials are the same as a Did Not Finish in NASCAR? I lol'd when I realized that.


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06 Sep 2010, 3:12 pm

SabbraCadabra wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Never played the Nukem games....they didn't really seem that good when I sampled 3D and I liked Doom and Wolf3D better.


I was never really huge into Duke 3D, but I loved the first two games to pieces (the two-dimensional platformers).


I liked the original platformer games too.



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06 Sep 2010, 4:58 pm

SabbraCadabra wrote:
I don't really get why DNF gets all the flak...Prey was in development for around 11 years and I've never ever heard anybody badmouth it *shrugs*


That's a good point. Same development company too, and the final product ended up being pretty decent. Different circumstances though. Unlike DNF, which went from game engine to game engine for no good reason, Prey actually stuck with an engine that wouldn't work for too long. The portal technology that was so integral to the game design just wasn't ready yet in the 1990s. When they finally scrapped everything and started over with the Doom 3 engine, everything went smoothly and they met their next release date. When DNF scrapped everything to switch to the Unreal engine... well, that was in 1998.



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16 Oct 2010, 10:15 pm

I think the sensibilities of the gaming industry have moved on quite a bit in the last 13 years. While Duke Nukem 3D was pretty groundbreaking for its time, by modern standards, it's a fairly standard action shooter with some mildly clever characterization and a nonexistent plot. If Duke Nukem Forever just ends up being a technologically updated version of Duke Nukem 3D, I think it will be a massive disappointment. The little bit of gameplay I saw looked like a very unsophisticated sort of shoot-em-up with very little in the way of innovation. I fear the publisher will try to rely on the Duke Nukem name to gain peoples' interest while releasing a subpar game.


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