Anti-manga/anime/videogame law passed in Japan (+ petition)
Not just in Sweden and soon to be Europe (unless opposed) (http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt152107.html).
...You kind of start to ask if they are working together, against it?
Copied from MangaFox's news section (http://forums.mangafox.com/showthread.php?t=231578):
Tokyo’s ban on anime, manga and games featuring “virtual crimes” or which are “likely to interfere with the healthy development of youth” has passed after the DPJ agreed to support it.
The DPJ’s only addition to the critical portion of the law was a short rider which requests “prudent application of the law in light of any artistic, social, scientific or satirical merits the work might express” – it does not however add any legal obligation to consider these, or establish any clear or indepdently enforced criteria for judging whether a work can be declared “harmful” or not.
Even more bizarrely, the final draft actually removed a passage that imposed “a duty not to possess [photographic] child pornography” on Tokyo residents, whilst leaving the section banning erotic manga and anime (and explicitly excluding photographic materials) all but unchanged – that the bill is intended exclusively as an “anti-otaku” law seems to be beyond doubt.
It is very difficult to objectively assess the scope of the law – along with vague and subjective terms like “interfere with the healthy development of youth,” the law also includes “etc.” on the end of most of its examples, leaving it quite unclear, for example, whether the “improper glorification of illegal sexual activity, etc.” applies to only virtual sex crimes, or all crimes in general – presumably the interpretation adopted will be whichever is convenient to censors.
Similarly, the ban’s mention of “rape and other sexual acts which violate societal norms” seems inevitably to point to a ban on depictions of homosexuality, considering who was behind the law.
The generally expected form the law will take is that of a “amakudari” (a pervasive system of sinecures for retired bureaucrats) body which will inspect all anime, manga and games, with only those titles receiving approval as “healthy” able to be sold regularly in Tokyo shops – the rest will be relegated to the “adult corner.”
The most immediate and direct effect of the law will almost certainly be to see ecchi manga such as To Love-Ru, bishoujo titles such as Champion Red and most BL manga, as well as any seinen manga with especially mature themes, banned from general sales – presumably most will then be cancelled due to a lack of suitable magazine or tankobon distribution channels, with a few perhaps being resurrected as 18+ ero-manga.
As has already been seen, publishers will also likely be purging future anime, manga and games of any content liable to fall foul of the law, and removing older titles from distribution.
The law probably also spells the end of most late night anime in Tokyo (and by extension, everywhere else), which it would appear to ban under its distribution clause; given the vague wording of the current season alone it seems Ore no Imouto, Panty & Stocking, Yosuga, Sora no Otoshimono, Milky Holmes and others would all fall foul of its various stipulations.
There is also some doubt as to whether Comiket will be able to be held under the new regulations – if not, its cancellation or removal to another prefecture seems likely, although a lack of sufficiently large spaces may severely complicate this.
The law comes into effect in July of 2011, so with magazine, tankobon, anime and game release schedules being what they are, it seems likely its effects will be felt much sooner; in a genuinely democratic state there might be scope to overturn it before then, but from what has been seen so far it seems unlikely publishers have the guts or savvy to do anything about it.
this whole thing means: no more ecchi, or scenes depicting rape. OR any manga depicting school girls in their uniforms will be illegal.
the man who will pass the bill...by the way, who says that otaku and homosexuals are a 'discrace to japan', also says that school uniforms will be banned from manga as well
read this
Tokyo’s ban on sex in anime, manga and games is not even law yet, but already mangaka are reporting publishers refusing to publish works set in schools or featuring school uniforms, with previously published works even in danger of having their reprints cancelled.
BL mangaka Shouko Takaku complains that her (unidentified, but “unfortunately not small”) publisher told her to stop using school trappings in her manga:
[INDENT]I was bluntly told the other day “because of the Tokyo ordinance, please stop using high school students [in your manga].” Depending on the label it seems you can’t even draw school uniforms…”
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Yes, I was really shocked – I was astonished and responded “Really? Really? It’s come to that now already?”
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She comments that she expects the industry’s recent decline will only be accelerated by the introduction of the ban.
Another BL mangaka, Kanako Meiji, reports her publisher is considering cancelling a reprint of her works:[INDENT]What’s going to happen? A new edition of one of my titles was due to be published in April, but now it’s under deliberation. It has lots of sex and minors. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s cancelled.
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Japan’s secret police force subsequently became notorious as “thought police,” and later revisions saw the law expanded to cover more types of thought crime and the right of appeal revoked. Only the American invasion saw them abolished.
Then, just as now, a vaguely worded law allowed authorities to intimidate into silence all those they did not lock up directly – a fate which seems likely to befall all publishers of anime, manga and games in Japan.
it seems will recieve no more school comedys.....what do you all think of this.
source of info is on sankakucomplex.com
A petition against this can be found here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/bill156/petition.html
I agree with that law up to a certain degree.
You may know that there are some very disturbing manga out there.. im not talking the well known girl in schoolgirl uniform type thing getting fondled by an octopus monster.. i'm talking about the ones that show adults stalking/torturing/raping women and young girls; about the ones that glorify serial killers in incredibly disturbing and realistic ways (not Johny the homicidal maniac type cartoon.. these mangas are life-like, very realistic portrayals)...among a few examples.
Those type of stuff .. should seriously be banned from being accessible at every bookstore or manga shop..that stuff should be catalog order so it can be tracked, traced and overall out of the hands of socially repressed, sexually frustrated teens and adults that are the target market of these things.
The problem is that some people think that they should have total freedom and have "rights" to x, y and z. The problem is if I was to indulge my urges thinking that I have a right to do whatever I like then it will very rapidly harm others and infringe their "rights". What is needed is a reasonable balance in society.
For example someone might tell you that you have the "right to a healthy happy sex life", this does not mean you have the right to have sex anywhere, anytime and anyhow you choose. The person who you want to have sex with has also a right, a right to say "no".
The problem with porn is that it has been hard over the years to get good evidence to show if the existance of porn causes the incidence of serious sexual crime to increase or decrease in society. It is interesting to note that in the trial associated with an exceptionally dire sexual crime (the murder of Jane Longhurst by Graham Coutts) it was found that Coutts had been a very regular user of very violent porn.
If we consider the cost / reward of such porn, then I would argue that if outlawing such violent porn saves on average 1 life per 1000 years then it is a good choice to ban such porn.
Furthermore extream forms of porn are likely to offend the morals of many people, I am sure that the OP might be offended by something in the world. Would the OP want that thing which he is offended by most to be paraded on his front door step. I would say that as part of our efforts to create and maintain a morally decent society that we need to outlaw the production, use, ownership and supply of porn which includes photos, film or pseduophotographs of sexual acts which include "children, animals and serious criminal acts".
I will not be lending any support to a campaign aganist the proposed law in Japan, the only thing I see wrong with the law is that it is overdue. A ban should have been imposed already.
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One of the sites I visit on an often basis has been following this quite often, looks like it is largely about the govenor being yet another person whos views are that he should put his opinons on everyone else, and want to control what the youth should watch, even into their 20s as they are all young to them. It is kind of funny as apparently this person used to write rape novels. It feels awefull that just one govenor can push his view into law, and then it is going to be forced upon the rest of Japan, and then going to send showckwaves everywhere.
I agree that there are some bad manga out there, and some anime might cross the line every so often, but from what I am aware many of some of my favourite shows over the last few years. Apparently some mangaka and companies are trying to rebel by reducing their exportation advertising, though he has been a bit two-face about it.
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Shintarô Ishihara, the "respectable" man behind the bill:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shintar& ... ected=true
My guess: You have never watched almost any anime or read almost any manga, you do not know what most of the Japanese terms there mean, and you're a homophobe, among other things... if you read it all? If you did not read it all, and/or did not understand the meaning of all that is written, then why did you comment?
I honestly don't know what all this controversy related to the law is all about. From what I understand of it, all it is doing is restricting pornographic nime/mange to ages 18+, which is done for other media in both Japan (presumably) and many countries across the world. I really don't get why it's such a big deal...
No, it is restricting almost everything to the 18+ corner, like the manga/anime 'Death Note' to almost any manga or anime that even twelve-year-olds were perfectly legally allowed to watch or read, even here in Sweden, before, like 'Kare ~ First Love' or whatever else. What that means is that they won't sell enough, and if it does not sell enough then bye bye it goes. It's pretty much the end of manga and anime and exceptional amounts of videogames - ones with illegal activity in them will also be restricted. What games are without that, at least somewhere? They don't even have to be violent for that to be present.
No, it is restricting almost everything to the 18+ corner, like the manga/anime 'Death Note' to almost any manga or anime that even twelve-year-olds were perfectly legally allowed to watch or read, even here in Sweden, before, like 'Kare ~ First Love' or whatever else. What that means is that they won't sell enough, and if it does not sell enough then bye bye it goes. It's pretty much the end of manga and anime and exceptional amounts of videogames - ones with illegal activity in them will also be restricted. What games are without that, at least somewhere? They don't even have to be violent for that to be present.
Yeah, going by the "illegal actibity" thing, then Mario would probably be rated 18+ for animal cruelty due to his abuse of Goombas and Koopas. And seriously, it's as if they rated Death Note 18+ purely based on the fact it has the word "death" in its title.
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Also from my understanding it is also along the lines of banning having underaged people in situations that may be sexual situations. An outcry to that might sound a bit strange, many frown in that in the first place, but is not as criminal as it sounds, I probably can not explain it well, but it would drains all the fun out and it never hurt anyone (except from a few exceptional crazies).
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shintar& ... ected=true
My guess: You have never watched almost any anime or read almost any manga, you do not know what most of the Japanese terms there mean, and you're a homophobe, among other things... if you read it all? If you did not read it all, and/or did not understand the meaning of all that is written, then why did you comment?
Kindly do not throw mud, I am not a bigot. I happen to have friends and I know people in my profession who happen to be gay. My attitude is that as long as I do not have to join in they can do whatever they like in private. I say "live and let live".
Out of interest what are the among other things ? My advice to you is to think long and hard before you choose to answer (or maybe not to answer). Russell Crowe uttered the phrase "What We Do In Life Echoes In Eternity", I would like to remind you that what you write on wrongplanet (or the internet in general) also echoes in eternity. My advice to you is not to write something which may come back to trouble you later in life.
I am not a great fan of manga, but I think that I should still be allowed to have a point of view on the use of dirty pictures of children. I imagine that you are not a police officer but you still would feel free to have a point of view on a hypothetical corrupt cop who tries to extort money from random drivers.
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My only regret in life is when I accused a friend of having used me for my money, when she really was just doing very poorly, with me misunderstanding the situation, and now she is dead.
I do not regret meeting you with disrespect. And I'll pass on that advice since I do not need it; especially not from you. And I will likely be dead, more or less soon, anyway, so if I get troubled with something, it won't be for long.
Ok. You did not understand what you read, then? Good that that was clarified.
It seems the publishers' boycott of the Tokyo International Anime Fair is having an effect:
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2011/02/1 ... rn-to-taf/
(Beware: Adult content on site)
This after he previously expressed, "Who cares if they come or not, they'll be back next year. For all I care they can stay away forever." - What a pathetic man! I guess he and his drones maybe realized that they won't get taxes from these companies if the companies don't get incomes. Seems like there is hope, after all! ^_^
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Yeah you will find a lot there on that subject Beauty_pact, just be carefull to take everything with a grain of salt, and beware of the dark side. Actually I think I referenced some of it before.
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