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08 Mar 2011, 10:11 pm

http://www.destructoid.com/using-piracy-devices-could-brick-your-nintendo-3ds-195895.phtml

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Using piracy devices could brick your Nintendo 3DS

We have touched the Nintendo 3DS and piracy before, but even some of our own staff members here at Destructoid were surprised when they heard what could happen to their shiny new glasses-free 3D game system in recent tips, so we thought we might cover it as its own news item.

Know that the Nintendo 3DS logs every cartridge you put into it. An image of my own play history can be seen in the image above. The moment you push a cartridge in the system, it pops up on this list, and there's nothing you can do to change this list, let alone clear it.

Those not concerned with piracy see it is a cool feature, as it logs your play time and date, and can even sort all your played games to tell you which ones you play the most. The flip side of this is that the system 'knows' what you've put into it. So, if you put an R4 or other piracy device into it, it'll know. Nintendo will know.

Nintendo is now making it clear here in Japan that they'll disable any 3DS with illegal games on it. Call it a remote bricking. A system update could easily shut your 3DS down. The 3DS and its always-on wireless ability make fun things like Street Pass possible, but it also gives your system automatic access to hot spots and access points. Updates can come in automatically, as you're always 'on.' Maybe Nintendo is watching you, gamer.

GoNintendo points us to a Japanese retailer that warns of this bricking by firmware update. The store also says that they won't buy systems with a record of illegal equipment use.

The 3DS actually logs every single thing you do, even beyond what games you're playing. You can actually go into your history and see how many steps you took on each day. A system that knows every step you've taken? I don't think piracy is going to be that easy on a system like this.


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08 Mar 2011, 10:41 pm

Owned. So glad I'm not a portable game fanboy anymore.


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09 Mar 2011, 12:14 am

I'll keep my 300 bucks, thanks.



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09 Mar 2011, 12:15 am

$300? You could buy 2 psps for that!


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09 Mar 2011, 6:13 pm

As I said in reply to this on N-Europe... just pasting as I have no energy to retype anything of it:

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To DarkPGR3 who, over and over, keeps mentioning that "unauthorized" hardware breaks the EULA, so that they therefore can do this. Wrong. The EULA has no legal significance in most countries; the companies merely put them there to scare people. Read up on law a bit before you make such statements. And to add to that, flash cards also are legal in many countries. A false contract apparently overrides real law, in DarkPGR3's opinion, and in the opinion of Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony and many other companies. Repeat a lie enough times and people will start believing it, and stop questioning it.

"The more they screw thieves, the better for us gamers." ...Hmm, yeah, except for homebrew software that is absolutely awesome at times, and except that these measures will, either by purpose or mistake, by default also target people who use this hardware to play games from regions other than their own. Why should I get my Nintendo 3DS bricked when I *bought* the games from Japan or the US, and used hardware or software modifications to be able to play them, because of Nintendo's region coding? This is completely unacceptable. I have more games than pretty much anyone, and have been looking forward to the 3DS, but in light of this rumour that, unfortunately, likely will turn out to be true, I will, to be on the safe side, instead sell my booked Nintendo 3DS, since I will be getting it for rather cheap, due to having booked it so early. If these measures do not become realized, after all, I will buy the 3DS at a later point, instead. If, however, they do become realized, as I guess is to be expected, I will do without it and buy manga and anime for my money, instead.


(As for the last part.... yeah, I'd do that if it wouldn't be for that most of the manga and anime I like now is illegal in Sweden, and soon will be in the whole EU, and maybe with even more stringent laws being realized in Japan, soon.... all my interests are taken away from me. Yay for my life.)



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16 Mar 2011, 1:53 am

I don't really care about privacy too much, if someone wants to find information about me, they will find it, no matter how hard I try to stop them. Of course there are ways to reduce my information footprint, but for something like the 3DS, it doesn't seem sinister, say in comparisson to Facebook.

They'll find out that I walk too much, I like playing diner dash and art academy, big whoop.



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16 Mar 2011, 1:56 am

Beauty_pact wrote:
As I said in reply to this on N-Europe... just pasting as I have no energy to retype anything of it:

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To DarkPGR3 who, over and over, keeps mentioning that "unauthorized" hardware breaks the EULA, so that they therefore can do this. Wrong. The EULA has no legal significance in most countries; the companies merely put them there to scare people. Read up on law a bit before you make such statements. And to add to that, flash cards also are legal in many countries. A false contract apparently overrides real law, in DarkPGR3's opinion, and in the opinion of Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony and many other companies. Repeat a lie enough times and people will start believing it, and stop questioning it.

"The more they screw thieves, the better for us gamers." ...Hmm, yeah, except for homebrew software that is absolutely awesome at times, and except that these measures will, either by purpose or mistake, by default also target people who use this hardware to play games from regions other than their own. Why should I get my Nintendo 3DS bricked when I *bought* the games from Japan or the US, and used hardware or software modifications to be able to play them, because of Nintendo's region coding? This is completely unacceptable. I have more games than pretty much anyone, and have been looking forward to the 3DS, but in light of this rumour that, unfortunately, likely will turn out to be true, I will, to be on the safe side, instead sell my booked Nintendo 3DS, since I will be getting it for rather cheap, due to having booked it so early. If these measures do not become realized, after all, I will buy the 3DS at a later point, instead. If, however, they do become realized, as I guess is to be expected, I will do without it and buy manga and anime for my money, instead.


(As for the last part.... yeah, I'd do that if it wouldn't be for that most of the manga and anime I like now is illegal in Sweden, and soon will be in the whole EU, and maybe with even more stringent laws being realized in Japan, soon.... all my interests are taken away from me. Yay for my life.)



What anime/manga do you like exaclty?? If it's hardcore, carnal hentai or something, I see that as perfectly understandable.



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24 Mar 2011, 1:20 am

rabbit90 wrote:
What anime/manga do you like exaclty?? If it's hardcore, carnal hentai or something, I see that as perfectly understandable.


What is perfectly understandable? That they are outlawing it, or that I get depressed from them outlawing it? Not that that is all that is getting outlawed; most shôjo manga in high school settings is getting outlawed, too.


In another update, Nintendo has pretty much confirmed that they are joining the ranks of Microsoft and Sony, now:

http://www.n-europe.com/news.php?nid=15166

Good thing I cancelled my order. I decided I don't even want to buy it to then just sell it, either; just permanently want nothing to do with that shìt console that never would've made me the tiniest bit happier, anyway.

What I hate the most are the dumbasses that find this to be such a great, piracy-stopping thing. I haven't pirated a single Nintendo DS game, so far, and own so many. But I also want to be able to buy games from other regions, and use homebrew. Anyone who opposes that, due to their massive stupidity, should be put to death so that they do not contaminate the gene pool - and merely also so they do not annoy me.

I guess this matters far less for me than for so many others, though... videogames never manage to keep up my interest, anymore, anyway. I focus on anime and manga, now. Unfortunately, even that is, legally, taken away from me - not that I care about the law but it will have an impact in so many ways. And it's soon happening in Japan, too, in even more stringent ways, unless the law is stopped, which I doubt it will be; most Japanese have more important things on their minds, right now. Yay for life. :/