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10 Dec 2011, 3:23 pm

I've been DM'ing a party of eight people in D&D 4th edition for three months now, every Sunday from noon till night. But i'm not really happy with the system, I hope to blend existing systems into it and removing some content that makes it more ruleplay then roleplay.

Any recommendations?


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10 Dec 2011, 4:08 pm

Wallourdes wrote:
I've been DM'ing a party of eight people in D&D 4th edition for three months now, every Sunday from noon till night. But i'm not really happy with the system, I hope to blend existing systems into it and removing some content that makes it more ruleplay then roleplay.

Any recommendations?


Ideally I would love to see a functional merger of 2nd and 3rd edition D&D. 4th edition is just horrible, really hate how everyone has healing in it.


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10 Dec 2011, 4:18 pm

Wallourdes wrote:
I've been DM'ing a party of eight people in D&D 4th edition for three months now, every Sunday from noon till night. But i'm not really happy with the system, I hope to blend existing systems into it and removing some content that makes it more ruleplay then roleplay. Any recommendations?


Switch gaming systems.

Traveller - "Science Fiction Adventure In The Far Future". The rules are simple, especially those involving character generation.

GURPS does have a fairly simple point-based char-gen system, with a dumpload of resource material covering fantasy, science-fiction, western, espionage, and other genres.

You could also fall back to 2nd Edition AD&D, but that would alienate the power-players and munchkins in your group (A Munchkin is a player who, when told that the game will take place in 15th-century Venice, asks to play a cyborg-enhanced ninja character).

You could make up your own system, which is how every RPG system started out, anyway.



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11 Dec 2011, 1:25 am

Fnord wrote:
Wallourdes wrote:
I've been DM'ing a party of eight people in D&D 4th edition for three months now, every Sunday from noon till night. But i'm not really happy with the system, I hope to blend existing systems into it and removing some content that makes it more ruleplay then roleplay. Any recommendations?


Switch gaming systems.

Traveller - "Science Fiction Adventure In The Far Future". The rules are simple, especially those involving character generation.

GURPS does have a fairly simple point-based char-gen system, with a dumpload of resource material covering fantasy, science-fiction, western, espionage, and other genres.

You could also fall back to 2nd Edition AD&D, but that would alienate the power-players and munchkins in your group (A Munchkin is a player who, when told that the game will take place in 15th-century Venice, asks to play a cyborg-enhanced ninja character).

You could make up your own system, which is how every RPG system started out, anyway.


every time we had a munchkin player running about, the rest of the party would kill the fool. (Who usually tends to ruin the story.) As for balancing out the power-players, we changed the way skill points are bought (so instead of the usual 3rd edition skill system, we modified it that you have a progressively increasing cost for going up in rank in a skill. We also put in a mana system instead of spells per day as well as a few other rebalances and modifications.) We all still prefer 2nd edition rules though, but love the multi-classing system of 3rd edition.


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11 Dec 2011, 8:38 am

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In gaming, a Munchkin is a player who plays what is intended to be a non-competitive game (usually a role-playing game) in an aggressively competitive manner. A munchkin seeks within the context of the game to amass the greatest power, score the most "kills", and grab the most loot, no matter how deleterious their actions are to role-playing, the storyline, fairness, logic, or the other players' fun. The term is used almost exclusively as a pejorative and frequently is used in reference to powergamers.


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I got at least two of these in my party, avid Munchkin players btw.
The sad thing is that D&D 4th edition is build around this kind of players.

I implemented power balancing, where every plus has it's minus and vica versa. With some reluctance they gave in.
There are rarely any negative modifiers, there isn't even a critical fumble!

There are more things, but i'll tell about later. I have an appointment to get to.


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