This is why game files need to be harder to hack.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20136922

People have hacked the borderlands 2 Xbox saves so that a secret "die and you are permanently dead" mode is activated, and activates for anyone you are playing with. Fortunately it's just for Xbox but it is very depressing to know that people still get kicks out of purposefully wrecking people's characters.

I actually kind of like this idea. In Skyrim if my character dies I delete all of my character saves and make a new one. It really made me think about my decisions and it gave more value to my character.

Yes, but you should have the choice of having this hard mode, instead of it being a virus that affects random players.

Yep I'm not disagreeing. Hackers just can't be stopped. I wonder if there is a way to find the hack in the hard drive and remove it?

Presumably, if you know how to hack a save file to access the hack in the first place. I think the biggest problem with this particular glitch is that you don't know you have it until you're dead, be that in 5 minutes, or 5 hours after playing with said glitcher, and then you've passed it on to 4, 5 other players as well.

The big problem is that multiplayer games are getting more common, and people who sit in their evil lairs plotting against our multiplayer games and trolling our games are getting more common too

Seems like you have to be really crazy to play a mmorpg these days.

hey im new here, probably the first topic i can shed some light on, because i am a hobbyist gamehacker(dont shoot me)
i usually just do it to see what i can do, and never release it to the public, and never use it online(unless its a game room full of similarly minded people doing the same thing)

they are NOT hacking your save file when this happens, they found a way to activate a scrapped 'hardcore mode' that wasnt removed for whatever reason


but the thing is, its not a hack on the hard drive, things like this are always the result of unused code left in by the development teams, its a part of the game that was scrapped for whatever reason, all the hackers do is activate it, and id bet money this only works if THEY are the host. removing the hack itself would require rewriting parts of the game itself from scratch, which costs a lot of money.
unfortunately devs today are more interested in their wallet than the gamers.

I won't.


Yes, but unfortunately if someone who had joined the hosts game who had this active, it applies itself to their game, and stays active if they leave, and join a new game.

I have no problem with people messing around with this sort of thing, he'll, I expect it's pretty fun if you're skilled! If someone introduces a game breaking glitch (well, only game breaking if you sort of suck enough to die fairly regularly, like me) which is going to spread to my game, THEN I will get angry and shoot you.

well i do it because its like a puzzle to me, i personally try to have a minimal footprint on others.
that being said, i have written some nasty codes on some older games that could be abused to an absurd degree, and the events occurring on an older game called 'diablo' have taught me that its never a good idea to give these sorts of codes out.

The reason i believe(without disecting the hack itsself ofc) that it affects people not running the hack is because the hack probably toggles hardcore mode to active for the person using it, and not much else, since bl2 is p2p that means the game creator IS the server, and the clients connecting take certain settings from them(the host), usually global game settings like difficulty, hardcore mode most definitely falls into that category, and was at some point probably a fully implemented selectable option, all they seem to have done is remove the option in the menus. the result is, connecting clients games have no code stopping the mode because they didnt count on people activating it on the console version, so the clients are effectively tricked into thinking they are hardcore characters.

for this to occur only on the xbox this feature must have been deactivated sometime AFTER it was ported to pc, because it seems completely absent there.

its unfortunate, and id imagine the original creator leaked it to someone he shouldnt have. i can only hope this is fixed sometime soon, but i honestly rather doubt it will be because it would require removing chunks of programming which may have bad effects.