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08 Feb 2014, 3:15 am

Firstly, and I probably should of made a separate topic for this but whatever.
Given that every once in a while someone will either post about a server for a game that either they run or are on, for
others on the autism spectrum or someone will ask about a server to play on.
Am I the only one who thinks it would be a good idea to make a sticky on the 'Games and Video Games' forum for them?
I mean it would make it easier for those looking to advertise their servers and those looking for them right.

Anyway on to the main point of this post, I want to ask if any of you all watch gaming streams and why?
I watch them myself so I somewhat get the appeal if your watching someone you know or one of those 'internet personalities'
to see them play and react to different games.
And even speedrunners if you want to see a game expertly crushed but sometimes well...

Not to long ago I was watch a speedrunner 'casually' playing a certain RPG that I like very much for the first time.
The problem with this was that he was 'playing it' like a speedrunner would, skipping through text as fast as possible and the
like, and then when he did not understand something happening in the story or he did not know where to go he would
proceed to badmouth the game as if it was at fault for him not paying attention.
I seen this more then a few times now and it's really annoying every time.

Anyway I'm just curious on your thoughts about these things.
Thank you for taking the time to read this post.
Have a nice day.



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10 Feb 2014, 7:18 pm

First off, yes, a sticky would be great...

Now the main thing. I don't like watching streams. A lot of the players will often rage a lot and just have a general Toxic attitude towards the game. I've noticed this when i did try watching League of Legends streamers (i also noticed a few female players using their body and the theory of "Thirst" to their advantage to gain more money... kind of a cheap trick putting bait in front of geeks...) but there were often players just sitting their whining about how they could have won the last game if their team just shut up and let them take the lead... <--- not the correct attitude to have towards games.

On a different note, i do watch youtube videos of pre recorded gameplay (i.e. CaptainSparkles, Pewdiepie, Yogscast, Node) and it's often a lighter attitude due to the cutting and editing but mostly because these players aren't geniuses at the games, it's funny to watch them fail. I try to steer clear of ragers nowerdays. they bring the mood down and yeh... I don't tolerate that sort of behavior. I mean seriously, if something happens in a game that causes you to lose or the like, it's because you were inept at noticing a mistake you made and there is no one else to blame but yourself (which happens a lot when i play LoL as the support. If i die and save my team from death, that's cool but there was probably a better way of doing it and I can only blame myself for not reacting fast enough). More people need to take on this mind set and that way, the gaming community will go from people shouting at each other (excess of Ponies too) to people apologizing every few seconds because they missed a minion...


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11 Feb 2014, 4:58 am

I've never watched a stream of a multiplayer game before because I always thought they would be just as you described.
I mean every once in a while I'd come across a story about some one who while losing in an MMO or other type of multiplayer
game, would go of the deep end just because they lost or something so I just kind of assumed those streams would be that way.
As for the female players doing the 'theory of thirst' thing, well I don't think I have ever come across that and if I have it probably
just went over my head.

Some of the youtube videos feel somewhat lacking to me, I mean when it's a review it works but when their trying to play a game
well I think you need to see the failures to better enjoy their play.
There is a streamer who is not very good at games and she knows it and does not go nuclear when she loses or gets stuck, which
happens a lot.

She was playing Thousand Arms, an RPG on the ps1, and she got lost in the first dungeon for about two hours.
Now I've never played or seen that game before but I do have a very good memory and sense of direction which while it does
not always translate well to a game in this case did and I figured out where she needed to go very early.
I did not tell her of course but when she finally did manage to find her way through I could really fell the relief and sense of
accomplishment she had for doing it herself.
I mean it made me track down a copy of the game and buy it which thinking about I should probably get around to playing it.



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11 Feb 2014, 5:42 am

^^ Just to clarify, If I hadn't already >..>, the "Theory of Thirst" (or at least, that's what i call it...) Is where a Female player Would use their "Attractiveness" to win over their audience. In a game that is heavily dominated by male players, this is a very powerful tool seeing as it's most likely the closest they'll get to girls in a long time. It can happen the other way around with males appealing to females. If you watch twitch.tv, you'll notice you can pay donations to the streamers. Surprisingly often, On the female gamers streams, you'll notice hundreds of £ and/or $ being given while in comparison, the players who are actually playing the game and teaching you their little shortcuts will be earning chump change.

also, it's funny you say that about getting a game and not playing it ^.^" i've still got a list of games on steam that i need to play >,.,>


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11 Feb 2014, 6:20 am

I watch Youtubers, I have no interest in watching steams.

I watch Pewdiepie if I want to laugh and not really get much into the game at all. Usually I'll watch him play games I have no intention of ever playing, (really short ones etc).

I watch TheRPGMinx and TheRadBrad for being more immersed in the game while having some commentary. Sometimes they're funny, sometimes it's just interesting to hear what they have to say. Although lately I haven't been watching TheRadBrad because he's been playing too many of the mainstream games, and I'm much more interested in indie games. When he didn't have as many subscribers he would play more indie games, but since he hit 2 million subscribers (and there's rumor whether he signed an agreement with xbox or not) he has only been playing mainstream games... Which I don't watch because I either 1) Plan on buying the game myself and don't want any spoilers or 2) I'm not interested in that game at all so I obviously don't want to watch a gameplay of it.

TheRPGMinx is the one I watch the most since she plays mostly indie games.

If the person winds up playing a game I think I might want to play I'll stop watching it after a couple of vids so I don't spoil it too much for myself. Otherwise if they're games I know I'll never buy (or buy maybe 5 years later) I'll go ahead and watch.

One of the guys I used to watch all the time died last month actually. I had been watching his videos for 3 years. It was sad.



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12 Feb 2014, 3:36 am

I have far too many games I need to play now, it feels like such a long time ago when I last had nothing new to play.

Pewdiepie... I don't like him, he's too loud and his voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me.
Though on 'youtube let's players to recommend' I put forward Zemalf who I actually found out about through steam
when in the 'recent news' section for xcom: enemy unknown they reported on his perfect impossible ironman run.
I mean even knowing how it will end it's still fun to watch to see how unbelievably lucky he his.