One reason why I don't really play video games anymore

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30 Nov 2013, 11:41 am

It has to do with levelling up. So if you don't do any levelling up, you go through with lots of paths and options closed to you and things become more difficult; if you do some repetitive levelling up then yeah things get easier but you spend a lot of time repeating stuff, going through the same boring motions over and over again; and if you wanna play in God mode, you gotta do a whole lotta levelling up, a whole lot of repetitition, where you basically spend most of your life doing this, and what if you lose your game or something?

This is one reason why I'm starting to see video games as becoming more and more pointless.


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30 Nov 2013, 11:45 am

Another reason is cost. It just costs too much to buy and play video games. I may play an old ROM on an emulator or something, but I do have trouble branching out to new things, so it would just be the old things. I'm trying to finance gender transition here and since as of yet I'm not getting any help on the big stuff, I can't afford to buy and play video games.


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30 Nov 2013, 11:48 am

You don't play RPGs (or games in general) just to level up. If you don't enjoy the gameplay mechanics that are used during the normal progression of the game, of course repetition is going to make it boring.

The idea behind leveling up and unlocking weapons/fighters is getting more options and increasing the variety of gameplay the more you play a game. Some games do this more successfully than others. If you don't look forward to the new stuff, it's not that integer going up by 1 that's going to appeal to you.

edit: To sum it up, try other game genres.



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30 Nov 2013, 12:24 pm

I think its ridiculous how pricey so many systems and games are becoming. The PS4 is current at $900, with the XBox One at $1,000...what the hell?!

To their credit, Nintendo's been pretty good at keeping their costs low, and the Wii-U continues that tradition with a $300 tag...but I find myself wondering if a day will come when $1,000 is truly considered reasonable by the masses.


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30 Nov 2013, 12:46 pm

Another issue is that I generally only want to play games in Japanese, and not in English, but it's much more expensive to get games in a language not of your region because of the way they separate the markets. I'm not happy that video game makers do this.

Another issue is that I don't really know about any new video games. Probably the latest new video game I've completed was Mugen no Sunadokei, when I beat the Japanese version before the English version The Phantom Hourglass came out, back in 2007--I had bought it while I was in Japan, back when on the handheld systems there were no region restrictions, which are now on the newer handhelds--another fact I'm not happy about. (I thought it was a fun game and good Japanese practice.) Past that, I hardly even know of any and I'm not even that interested to find out. I don't really watch TV except TV Japan, which doesn't really advertise video games. I remember being bored as heck with games like Halo, though I did enjoy Goldeneye 007 for the N64 years back.

So I don't know. I used to be big into video games, especially back in the 90s and early naughts, but I guess I've just now grown apart from them due to several factors, such as starting to find some of them tediously repetitive, to find them expensive resulting in opportunity costs of gender transition, to get annoyed with the way regions are split even more so now than in the past (why?) making it to where you often can't play them in the language you want, and I don't really know any of the new ones and none that I've heard of really pique my interest.

I remember thinking a few years back, how great it would be if I could just go to work and be dumb and happy when I come home, just playing Warcraft or something, spending all my free-time doing that but, alas, due to the various factors listed above, it was not to be.


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30 Nov 2013, 1:04 pm

Moviefan2k4 wrote:
I think its ridiculous how pricey so many systems and games are becoming. The PS4 is current at $900, with the XBox One at $1,000...what the hell?!

To their credit, Nintendo's been pretty good at keeping their costs low, and the Wii-U continues that tradition with a $300 tag...but I find myself wondering if a day will come when $1,000 is truly considered reasonable by the masses.


This is called inflation. To be fair, the PS4 is 400 USD, though. The Wii-U is only 30-40% more powerful than the PS3, which explains the low price tag.



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30 Nov 2013, 3:05 pm

$900 for a PS4? I could've sworn it was closer to $400 here.

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It has to do with levelling up. So if you don't do any levelling up, you go through with lots of paths and options closed to you and things become more difficult;


Leveling up is actually of the fun things, at least IMO.



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30 Nov 2013, 3:30 pm

Sometimes I get to a state of mind where video games just bore me to death. New games, old favorites, it doesn't matter. But a month or two without gaming is enough to bring me back to the fold.



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30 Nov 2013, 4:01 pm

I play video games but actually haven't loaded any up in weeks because of this lingering depression. I just don't feel like playing any. I'd rather just sleep to pass the time.

In any case, I'm hoping all of this "down-ness" is transitory and I'll be back to playing games (Dishonored, Metro Last Light, MOH Warfighter, BioShock Infinite) soon.



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30 Nov 2013, 4:31 pm

micfranklin wrote:
$900 for a PS4? I could've sworn it was closer to $400 here.
I got my numbers from Amazon late last night, so they were probably skewed as a result.

I waited over 5 years before finally getting a Wii, mostly because of the price tag and lack of games that interested me. I've always been much more into "Mario" and "Zelda" than sports games or battle simulations.


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30 Nov 2013, 4:40 pm

staremaster wrote:
Sometimes I get to a state of mind where video games just bore me to death. New games, old favorites, it doesn't matter. But a month or two without gaming is enough to bring me back to the fold.


I was like that a few years ago, but overall it's become less and less common for me to play video games.

Nevertheless, I still enjoy the music from the old video games I used to enjoy. Like Nobuo Uematsu and stuff, I will play that music over and over again. Right now I'm into FFIX's Main Battle Theme and Final Fantasy Legend II (SaGa 2)'s Boss Theme, both of which were composed by Nobuo Uematsu. For that boss theme, I totally get the angry, this mf'er has been committing heinous crimes, abusing the powers he/she has, and is all smug about it and you've now got a chance to take the mf'er down!


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30 Nov 2013, 4:45 pm

Moviefan2k4 wrote:
micfranklin wrote:
$900 for a PS4? I could've sworn it was closer to $400 here.
I got my numbers from Amazon late last night, so they were probably skewed as a result.

I waited over 5 years before finally getting a Wii, mostly because of the price tag and lack of games that interested me. I've always been much more into "Mario" and "Zelda" than sports games or battle simulations.


I'm kinda the same way, though my perfectionism did me in on the New Super Mario Bros. game. Nevertheless, I remember enjoying Monkey Ball back in the early naughts with a friend.


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30 Nov 2013, 6:35 pm

Moviefan2k4 wrote:
I think its ridiculous how pricey so many systems and games are becoming. The PS4 is current at $900, with the XBox One at $1,000...what the hell?!

To their credit, Nintendo's been pretty good at keeping their costs low, and the Wii-U continues that tradition with a $300 tag...but I find myself wondering if a day will come when $1,000 is truly considered reasonable by the masses.



The price is presently artificially inflated.
This is because prior to launch suppliers would guarantee that buyers who pre-ordered would get the console before christmas.
If you order now (just after launch) then very few suppliers (if any) will guarantee that.
Many consumers have an obsession with buying things before Christmas, which has resulted in many suppliers charging insane prices for the next generation consoles after the launch date.

At any rate, it has always bee the case that consoles which have only just been released cost a huge amount.
The SEGA Saturn used to cost about £450, you know... when it was new.
Same goes for the Playstation and PS2.
All of these had a lower price point on launch, but the prices were pushed up by many stores when demand exceeded supply.

There will always be impatient, rich or very indulgent people who are prepared to pay a fortune for newly produced electronic items.
Of course, there is always the "sucker parent / overindulged child" effect to consider.... because many parents are perfectly willing to pay extortionate fees for whatever their children wish to have for Christmas.

As bare bones new consoles, according to Amazon the Xbone is £430, the PS4 is £350 and the Wii-U is £230
Of course, all three consoles contain radically different technology... which goes some way towards setting the retail prices.

The SEGA megadrive was £190 on launch, but the technology used to produce those was (even by 1998 standards) much cheaper than the technology used to produce modern consoles is by present standards.



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30 Nov 2013, 6:57 pm

Perhaps you should play games where you have more control over what concerns almost every aspect of it.

For me, UT99 (or UT2004) + custom content + a slight knowledge of coding and texturing = WIN.



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30 Nov 2013, 7:54 pm

Stuff like this is exactly why I dont do consoles anymore, and have switched to PC gaming. The extreme variety of things that can be found on there.... as opposed to the stale repetition of trends that is console gaming.... plus the sheer number of available games, plus the very low cost (if the game in question HAS a cost at all, many PC games dont).... all in all, it's just been better in every possible way.

One of the biggest problems with the consoles is that developers have to stick to certain repetetive ideas in order to sell their products.... or at least this is what they believe, anyway. So you see so many FPS games trying to be Halo, so many RPGs trying to be Final Fantasy, and in general everything cloning everything else, very few games that try anything new because the sheer absurd cost of development on there is just too high to take risks. Wheras on PC..... that stuff is not an issue. Anyone can make a PC game, and it doesnt have to have batshit insane development costs, so new ideas are extremely frequent.


Though I will say I dont do games in Japanese, really. Cant read a word of it. I'll get imports every now and then, generally shmups, which is the single remaining reason why I own a 360 anymore (which is a JP unit), but.... those dont need to be in English, and yet often ARE in English, for reasons I'll never understand.



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30 Nov 2013, 10:05 pm

There's plenty of variety in console games and their genres, but you do have to look beyond the path beaten by the mainstream crowd in order to find them.