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05 Sep 2014, 9:13 pm

Let's talk Castlevania, shall we?

Who here on WP likes Castlevania?



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05 Sep 2014, 10:04 pm

I've gotten through over 20 different Castlevania games which isn't all of them obviously.

The best one in the entire series is "Castlevania:The Adventure" for the old b/w Nintendo Gameboy. lol j/k



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05 Sep 2014, 10:15 pm

Let's see...my first Castlevania game was Circle of the Moon or Harmony of Dissonance(can't remember which.) Then I got Aria of Sorrow and some time later Curse of Darkness, Order of Ecclesia and Portrait of Ruin. I also have Lament of Innocence, but I haven't been able to get too far in it.



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05 Sep 2014, 10:24 pm

My favorite 3D one is "Castlevania:Lords of Shadow" for PS3(got the platinum). And my favorite side-scroller in the series is "Super Castlevania:IV" originally on the SNES.

Just got "Castlevania:Lords of Shadow 2" for PS3 used for like $11, but I haven't played it much yet. Supposed to be be not nearly as good as the first PS3 game though...



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05 Sep 2014, 10:33 pm

I...have mixed feelings about LoS since I'm not a big fan of reboots but at the same time Castlevania's old enough to warrant one. Maybe I'm just upset that they're abandoning the original timeline. We still don't know what happened with the 1999 incident Julius mentions in Aria.

Maybe I'm just easily entertained but I like Curse of Darkness. I dunno, maybe I'm just a sucker for the Pokemon-like mechanic of the Innocent Devils.



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05 Sep 2014, 10:45 pm

Not sure if they're totally abandoning the original timeline or not, but the 3 games in the LOS series(including the 3DS game) mention and/or include major characters from the older games such as Simon Belmont, Trevor Belmont, Alucard, etc.



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05 Sep 2014, 10:55 pm

S'not the same, though :<



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05 Sep 2014, 11:51 pm

Yeah, I like Castlevania for the most part. Specifically the originals (particularly the first), or the ones that made "Metroidvania" a thing.

The 3D ones? Yeah, how about no. I have the same response to those that I had to Metroid Prime (which I loathe with a passion), which is to generally pretend that they dont exist. This sort just isnt Castlevania for me. And no, "but the story!" isnt a reason that'd ever work for me, as I typically consider story to be by far the least important part of any game. I play these for the actual gameplay. If there is a somewhat decent story (which I find to be very, very rare in games as a whole), it's a little bonus at least, but it sure as hell isnt a reason for me to specifically play a particular game. If I'm very specifically looking for satisfying stories, I have endless books to read. As far as I'm concerned, the storyline to these games is "Dracula has risen! He is a jerk. Go flatten him."



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06 Sep 2014, 1:08 am

I love most of the Metroidvania style games, particularly Symphony of the Night and Aria of Sorrow ( sadly, I have yet to play Dawn of Sorrow... ). I also enjoy Harmony of Despair, the multiplayer game on PSN & XBLA ( I tend to play as Soma or Alucard ).

I'm still hoping to one day play Smash Bros as either Alucard ( first appeared in Castlevania III for NES ), Soma Cruz or Simon Belmont


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06 Sep 2014, 5:17 am

I like most of the CV games, but I didn't like the 3D one for the XBox (not 360) at all. And while I do like the MetroidVania games (though I would really like to explore something other than Drac's castle every single time), I really liked the N64 games. They really did feel like an oldschool CV game in 3D, and I wish they wouldn't have given up on that completely.

...also, I really like Simon's Quest. Especially now that we have the fan re-translation.


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06 Sep 2014, 8:51 am

"Castlevania:Lords of Shadow" actually seems more like an oldschool CV game in 3D due to it having a fixed-camera-angle, and the levels being a little more straightforward than the N64 and PS2 games. Along with it having a map-screen between the different levels as well.

I know the N64 games have aspects of the classic NES/SNES games too though.



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06 Sep 2014, 8:48 pm

After learning about some rather interesting philosophical concepts, I came up with what I think is an interesting fan theory.

I can't remember if it's Plato or Aristotle who came up with it, but one of them suggested that humans should be bred like we breed dogs, those with the better genes and the capacity to lead being put into buildings with little material possessions or something like that, I basically have this philosophy soup floating around in my head so I barely remember much of anything from those classes.

Anyway, the idea of breeding humans feeds into my Castlevania headcanon. That headcanon?
Right after the events of Lament of Innocence, the Belmont family has been breeding progressively better and better monster hunters and vampire killers. Leon specifically picked out his wife(or next wife, since I think Leon's a widower, I couldn't figure out the controls for Innocence so I was like NOOOOOPE) in order to ensure his child would be a better vampire killer.

This keeps on going with each generation specifically breeding to make better, stronger, more powerful and, as a side-effect they weren't even trying for, more attractive Belmonts.

Occasionally, they resort to linebreeding in order to keep traits in the family(linebreeding is where you breed cousins with each other) or because special blood is difficult to come by. As a result, every single non-Belmont character we see in the games who allies with the PC likely winds up in the Belmont family in some form, usually because they marry in or have kids with the PC. Hell, considering that I think a couple Belmonts can summon familiars and/or use magic, maybe Alucard himself decided to inject his own DNA into their family at some point.

At some point, around the time of Order of Ecclesia, the Belmont family's reached that point where they can't find anyone to get into their family who can help further the vampire hunter part they've been trying for and, as a result, you have a bunch of duds in the form of the villagers you rescue throughout the game: some have powers, usually things that won't help in the long run, but most don't.

Enter Shanoa. After slaying Dracula, she decides to give the Belmont family a MASSIVE genetic boost by getting into the family herself, resulting in a power surge in the next Belmont.

Eventually Aria of Sorrow rolls around, set in 2036, we see what the Belmont family has created so far: Julius Belmont, who is the strongest member of the Belmont family next to Harmony of Dissonance's protagonist Juste, who's right after Julius.

My headcanon involving Julius is that, because of all that careful breeding his family has done, not only is he the strongest Belmont in the main timeline, he's also the longest lived, losing the ability to bear children at a much later date. He's only fifty-four when Aria rolls around, so as long as he can get it up, he's able to make another Belmont.

So yeah, long story short, the Belmont family tree has one massive main branch and about eight gazillion smaller ones they occasionally use to breed in traits. It's pretty much a happy accident that they keep coming out so good looking.


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07 Sep 2014, 1:08 pm

castlevania lords of shadow 2 is really lame. the first was much more kick ass than the last one.


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09 Sep 2014, 10:04 am

I played only 2 Castlevania games: Rondo of Blood and Symphony of the Night. ROB was pretty fun but a bit confusing (some alternate routes required a lot of guesswork, so i ended up using a guide), but SOTN was a much better game and is one of my favourites (needed a guide for a few parts, but it was WAY better than it's prequel).