Five Night's at Freddy's: Final Chapter

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30 Apr 2015, 9:26 am

Okay, I have no idea if that's going to be the actual full title, but that's what it says on the image here:

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Considering how the story finished in the full ending of the third game (the one you needed to go to ALOT of effort to get), I dont see how the original animatronics (or their other versions) could possibly still be active, but there were hints that Springtrap escaped in the end. So it'll be interesting to see just where it goes from there.

Which is sorta my current theory, that it still has something to do with Springtrap, or more specifically, the soul of the purple guy that is controlling him. That new.... whatever the hell it is.... in the pic there looks busted up and insane in a similar way to Springtrap. ....except with freaky heads growing all over the place, because I dont know.

That one image is from the dev's site, and is literally the only thing there, there's no other info on the game yet, so time will tell what happens!



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30 Apr 2015, 11:13 am

They are making another game? Maybe its because of the movie they are making?



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08 May 2015, 8:16 pm

I just hope it doesn't ruin that epic ending from the 3rd game.



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08 May 2015, 8:33 pm

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I just hope it doesn't ruin that epic ending from the 3rd game.


I doubt it. The 3rd game's ending actually left a ton of stuff unanswered, particularly with the high chance that Springtrap escaped the fire. There was also the suggestion a few times that there was something more than just the ghosts of those kids in play (such as "Shadow Bonnie"). Or one of my own constant questions: the ghost that became the Puppet supposedly brought the other ones back to life in the form of the other animatronics, the game points this out a few times, but where did he get the power to do that in the first place?

Whatever the case, it should be interesting to see what happens.

.....and I see the pic that I linked to is different now. Just.... what.



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08 May 2015, 10:59 pm

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I just hope it doesn't ruin that epic ending from the 3rd game.


You do realize the bad ending is the canon ending right?


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09 May 2015, 12:55 am

Image

And there's the image brightened; if you look closely you can see the word "NIGHTMARE" over the whole thing. In addition, I'm pretty sure the freaky rabbit thing isnt normal Bonnie, but is instead Shadow Bonnie, which would explain it's deranged appearance.

To show something else here that goes along with it, if you havent seen it already, this is the Shadow Bonnie sprite that appears in one of the death minigames (one of the secret ones):

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It's pretty clear that this is definitely not normal Bonnie; even the version with the face missing is really just a damaged version of normal Bonnie. It doesnt have the rather insane look that this thing has. Shadow Bonnie in the minigame also floats when standing still. When moving, it constantly glitches out like that.

OKAY THEORY TIME:

My theory going along with this is that Shadow Bonnie might be one of the most important characters in the overall storyline. I'm going to guess that unlike the actual animatronics, Shadow Bonnie has no human soul attached to it, but is instead a completely seperate and totally different entity. The bizarre glitched out nature of the sprite suggests to me that it has something of an otherworldly origin; something that isnt actually meant to be in this world, but has entered it anyway. Actual glitches in computer programs are very similar: they are things that are not supposed to be there, and their very presence causes all sorts of bizarre distortions and effects, and even full crashes. So that might be what the glitched nature of the sprite is meant to show. If you see the actual minigame, it starts out exactly as the Golden Freddy one before it does, except that when moving around as Shadow Bonnie the entire level seems to glitch out, randomly flickering between scenes in the other secret minigames (and in addition, he can fly). Hitting S on the keyboard (according to the wiki) causes it to flip to a unique and bizarre purple room, which is part of the key to solving the puzzle of how to finish the minigame correctly.

My guess is that Shadow Bonnie is probably a malignant entity that has been manipulating things from behind the scenes from the very beginning, and might be the one (along with Shadow Freddy possibly) that provided the supernatural power that gives the possessed animatronics their strength (and in the Puppet's case, gave him entirely unique abilities that none of the others have). As for WHY he's doing this, I have no clue. Probably some really warped reason, no way to know till the game comes out.


So yeah, that's some of my theory on the whole thing. Was quite bored here, so I figured I may as well ramble about it while it was on my mind.



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09 May 2015, 8:51 am

Misery wrote:
Image

And there's the image brightened; if you look closely you can see the word "NIGHTMARE" over the whole thing. In addition, I'm pretty sure the freaky rabbit thing isnt normal Bonnie, but is instead Shadow Bonnie, which would explain it's deranged appearance.

To show something else here that goes along with it, if you havent seen it already, this is the Shadow Bonnie sprite that appears in one of the death minigames (one of the secret ones):

Image

It's pretty clear that this is definitely not normal Bonnie; even the version with the face missing is really just a damaged version of normal Bonnie. It doesnt have the rather insane look that this thing has. Shadow Bonnie in the minigame also floats when standing still. When moving, it constantly glitches out like that.

OKAY THEORY TIME:

My theory going along with this is that Shadow Bonnie might be one of the most important characters in the overall storyline. I'm going to guess that unlike the actual animatronics, Shadow Bonnie has no human soul attached to it, but is instead a completely seperate and totally different entity. The bizarre glitched out nature of the sprite suggests to me that it has something of an otherworldly origin; something that isnt actually meant to be in this world, but has entered it anyway. Actual glitches in computer programs are very similar: they are things that are not supposed to be there, and their very presence causes all sorts of bizarre distortions and effects, and even full crashes. So that might be what the glitched nature of the sprite is meant to show. If you see the actual minigame, it starts out exactly as the Golden Freddy one before it does, except that when moving around as Shadow Bonnie the entire level seems to glitch out, randomly flickering between scenes in the other secret minigames (and in addition, he can fly). Hitting S on the keyboard (according to the wiki) causes it to flip to a unique and bizarre purple room, which is part of the key to solving the puzzle of how to finish the minigame correctly.

My guess is that Shadow Bonnie is probably a malignant entity that has been manipulating things from behind the scenes from the very beginning, and might be the one (along with Shadow Freddy possibly) that provided the supernatural power that gives the possessed animatronics their strength (and in the Puppet's case, gave him entirely unique abilities that none of the others have). As for WHY he's doing this, I have no clue. Probably some really warped reason, no way to know till the game comes out.


So yeah, that's some of my theory on the whole thing. Was quite bored here, so I figured I may as well ramble about it while it was on my mind.


Actually Shadow Freddy and Shadow Bonnie are just ghosts. You see, back before they used animatronics, they used spring lock suits. They only had two of them which are what we now know are Golden Freddy and Spring Trap. Soon there was a fatal flaw discovered in the suits and then they were retired in a room that was sealed away. Shadow Freddy and Shadow Bonnie are in fact the spirits of the first casualties of the spring lock suits.


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09 May 2015, 10:26 am

Aspiegaming wrote:
Misery wrote:
Image

And there's the image brightened; if you look closely you can see the word "NIGHTMARE" over the whole thing. In addition, I'm pretty sure the freaky rabbit thing isnt normal Bonnie, but is instead Shadow Bonnie, which would explain it's deranged appearance.

To show something else here that goes along with it, if you havent seen it already, this is the Shadow Bonnie sprite that appears in one of the death minigames (one of the secret ones):

Image

It's pretty clear that this is definitely not normal Bonnie; even the version with the face missing is really just a damaged version of normal Bonnie. It doesnt have the rather insane look that this thing has. Shadow Bonnie in the minigame also floats when standing still. When moving, it constantly glitches out like that.

OKAY THEORY TIME:

My theory going along with this is that Shadow Bonnie might be one of the most important characters in the overall storyline. I'm going to guess that unlike the actual animatronics, Shadow Bonnie has no human soul attached to it, but is instead a completely seperate and totally different entity. The bizarre glitched out nature of the sprite suggests to me that it has something of an otherworldly origin; something that isnt actually meant to be in this world, but has entered it anyway. Actual glitches in computer programs are very similar: they are things that are not supposed to be there, and their very presence causes all sorts of bizarre distortions and effects, and even full crashes. So that might be what the glitched nature of the sprite is meant to show. If you see the actual minigame, it starts out exactly as the Golden Freddy one before it does, except that when moving around as Shadow Bonnie the entire level seems to glitch out, randomly flickering between scenes in the other secret minigames (and in addition, he can fly). Hitting S on the keyboard (according to the wiki) causes it to flip to a unique and bizarre purple room, which is part of the key to solving the puzzle of how to finish the minigame correctly.

My guess is that Shadow Bonnie is probably a malignant entity that has been manipulating things from behind the scenes from the very beginning, and might be the one (along with Shadow Freddy possibly) that provided the supernatural power that gives the possessed animatronics their strength (and in the Puppet's case, gave him entirely unique abilities that none of the others have). As for WHY he's doing this, I have no clue. Probably some really warped reason, no way to know till the game comes out.


So yeah, that's some of my theory on the whole thing. Was quite bored here, so I figured I may as well ramble about it while it was on my mind.


Actually Shadow Freddy and Shadow Bonnie are just ghosts. You see, back before they used animatronics, they used spring lock suits. They only had two of them which are what we now know are Golden Freddy and Spring Trap. Soon there was a fatal flaw discovered in the suits and then they were retired in a room that was sealed away. Shadow Freddy and Shadow Bonnie are in fact the spirits of the first casualties of the spring lock suits.


I'm curious as to where you got that from: It's not anywhere on the wiki. Typically if something has no dedicated page, there's not enough info about it (usually the case with any major game wiki). Generally, the wiki is the only place I get info from, as the actual community is *extremely* unreliable for that. With games like this (as you know, ALOT of other games have giant demented communities too, haha) I typically never, ever rely on the community for info on.... anything. Not even just story stuff (as that's rarely what I"m looking for), but usually gameplay elements and all of that... you get so much misinformation. So yeah, I've gotten all info I have from there, and from what I've witnessed in the actual games.

According to that, there's still nothing but rumors surrounding these (which is why I'm coming up with theories in the first place). For example, the CONSTANT one about the Golden Freddy suit not being a spring suit, but being an empty suit (with nothing in it, meant just to be worn, like a mascot suit) that was used by the killer (all of these things related to Golden Freddy are still listed as rumors by the wiki; there's no definitive info on his backstory yet). The only reason that Springtrap's suit's purpose in the third game (where it kills Purple Guy) is known is because it was blatantly shown. And Golden Freddy actually being an entirely empty suit (as in, nothing in it at all) would be the only way that the killer could have possibly used it; the game does make it apparant that one of the suits WAS used for the purpose of luring the kids to their doom. Considering how the spring suits work and what causes them to lock up, there's no way the killer could have used one, done the deed, and NOT gotten obliterated in the process.

That, and I'm sticking to my original theory for a couple of reasons. The bizarro glitch effects in the minigame being the big one; one thing I've seen is that Scott never does something like that without a reason, even if his reason is very cryptic, and his design style is the very careful sort. Shadow Bonnie's bizarre glitchiness was a heavy focus of that minigame, which says that it holds some actual significance. The minigame emphasizes the hell out of this during the entirety of it. He's the only one of the characters that has any of these aspects.

Heck, even if they are human spirits, that glitch bit suggests that there's something *really* wrong with them. And either some otherworldly nightmare, or hyper-insane spirits could explain the appearance of.... er.... well what I guess could be called Nightmare Freddy and Nightmare Bonnie from the FNAF 4 images that have been shown. I cant imagine anyone would actually BUILD animatronics that look like.... those. Complete with horrible sharp bits. I'm going to guess that they werent formed by normal means (as in, entirely constructed by some supernatural evil whatsit), or that something powerful caught one of the normal bots and just utterly warped it. The appearances of the other bots all made sense; something like Faceless Bonnie, or even Springtrap, their appearances were just caused by wear and tear and general damage over the years. ....cant attribute damage to... whatever the hell is going on with those 2 new things.


Bloody game is fascinating, really. Normally I wouldnt give a damn to enter into some sort of interesting debate or conversation about the storyline in a game, as most of them just lose my interest immediately, or seem stupid from the start (like most JRPG storylines...). First game in a *long* time that's caught me with the story.


Of course, it's all going to be unending rumors and speculation for quite awhile now, with that release date. ....if it's accurate this time.



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09 May 2015, 12:50 pm

Misery wrote:
Aspiegaming wrote:
Misery wrote:
Image

And there's the image brightened; if you look closely you can see the word "NIGHTMARE" over the whole thing. In addition, I'm pretty sure the freaky rabbit thing isnt normal Bonnie, but is instead Shadow Bonnie, which would explain it's deranged appearance.

To show something else here that goes along with it, if you havent seen it already, this is the Shadow Bonnie sprite that appears in one of the death minigames (one of the secret ones):

Image

It's pretty clear that this is definitely not normal Bonnie; even the version with the face missing is really just a damaged version of normal Bonnie. It doesnt have the rather insane look that this thing has. Shadow Bonnie in the minigame also floats when standing still. When moving, it constantly glitches out like that.

OKAY THEORY TIME:

My theory going along with this is that Shadow Bonnie might be one of the most important characters in the overall storyline. I'm going to guess that unlike the actual animatronics, Shadow Bonnie has no human soul attached to it, but is instead a completely seperate and totally different entity. The bizarre glitched out nature of the sprite suggests to me that it has something of an otherworldly origin; something that isnt actually meant to be in this world, but has entered it anyway. Actual glitches in computer programs are very similar: they are things that are not supposed to be there, and their very presence causes all sorts of bizarre distortions and effects, and even full crashes. So that might be what the glitched nature of the sprite is meant to show. If you see the actual minigame, it starts out exactly as the Golden Freddy one before it does, except that when moving around as Shadow Bonnie the entire level seems to glitch out, randomly flickering between scenes in the other secret minigames (and in addition, he can fly). Hitting S on the keyboard (according to the wiki) causes it to flip to a unique and bizarre purple room, which is part of the key to solving the puzzle of how to finish the minigame correctly.

My guess is that Shadow Bonnie is probably a malignant entity that has been manipulating things from behind the scenes from the very beginning, and might be the one (along with Shadow Freddy possibly) that provided the supernatural power that gives the possessed animatronics their strength (and in the Puppet's case, gave him entirely unique abilities that none of the others have). As for WHY he's doing this, I have no clue. Probably some really warped reason, no way to know till the game comes out.


So yeah, that's some of my theory on the whole thing. Was quite bored here, so I figured I may as well ramble about it while it was on my mind.


Actually Shadow Freddy and Shadow Bonnie are just ghosts. You see, back before they used animatronics, they used spring lock suits. They only had two of them which are what we now know are Golden Freddy and Spring Trap. Soon there was a fatal flaw discovered in the suits and then they were retired in a room that was sealed away. Shadow Freddy and Shadow Bonnie are in fact the spirits of the first casualties of the spring lock suits.


I'm curious as to where you got that from: It's not anywhere on the wiki. Typically if something has no dedicated page, there's not enough info about it (usually the case with any major game wiki). Generally, the wiki is the only place I get info from, as the actual community is *extremely* unreliable for that. With games like this (as you know, ALOT of other games have giant demented communities too, haha) I typically never, ever rely on the community for info on.... anything. Not even just story stuff (as that's rarely what I"m looking for), but usually gameplay elements and all of that... you get so much misinformation. So yeah, I've gotten all info I have from there, and from what I've witnessed in the actual games.

According to that, there's still nothing but rumors surrounding these (which is why I'm coming up with theories in the first place). For example, the CONSTANT one about the Golden Freddy suit not being a spring suit, but being an empty suit (with nothing in it, meant just to be worn, like a mascot suit) that was used by the killer (all of these things related to Golden Freddy are still listed as rumors by the wiki; there's no definitive info on his backstory yet). The only reason that Springtrap's suit's purpose in the third game (where it kills Purple Guy) is known is because it was blatantly shown. And Golden Freddy actually being an entirely empty suit (as in, nothing in it at all) would be the only way that the killer could have possibly used it; the game does make it apparant that one of the suits WAS used for the purpose of luring the kids to their doom. Considering how the spring suits work and what causes them to lock up, there's no way the killer could have used one, done the deed, and NOT gotten obliterated in the process.

That, and I'm sticking to my original theory for a couple of reasons. The bizarro glitch effects in the minigame being the big one; one thing I've seen is that Scott never does something like that without a reason, even if his reason is very cryptic, and his design style is the very careful sort. Shadow Bonnie's bizarre glitchiness was a heavy focus of that minigame, which says that it holds some actual significance. The minigame emphasizes the hell out of this during the entirety of it. He's the only one of the characters that has any of these aspects.

Heck, even if they are human spirits, that glitch bit suggests that there's something *really* wrong with them. And either some otherworldly nightmare, or hyper-insane spirits could explain the appearance of.... er.... well what I guess could be called Nightmare Freddy and Nightmare Bonnie from the FNAF 4 images that have been shown. I cant imagine anyone would actually BUILD animatronics that look like.... those. Complete with horrible sharp bits. I'm going to guess that they werent formed by normal means (as in, entirely constructed by some supernatural evil whatsit), or that something powerful caught one of the normal bots and just utterly warped it. The appearances of the other bots all made sense; something like Faceless Bonnie, or even Springtrap, their appearances were just caused by wear and tear and general damage over the years. ....cant attribute damage to... whatever the hell is going on with those 2 new things.


Bloody game is fascinating, really. Normally I wouldnt give a damn to enter into some sort of interesting debate or conversation about the storyline in a game, as most of them just lose my interest immediately, or seem stupid from the start (like most JRPG storylines...). First game in a *long* time that's caught me with the story.


Of course, it's all going to be unending rumors and speculation for quite awhile now, with that release date. ....if it's accurate this time.


The game theorists on YouTube did a two part video solving the mysteries of the trilogy as well as the timeline and the identity of the purple guy. It's a really convincing theory too.


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09 May 2015, 1:03 pm

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I just hope it doesn't ruin that epic ending from the 3rd game.


You do realize the bad ending is the canon ending right?


Except it only says "Bad Ending," whereas the good one actually says "The End."



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09 May 2015, 1:27 pm

AlanSmithee wrote:
Aspiegaming wrote:
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I just hope it doesn't ruin that epic ending from the 3rd game.


You do realize the bad ending is the canon ending right?


Except it only says "Bad Ending," whereas the good one actually says "The End."


Unfortunately, the whole accessing the mini-games to get the good ending doesn't make sense from a realistic point of view and some of the mini-games make even less sense how they would play out in real life. Those kids will still be restlessly hunting down anyone wearing the security guard uniform they hate so much.

We'll just have to wait and see if FNAF 4 will give us a real good ending. Spring Trap still lives as does the purple guy zombie corpse inside him. What he does next is something out of Frankenstein. The souls might be trapped in these new creations and to free them, Spring Trap must be destroyed completely.


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09 May 2015, 1:35 pm

Aspiegaming wrote:
AlanSmithee wrote:
Aspiegaming wrote:
AlanSmithee wrote:
I just hope it doesn't ruin that epic ending from the 3rd game.


You do realize the bad ending is the canon ending right?


Except it only says "Bad Ending," whereas the good one actually says "The End."


Unfortunately, the whole accessing the mini-games to get the good ending doesn't make sense from a realistic point of view and some of the mini-games make even less sense how they would play out in real life. Those kids will still be restlessly hunting down anyone wearing the security guard uniform they hate so much.

We'll just have to wait and see if FNAF 4 will give us a real good ending. Spring Trap still lives as does the purple guy zombie corpse inside him. What he does next is something out of Frankenstein. The souls might be trapped in these new creations and to free them, Spring Trap must be destroyed completely.


"But hey, that's just a theory!" ---Game Theory



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09 May 2015, 1:47 pm

AlanSmithee wrote:
Aspiegaming wrote:
AlanSmithee wrote:
Aspiegaming wrote:
AlanSmithee wrote:
I just hope it doesn't ruin that epic ending from the 3rd game.


You do realize the bad ending is the canon ending right?


Except it only says "Bad Ending," whereas the good one actually says "The End."


Unfortunately, the whole accessing the mini-games to get the good ending doesn't make sense from a realistic point of view and some of the mini-games make even less sense how they would play out in real life. Those kids will still be restlessly hunting down anyone wearing the security guard uniform they hate so much.

We'll just have to wait and see if FNAF 4 will give us a real good ending. Spring Trap still lives as does the purple guy zombie corpse inside him. What he does next is something out of Frankenstein. The souls might be trapped in these new creations and to free them, Spring Trap must be destroyed completely.


"But hey, that's just a theory!" ---Game Theory


Ha. :lol: True.


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09 May 2015, 7:51 pm

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The game theorists on YouTube did a two part video solving the mysteries of the trilogy as well as the timeline and the identity of the purple guy. It's a really convincing theory too.



Those guys, ehhhh.... let's just say I usually just ignore them.

As for the minigames, I dont think they're really SUPPOSED to be some realistic way of doing.... anything, within the game world. It's like with a turn-based JRPG.... the battles just represent what's going on in a way, for the sake of the gameplay; the characters arent ACTUALLY standing there actually taking turns stabbing each other! It's just one of the ways gaming works... even if it is kinda stupid at times, many liberties are often taken for the sake of having the gameplay actually work.

Remember, this is a game where your entire interaction has to do with sitting perfectly still and looking at a camera and such; he needed to have SOMETHING else to find/do without altering that mechanic.

...it is at least better than the "find 100 shiny whatsits that the main villain left scattered around the universe in highly unlikely places!" sort of mechanic that alot of games go for, when they want to have some sealed off "ultimate" area or story part.