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24 May 2018, 3:43 am

If so, is it worth it? Is the fact that it's not a real SNES a problem? I wanted to get one, but I miss putting the carts in it...



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24 May 2018, 5:09 pm

It seems like a terrible product to me. It's a bulky machine that will emulate a very limited selection of games. It is only designed to run the included games, with no functionality to download further titles. Even if you could sideload games onto it, it likely isn't able to run many games because it most certainly uses a lot of hacks, since it's not powerful to run accurate modern day emulation. It only includes a few filters for upscaling to a modern high definition screen, compared to the huge amount available to most other emulators. It's an emulator, without any of the benefits of an emulator.

To be frank, it's not even remotely competitive with my PC from the mid 90s with ZSNES and online play with zbattle.net/Kaillera. It's just another half assed attempt by Nintendo to sell their old catalogue using outdated business practices.



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25 May 2018, 8:25 am

I thought about getting one, but I already have an SNES and a Wii, and I'm not a huge fan of running oldschool games on HDTVs.

Enigmatic_Oddity wrote:
Even if you could sideload games onto it, it likely isn't able to run many games because it most certainly uses a lot of hacks, since it's not powerful to run accurate modern day emulation.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 2014317767

"Most games run in Canoe and pretty much everything runs in Retroarch, depending on the core you're using."

From what I've heard, Canoe doesn't use hacks, and most ROMs run fine. But with RetroArch, you can install more emus than just SNES.


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25 May 2018, 12:54 pm

Yeah, honestly, the thing seems like a waste of money.

The funny bit is, Nintendo has already done this before with their virtual console... and always gotten it wrong. If you've ever used the VC on any of their consoles that it appears on, you probably have noticed that the emulation isnt even accurate. There are things that are just wrong with every game played on them. And that's likely to be the case here too.

But beyond that... I also just dont see the point.

If you're the sort of player that wants the "real" experience, then nothing is going to give you that except the original device and the associated cartridges. Get collecting, instead of buying this.

If you just want to be able to play the games again... just get a real emulator. It's *extremely* easy to find good ones, and extremely easy to find every rom ever. And those emulators are not only hyper-accurate, but give you about 10 bazillion options to work with. The SNES mini will give you nearly none, just like the NES mini, just like the VC.

Really, the product just exists to capitalize on your nostalgia.... dont fall for it. Nintendo might make some awesome stuff, but dont forget that despite this they are still a big greedy corporate entity. They're out for money, and this is one of their more blatant cash grabs.



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25 May 2018, 5:02 pm

SabbraCadabra wrote:
From what I've heard, Canoe doesn't use hacks, and most ROMs run fine. But with RetroArch, you can install more emus than just SNES.


I'm not seeing the same thing looking at that Canoe 'compatibility' list. What I see is a long list of the SNES library where a huge amount of games require patching just to run or to resolve major issues. And the only qualifier of successful emulation on that list is that it's 'working'. It doesn't go into any sort of detail about the quality of emulation.

For me to think about buying into something like this, it has to bring some sort of value beyond being a bad emulation machine with a kitschy exterior appearance. Something like portability - not in the sense of being able to physically carry it around, but in not being tied to hardware. Being able to load into a Nintendo Classics account on any internet connected device and have access to your games would be of actual value. Inclusion of netplay would also entice me, as would integration of community features such as a central game lobby - logging on and seeing that x number of players are interested in a game of Mario Kart, Puyo Puyo or Advance Wars would encourage wider play of classic titles and boost sales.

But this is Nintendo we're talking about, so all of these obvious features are pie in the sky for them, even if they've existed elsewhere for decades.