Thinking of getting the Xbox One X

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I am set on getting this, from what I have looked up its better than the PS4 and most of the games I like can be played on it. I am a bit sad I will have to sacrifice my Skyrim Ork character, I have gotten pretty far but there is no way to upload PS3 data to Xbox so I will just have to make a new Ork. Also though I tried playing Dragon Age inquisition on my PS3 and it did not seem to like it at all especially on the parts the rift opens and you have to fight the demons...like the fan will go all the way up and make tons of noise so makes it less enjoyable to play...I assume perhaps it will be better on the Xbox One X. So enough about that. I will buy one for sure.

I was trying to decide if I should just hold out to get a new one, or if I should get a refurbished one for cheaper. Does anyone have any ideas on that? Like can you think of any issues that would come with getting a refurbished Xbox One X or do you think it would be a good deal as opposed to paying 499$ for a new one. I have found a couple refurbished on Ebay for closer to 399$

One thing: Don't assume that any given game will be better simply because you try it on a different console. Ports are NOTORIOUS for being bad. Some are outright legendary for it. If you didn't like a game on one console, or if it had a bunch of problems, it is likely to be no better on another (and may be much worse). Even if that console is more powerful. Hell, this goes for console-to-PC ports too (and PCs are DRAMATICALLY more powerful). It aint power that truly matters with these.

As it is, the Xbox One and the PS4 are nearly identical in terms of their library. There are three very specific things that will matter: 1, the controller. 2, the interface/UI and online bits (which don't matter once you're in a game, except for the connection quality if playing online), and 3, the exclusives (of which there are very few on either). Keep that in mind too.

That all being said, refurbished is probably fine. Just make sure you're getting it from a reputable source.

Which has better exclusives? The PS4 or the Xbox One?

That doesn't make sense. You're suggesting that ports are inherently or at least generally bad, which is both not evidenced and, subjectively speaking, highly debatable. You could instead argue that they won't find Skyrim any more enjoyable on the more powerful console, and that would be entirely reasonable.

To the OP, do you actually have a setup that would benefit from the new console? You need a fairly decent 4K display and games that have Xbox One X support.

I heard some of the games for the Xbox One X and PS4 Pro have other enhanced modes aside from 4K such as a higher framerate. To be honest I'd choose 1080P@60 FPS over 4K@30FPS even if I did have a 4K display.

There is very little difference between the differing consoles. They're pretty much identical, and your choice should depend on which system has the games you want to play, not on which game has slightly better resolution on a particular system.

I think you'll be disappointed though if you think they'll be much quieter though. They need to be as loud as they are to get any ventilation, given the small form factor.

Actually, they ARE inherantly worse. This isnt just something I'm pulling out of nowhere: This is from years and YEARS of watching this happening. This isnt rare either. It's common. It's so common that I'll usually warn people about the possibility upfront. And note that "inherantly worse" doesnt instantly mean "as bad as that Batman game". But there are varying levels of "busted".

The porting process is not a simple one. Everyone THINKS it is, but it isnt. But developers usually arent given enough time or budget to actually produce the things. After all, it's not an entirely new product, so the publishers dont see the reason to put much money into it. To them, the devs have more important things to do. AKA, the next real project that will make the publisher rich.

When a game is ported after the fact, the chance of bugs and other issues rises exponentially. And this isnt even JUST related to the situation mentioned above. Sometimes, the process is just bloody hard. I know a dev who went through that one recently... no publisher, no worries about budget... but the simple act of porting from PC to console proved very problematic, immediately producing major glitches that took a few months to fix (the screwball process of producing a patch of ANY sort on consoles just adds to this and creates a whole class of problems on it's own, and this is something that *most* users dont seem to be aware of). This, from a developer who usually fixed bugs within a couple of days of them being reported. And that was just an indie game. Imagine what it must take to do this to a AAA product (which are often inherantly problematic to begin with, due to nasty constraints from publishers couldnt give less of a crap).


Now, if a game is designed FROM THE START to be on multiple platforms at once, the chance of trouble goes down. But it doesnt go away even in that case... it's definitely still there. You're still dealing with platforms that have inherant differences, and software that's somehow expected to run exactly the same on all of them anyway.

This is also part of why some games end up being exclusive either to console or PC. Devs sometimes seriously just cant spare the time/money it takes to port something correctly.

My point is: The porting process is difficult and complicated. Again, nobody really ever thinks it is, but that changes nothing. It presents problems inherant to itself, EVERY time, and increases the chance of producing totally new bugs in any software that is put through that process. The chance increases more, the less time and money can be spent on it. All that you, the consumer, can do is hope that any problems produced by the process arent things that are going to be particularly noticable to you. Sometimes however, not only are they noticable, but they're outright gamebreaking.

One way or another though, no software product avoids these risks completely when put through that process.

Have you thought about getting a PC?

From what I understand they are a lot more expensive than a console, that is if I wanted a good one. Also though for Skyrim I really like playing it on a console so not sure I'd enjoy it as much on a PC. The main game I play on the computer is league of legends, and for now my laptop works alright for it.

You dont need an expensive PC to do alot of gaming on. People say that all the time, but it's only a myth (and a bad one). If you really WANT alot of power in your machine, the sky's the limit. But if you're just after basic gaming, it wont cost much more than a console, yet even then it's likely to be quite a bit stronger (consoles really are NOT very powerful machines).

If you're using a laptop that can run LoL, then chances are, you already have enough power for MOST things. Not some, but MOST.

But also... yes, you can play games on here in the same way you play a console. Got a controller? They're all usable on here (and yes, stuff like Skyrim supports controllers on PC). The vast majority of the gaming I do is done using a PS4 controller, yet I almost never use the PS4 itself. Not only did I grow up with consoles in a general sense, but too much mouse use wrecks my arm, so controller it is for most things whether I want to or not.

As far as PC building is concerned as people have said it can be done for fairly cheap if all you're looking for is a basic gaming build. There are a number of advantages though among them a PC will generally last longer and can be upgraded which a console cannot. I'd recommend taking some time to look at Tiger Direct or New Egg to see what building a basic PC would cost you.

Also given that most of the Xbox games are being developed and distributed for PC as well via the Microsoft Store you can get all that gaming goodness and more all on a machine that will last longer than a single console generation.

A PC can give you a very console like experience. You can plug it into your TV and play it from the couch. You can buy a PC gamepad or even use an Xbox One controller.

Personally, I use a Steam Controller because it provides mouse-like aiming.

Hmm, well perhaps this sort of PC set up is worth looking into at some point, if I did I would probably want to save up and get a good build or whatever rather than just going for very basic so I feel that may end up being more of an investment than the Xbox. So perhaps Xbox one X for now(or soon, wont be able to get it for a couple months at least)...and a PC hooked up to my t.v later down the road.

That sounds like a really bad idea unless you really, really want to play a specific Xbox exclusive title. There are very few reasons ever to own both an Xbox and a PC, since most Xbox games are on PC. You're essentially buying two systems, one of which will largely be redundant. Most people who play on PC get a Nintendo system if they want a console, or a Playstation.

But it's your money. If you really want to play Halo enough, paying half a grand for it will make sense.

Yeah, I can confirm that part, for sure.

It seems the Xbox brand currently has a bit of a reputation for, well... nothing. I keep hearing about this alot recently. Microsoft hasnt been DOING much with it, in terms of giving it anything exclusive or even remotely interesting. What it does have, is also available on PC, which also means a version with better graphics/whatever for those that care about that aspect.

Right now, an Xbox is just an extremely limited PC with an interface that's even more annoying than Windows (and much, MUCH slower).

The 360 was a bit different... sort of... the device was annoying as all hell and had a tendency to break if you looked at it too hard, and had the absolute worst controllers I've ever used, but it actually had some unique stuff on it. Even I owned one, even if I loathed every molecule of it.

But an Xbox One? I think it may honestly be the one and only console where I cant think of what exclusives it even has (beyond Halo of course). Somehow it's just.... maybe "generic" is the word. Like they've managed to create this thing that does NOTHING to stand out. It's moderately baffling, when I actually sit here and think about it.

I don't care too much about exclusives, mostly I want to upgrade my ps3 console, but I don't want the PS4. Since I use windows 10 makes more sense to get the microsoft console so I can use my account on my laptop and console.

Also though I am a bit confused of how it does nothing to stand out...from the website and what I've seen over the internet seems to suggest it has a better processor than the previous X-boxs, has the real 4k quality or whatever(not 100% sure what exactly that even is I admit) as opposed to playstation just sort of mimicking it but without really providing that quality(granted I don't know very much at all about technical aspects of computer/console software or picture quality. And other features and things I can't remember. I could see the hype being a little much for what it is...but the way it's described on the website implies its a big step up from previous versions of Xbox and it seems preferable to the PS4 so to me at least that is appealing enough. I suppose I am trying to determine if it is good for a console, but not as good as a PC...or if you'd say consoles over-all are just crap compared to PCs?

What do you estimate would be the lowest cost for a PC that's good for gaming? I still find it worth considering but since my laptop was 600 I suspect a PC would be that much or more. Really I guess I would just have to look into the costs and do some thinking before I make a decision...I mean I should figure what would work best for me. As I am the one that will be sitting in my living room using whatever system I do get.

I guess one other PC concern I have, is complexity...I am not really knowledgeable on technical aspects of consoles or computers let alone the parts inside them, so I suppose I am considering if consoles are more user friendly than PCs as I wouldn't want to get a system and then find I prefered the simplicity of the console for instance. does that seem to be a valid concern or no?