Are Autistics Good at Poker?
This is one I find interesting. Poker is a very interesting game, based on probability, and social strategy. It is advantageous in Poker not to be read by others by putting on a "Poker Face." It is also advantageous to be able to "read" others and tell when they're bluffing.
I was wondering if autistics because we're used to trying to decode social interactions, and because our facial expressions tend to be misread by NTs were "naturally" good at Poker or, if because we're not as good at getting non-verbal information naturally are "naturally" bad at poke? Or perhaps we have a mix of traits that are both advantageous or disadvantageous in the game.
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My theory is that we would be good at poker, because we are bad at reading faces - so we don't rely on that information, rather the other persons betting pattern and range. I can beat bad to average poker players but struggle with very good poker players who 'mix it up', but am working on my strategies to improve my game. Knowing odds and pot odds is also very helpful and some Auties are good at maths (but not all). I have mixed results in that area. Can make awful mistakes with mental arithmatic but am extremely good at detecting patterns.
Personally I love playing poker, I find it a great pastime.
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Personally I love playing poker, I find it a great pastime.
This is generally how I play poker, by doing statistical play and analyzing patterns. I do alright against the average person I encounter in a game, but feel like any real serious player would clean me out.
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I've only played poker once, in Spain over 20 years ago. I actually finished ahead of the other two players, and won 22,000 pesetas (actually only about £100) off one of them (which he was unable to pay). I think the main reason for this success was that they were even more drunk than I was (we were drinking cheap Spanish Cava from about 11 pm to 5 am, I recall throwing up afterwards....
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I've studied things about strategies like properly betting before the flop and in position, and also of course about continuation betting. It seems like you're mostly supposed to play only about 10-15% of hands and try to isolate a single opponent through the initial betting strategy.
That makes calculating the probability of your hand being victorious over any other possible hand much easier. As you acquire more winnings you widen your opening hand range (what you are willing to bet initially on before the flop) and squeeze the other players in terms of permitting play with increasing sacrifice, done in a balanced way and ramping in intensity as advantage snowballs.
I've never played with people other than speed poker online for fun a few times. I wouldn't mind trying with small amounts to figure out whether I could play skillfully against players in a real setting.
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i take it you have mastered the "poker face"?
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i take it you have mastered the "poker face"?
Since I have never actually played in a real setting, I couldn't say. I've been told I have one, but as others have mentioned there is something to be said about reading others as well.
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i take it you have mastered the "poker face"?
Since I have never actually played in a real setting, I couldn't say. I've been told I have one, but as others have mentioned there is something to be said about reading others as well.
a funny anecdotal story, i read of some old gamblers, one who said a poker buddy of his had an early artificial heart valve that would clatter audibly when the guy had either a good hand or a bad hand.
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i take it you have mastered the "poker face"?
Since I have never actually played in a real setting, I couldn't say. I've been told I have one, but as others have mentioned there is something to be said about reading others as well.
a funny anecdotal story, i read of some old gamblers, one who said a poker buddy of his had an early artificial heart valve that would clatter audibly when the guy had either a good hand or a bad hand.
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
Lol that was unfortunate!
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i take it you have mastered the "poker face"?
Since I have never actually played in a real setting, I couldn't say. I've been told I have one, but as others have mentioned there is something to be said about reading others as well.
a funny anecdotal story, i read of some old gamblers, one who said a poker buddy of his had an early artificial heart valve that would clatter audibly when the guy had either a good hand or a bad hand.
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Lol that was unfortunate!
but since it clattered on both good and bad hands, it wouldn't really give the other gamblers any real advantage, would it?
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That's actually an interesting question in terms of communicating extreme hands but not moderate ones.
I suppose you would realize by the lack of clattering when they are definitely not 1) Bluffing with a s**t hand, or 2) Playing for value with a genuinely strong hand.
That information would be somewhat valuable. You could probably bluff them off the table by being aggressive when they're playing their moderate hands (not clattering).
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I suppose you would realize by the lack of clattering when they are definitely not 1) Bluffing with a s**t hand, or 2) Playing for value with a genuinely strong hand. That information would be somewhat valuable. You could probably bluff them off the table by being aggressive when they're playing their moderate hands (not clattering).
but how do you know their sheet hand is not behind the clattering, that their terrible hand is disturbing them?
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