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09 Apr 2008, 6:07 am

Does someone of you play SCMRPG! ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Colu ... ssacre_RPG!

I developed a strong fascination in the history of Columbine massacre (and generally school shootings as such) and now I'm going to play this when I only get some time (now I devote my free time to our English grammar test retake). Your impressions?



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09 Apr 2008, 7:06 am

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Does someone of you play SCMRPG! ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Colu ... ssacre_RPG!

I developed a strong fascination in the history of Columbine massacre (and generally school shootings as such) and now I'm going to play this when I only get some time (now I devote my free time to our English grammar test retake). Your impressions?


Sounds grotesque.


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09 Apr 2008, 7:29 am

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In 2006, PC World declared the game #2 on its list of "The 10 Worst Games of All Time."


Need more be said?


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09 Apr 2008, 10:35 am

Irulan wrote:
Does someone of you play SCMRPG! ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Colu ... ssacre_RPG!

I developed a strong fascination in the history of Columbine massacre (and generally school shootings as such) and now I'm going to play this when I only get some time (now I devote my free time to our English grammar test retake). Your impressions?


Why do they fascinate you, these school shootings? Is there a certain perspective you're coming from, eg. economic, anthropological, religious? Do you study them in an academic manner?



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09 Apr 2008, 12:03 pm

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Irulan wrote:
Does someone of you play SCMRPG! ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Colu ... ssacre_RPG!

I developed a strong fascination in the history of Columbine massacre (and generally school shootings as such) and now I'm going to play this when I only get some time (now I devote my free time to our English grammar test retake). Your impressions?


Why do they fascinate you, these school shootings? Is there a certain perspective you're coming from, eg. economic, anthropological, religious? Do you study them in an academic manner?


I always derived pleasure from observing, being a silent witness who is not acting but recording everything. I may safely say I study acts of cruelty from a purely scientific, psycho-anthropological perspective, rejoicing in figuring out reasons of them, basing on theories of evolutionary psychology explaining patterns of human behaviour in particular situations. My mind is still working, selecting pieces of psychological knowledge and organising them into whole - I simply MUST know reasons why people do this or that (going on the killing spree in this case), what the supposed effects of some events (here: said shootings) will be.

Anyway, there's also one more reason standing behind my interest - it's simply exciting, like a movie or a thriller novel, normality disappears and something new is starting to happen - something new, untypical, something that doesn't happen every day but reactions of society are still the same. Personally, I am unable to empathize with victims of whatever tragedy, my emotions are very weak. It's simply interesting, not more and not less, I'm neither shocked nor sad. A type of cold, detached scientist.



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10 Apr 2008, 4:16 am

bah :(


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10 Apr 2008, 1:22 pm

Irulan wrote:
I always derived pleasure from observing, being a silent witness who is not acting but recording everything. I may safely say I study acts of cruelty from a purely scientific, psycho-anthropological perspective, rejoicing in figuring out reasons of them, basing on theories of evolutionary psychology explaining patterns of human behaviour in particular situations. My mind is still working, selecting pieces of psychological knowledge and organising them into whole - I simply MUST know reasons why people do this or that (going on the killing spree in this case), what the supposed effects of some events (here: said shootings) will be.



I also have this sort of fascination with these events and how they relate to abnormal psychology. My knowledge on the subject is shallow, which leaves plenty of room for learning (through observation, as you put it).

I do empathise with the victims on some level though.


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11 Apr 2008, 4:26 am

is this not for asking more of such events happening on schools ?


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11 Apr 2008, 5:19 am

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Anyway, there's also one more reason standing behind my interest - it's simply exciting, like a movie or a thriller novel, normality disappears and something new is starting to happen - something new, untypical, something that doesn't happen every day but reactions of society are still the same. Personally, I am unable to empathize with victims of whatever tragedy, my emotions are very weak. It's simply interesting, not more and not less, I'm neither shocked nor sad. A type of cold, detached scientist.


This is real! Columbine and Virginia Tech were not made-up stories for your entertainment, you creep! These are real people who have been killed, and thier families mourn them still. If you can't find empathy, at least show some respect. If you were the victim of a tragedy, should others care about you? :evil: :evil:



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11 Apr 2008, 7:20 am

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If you were the victim of a tragedy, should others care about you? :evil: :evil:


No 8O - after all then I would be only a young woman who had been killed by a shooter and whom they would never have heard about otherwise. For me it wouldn't matter at all if I would be mourned by strangers or even acquintances and members of family or not.



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19 Apr 2008, 3:01 am

I really wish the whole subject of Columbine would just kinda fade away.

Tragic? Sure.
Special or surprising? Not really.

Some kids gave in to pressure and went nuts and took it out on everyone else. That's it. It happens every day in many places all over the world. This was not a surprising event, particularly to those who attended Columbine. Anyone who was observant of the general attitude knew it was going to happen eventually.

As for why it happened, that's pretty easy too. Some people can't deal with stress and don't have a readily available support system to help them through stuff, and lack the strength of character to get through it on their own.


*note: This is an informed opinion colored with emotional investment, nothing more.

As for the game; I hear that if you really want to kill stuff, there are much more fun games to play. :)



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19 Apr 2008, 8:04 am

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I really wish the whole subject of Columbine would just kinda fade away.

Tragic? Sure.
Special or surprising? Not really.

Some kids gave in to pressure and went nuts and took it out on everyone else. That's it. It happens every day in many places all over the world. This was not a surprising event, particularly to those who attended Columbine. Anyone who was observant of the general attitude knew it was going to happen eventually.


You should seek out some of the people who were there when it happened. The survivors, friends & relatives of the dead kids may not appreciate how you've trivilialized that horrible tragedy. You've dismissed it as if to say, "Ah, I've seen worse. No big thing."

Not a surprisng event?!

Perhaps when you yourself have suffered loss & tragedy in this manner you will understand. How about you write a post about how 9/11 wasn't really that bad?

Shame on you! :shameonyou:



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19 Apr 2008, 2:53 pm

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Shame on you! :shameonyou:


No, shame on you. Having attended Columbine, I know that it was not something that surprised me, and it certainly didn't surprised any of the dozens of people that I knew there. How dare you claim to know better than I do about it! It's a big event for the people directly involved, but it's not really a big event in the whole scheme of things. A few people were murdered. A few people get murdered every day. 9/11 is a completely different story because of the scope of events deriving from it. Columbine changed a few people's lives; 9/11 changed most of the world.

So I say shame on you for downplaying something like 9/11 by comparing it to something as comparatively trivial as 15 deaths in a localized event.