25 year old male arrested by the Utah Highway Patrol

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22 Nov 2007, 12:21 pm

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So, here is a video of a guy being arrested by the Utah Highway Patrol in the USA.

So, whats your opinion? Did the officer do the right thing? Did he act according to the law when he tasered this guy? What would you have done in this situation if you where the officer?

Could the officer resolved this situation without aresting and tasering the suspect?



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22 Nov 2007, 12:34 pm

That is ridiculous!! ! There was no reason for that officer to use a taser. I've helped write many pleadings in civil cases against officers exactly like that. It seems like if you're going to let someone use a taser you should taser them at least once in their training so they know what it's like. Maybe then officers wouldn't go around tasering everything that moves!



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22 Nov 2007, 12:45 pm

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That is ridiculous!! !


wow, thats a strong statement.....I like that



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It seems like if you're going to let someone use a taser you should taser them at least once in their training so they know what it's like.


um....errr, yes........(actually, they do get tasered during their training, Im pretty sure about that)



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22 Nov 2007, 8:38 pm

He disobeyed authority.



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22 Nov 2007, 8:47 pm

A case of abuse.


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22 Nov 2007, 8:51 pm

Better than holding him at gunpoint or hitting him with a baton. The guy has no respect for authority.



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25 Nov 2007, 7:04 am

But was it reasonable authority or not, that is the burning question.


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25 Nov 2007, 9:44 am

cops need to relax. ive been shocked before in science class and its extremely painful, what they need to do is shoot people in the knees this bs of shooting to kill is a joke. theres no need for that



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25 Nov 2007, 8:57 pm

What was he arrested for?

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25 Nov 2007, 10:02 pm

Alright lets look at this from the officers perspective. The guy refused to sign the ticket (which in most states if you don't sign officers are required to arrest you). Officer has subject step out of car and gives him instructions to place his hands behind his back and he refuses and starts to walk away. At this point the officer has every right to tazer the subject. Plus judging by suroundings the nearest backup is probobly 5+ minutes away.

This guy deserved to ride the juice.


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25 Nov 2007, 10:35 pm

I'm with the cop. The guy tried to take charge and tell the cop what to do, even after being zapped and handcuffed. Do not ever do that. Cops' lives depend on being in control of the situation and they will do what it takes to take and keep control. All that was needed was to sign the blasted speeding ticket and move on. It sounded like the guy thought he didn't have to slow down until he reached the reduced speed sign. In some states, drivers are required to slow down as soon as they can read the sign. It's just safer that way.

I agree with TheZach: doofus bought the trouble.


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25 Nov 2007, 11:56 pm

Here some issues:
Was really that necessary to use the taser?
What about the woman? She looked terrified.
What if the guy was autistic? he would have gotten the same treatment wether or not he was, and most of the people here would be upset about it, and be against the cop without a doubt, even if he had no way of knowing.


and.. I don't know if this is true, but in a video response, one of the comments said this:

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The case was dismissed, the officer received 30 days without pay leave, and the family was given 50 grand in restitution for the tasering and illegal stop and illegal search of the vehicle.


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26 Nov 2007, 12:06 am

I still side with the cop.


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26 Nov 2007, 12:08 am

richardbenson wrote:
cops need to relax. ive been shocked before in science class and its extremely painful, what they need to do is shoot people in the knees this bs of shooting to kill is a joke. theres no need for that


you know nothing of shooting people do you?

or else this was a joke? :wink:

I saw this a few days ago.
I believe they both pushed their egos out a bit on this one.

Still, not being there and understanding the situation is not a good place to start making judgements from.

From what I know of the incident, we have yet to hear a statement from the officer.

Contrast this display of force with the Rodney King incident... if any of you know about that one.

BIG difference.

This young man was walking away to his car with a hand fidgeting in his pocket while ignoring the officer's demands to stop, turn around and put his hands behind his back.
That is evident from the video there.

don't rush to judgement of the officer folks. not until you know more about the incident.


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26 Nov 2007, 2:10 am

According to the news articles I could find, the case was not dismissed as of 11/21/2007. Trooper Gardner was still on active duty and Massey is scheduled to appear in court for the speeding ticket on 1/14/2008.


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26 Nov 2007, 3:22 am

The guy was walking away. He was not a danger to the officer. Tasers can kill people with heart problems, and although this guy was healthy-looking, I strongly doubt the officer took a complete health history on him. He had the license plate and DL number; he could have followed up on an arrest in controlled circumstances, with backup.

Administering a potentially life-threatening shock, or even a merely debilitating one, to a human being just because he is an as*hole is not ok. Tasers are good defensive weapons, and should be used as such - not as convenient tools for subduing recalcitrant drivers in the course of routine traffic stops.