Atheism and Satanism

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LOL - but what is the purpose of a pair of farm boots?

Like that Gump fellow, slowmutant believes Christianity is like a box of chocolates. He just likes those round chocolate ones with the candied cherries inside.

Frankly, I'm getting sick of slowmutant saying my "book smarts" don't impress him.
It's gotten old already; now it's just pathetic...

Religious people trying to reason are almost adorable, aren't they? Like puppies trying to fight!

Yeah, I know, I know - deliberatly offensive, but considering the atheist-bashing in this thread, justified.

You people are morons if you think a person's acceptance of the existence of God
causes them to be any less intelligent than yourselves.

Check this guy out for example:

Wikipedia Article

Conservapedia Article

CreationWiki Article

CMI Article

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iamnotaparakeet, contrary even to the statement I just made, it's not about their belief but insistance and arrogance - athiests can be the same.
The very title of this thread is assosciating atheism and satanism, contradictory principes!

I think everybody should keep their views to themselves; but if they don't, Ill always be prepared to give as good ad I get.

Satanists are antichristian Atheists is my understanding of them. I don't think they actually believe in Satan or the supernatural, rather they just do their best to annoy Christians.

iamnotaparakeet, that's probably one of the reasons I don't like Richard Dawkins... At least in some regards. His own dislike for Christianity has reflected that to all atheists; but the core of atheism, true atheism, is scientific curiosity and not holding to any religion.
Besides, I'm not sure satanism can be called antichristian - not if they follow satan, a figure in Christian mythology.

There are atheist satanists. LaVey's satanism is explicitly atheist, for example.

Does that mean that this guy is intelligent?
well, I won't debate that , but some people still believe creationism to be science, not saying he shouldn't, he has the freedom for it, but I don't think it does any help in this case. On the contrary, that would seem to convince atheists more to support their position.

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No, the core of "true atheism" is lack of belief in any deities, with or without "scientific curiousity". Complete idiots can be atheists. If you insist that the religious accept their idiot brethren as associates, then you have to accept yours.

Ah, but, dogbrain that's just it - it is my views, my own personal brand of atheism.
Slow-wits and slack-jaws unwelcome; they muddy the waters more than mend. If they cannot think for themselves, they can follow religion, or another atheist person.
The value of mine is self actualusation; nobody else is allowed into my beliefs. If they reach similar conclusions; I am happy - but I won't tell others to believe specifically as I do.
Not out of some useless morality; I just don't want common minds cheapening my ideas.
Every man, woman and child for themselves - hell, I'm slow using the term atheist to describe myself, only do I use it out of convenience.

There are creationists who are below the 100 line, but this guy would be way above it.

Here's his Facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=645647729

You can write him a message or something.

Here's the official Facebook CMI group: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2891265643

Here's my profile too: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=532342702

According to one of the proctors that had given me one of my three administered IQ tests, I'm in the 94th percentile.

My point is that intelligence is not meaningful in this debate.

The idea of Atheism precludes the existence of ANY dieties. So...no, I am not a Satanist, even if Christians like to call me one.

Bunch of responses to slowmutant's stuff:

There is actually some truth to this; empirical truth cannot spawn moral truth. What is cannot spawn what ought to be. Of course, no person is logical. We don't adhere to a "true" morality. Even people who are literal interpretationists will cave when their psychological threshold is broken. "Morality" usually reduces to the amalgamation of self-interest (survival instinct) and empathy (protection of the species; also look up oxytocin). Of course, there is a way to make morality absent a large anthropic celestial male. Utilitarianism is one (my fav) example, as well as Kantian Duty, Platonic and Aristotle-based virtue. Also, are actions good because they please God or do the please God because they are good? (See Socrates)



Are you saying that information pales in the face axiomatic belief? So if I believe that the whole world is composed of coffee beans and have faith in that, does that make it true in the face of empirical evidence to the contrary? Also, see the Judaic interpretation of Satan. It greatly differs from the Christian concept of "The Devil". Satan is not the spiritual boogy-man.

Also, if you believe that God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent, but at the same time believe that not helping a starving child when you know that they need food and have food to give them is morally reprehensible, then you must acknowledge that God is (a) not able to help, (b) not informed about the situation, or (c) not willing to help, a.k.a. immoral. Unless you believe (like me) that God is a force of balance as opposed to a force of "moral good".

One of the assumptions of this argument is that atheists are automatically materialists and lack morals. This is plain wrong.

Religion or no religion morality is unique to each person.

I can't speak for all atheists, but I'm a relativist. So therefore I make choices on my moral standing all the time. I don't believe in an absolute morality. I believe in a sort of medium as cultural memes, but this is highly complex and never permanent.

You are a type of atheist, but you cannot define atheism in a universal sense. Atheism as a whole is what atheists as a whole are like--and that includes the morons who happen to be atheists.