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10 Oct 2008, 1:06 am

I'm not an anarcho-primitivist, but I'm frankly not interested in most high technology, despite being a CS/EE student.

Working with capital goods that make loud buzzing noises and require a lot of power sounds exciting though. :lol:


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10 Oct 2008, 11:21 am

Warsie wrote:
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The event of peak oil is unlikely to be drastic, even if it will come in the next several decades.


given how the US is based off cheap gasoline and cars, I say otherwise; the Us cities tend to be REAL spread out due to suburbs and the like.

Philadelphia, Chicago, New York City, Houston and Atlanta are one of the most spread out urban areas on the Earth with pops over 500,000 people.
http://www.demographia.com/db-worldua.pdf

Given how steep a decline in production could be and the cascading effect, especially combined with increased demand from China and India and how EVERYTHING runs off oil.... :?:


I think a lot more people will be telecommuting - at my wife's new job, they are doing it 2 or 3 days per week. Saves times and money, reduces traffic, pollution and oil dependency.



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12 Oct 2008, 6:17 pm

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Lol... in spite of?.. I've stopped believing in coincidences, especially big ones.. yeah it's possible that they were quite smart before they ever smoked cannabis, but the kind of people intelligent enough to smoke it should also be smart enough to decide whether it truly is a good thing or not..


...if they have read reliable medical research.

And this research suggests that weed impairs cognitive function. Maybe not permanently, but it does.



when you say NOT PERMANENTLY, maybe you mean temporarily.. like when you're 'high'?.. kind of like when you're drunk..? well duh!
don't know what 'studies' you favor, but I dont trust your studies, because you simply trust the wrong people.. I've heard so many positive studies, but aside from that, every natural thing I've ever come in contact with has always had fairly straightforward results... weed, is a herb.. In one study done in Africa with pregnant women showed in ALL cases that the ones who smoked cannabis, their babies had better cognitive functions, better emotional response to touch, etc.. simple baby tests.. Long term, cannabis does far better things.. they say TOO much can cause memory loss, but in moderation, which is recommended by anyone, it improves memory function..

it is a very sensitive herb mate.. you need to do it correctly.. but you have to be ret*d to think it's a threat to society.. of course, the GOVERNMENT hates it, because people who smoke weed rebel against tyranny, as they should.



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12 Oct 2008, 7:22 pm

Which medical journals published the studies you read?


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13 Oct 2008, 2:27 am

ShawnWilliam wrote:
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it is a very sensitive herb mate.. you need to do it correctly.. but you have to be ret*d to think it's a threat to society.. of course, the GOVERNMENT hates it, because people who smoke weed rebel against tyranny, as they should.


This is one instance where I'll have to disagree with you Shawn, it makes a lot of people more lazy and apathetic and vegetative, which is probably why they promote it so much in our culture. Not everyone who smokes it, but a lot of people who smoke it regularly though do become that way. Nothing happens by accident, the drug culture was given for a reason too....

And not everything that we get from nature is good; take heroin for example. But where they put flouride in the water, estrogen and all sorts of other chemicals in the food, only goes to figure they'll put stuff in drugs too, rather theyr legal or illegal drugs. It's always cut with something...... Pure weed in moderation isn't a horrible thing, that I'll agree with you on. As long as it's not cut with anything.



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13 Oct 2008, 8:06 am

ShawnWilliam wrote:

when you say NOT PERMANENTLY, maybe you mean temporarily.. like when you're 'high'?.. kind of like when you're drunk..? well duh! ...


In one study done in Africa with pregnant women showed in ALL cases that the ones who smoked cannabis, their babies had better cognitive functions, better emotional response to touch, etc.. simple baby tests.. Long term, cannabis does far better things.. they say TOO much can cause memory loss, but in moderation, which is recommended by anyone, it improves memory function..



Got any links to that study, or was it a dream? I won't argue that the effect of weed on the average adult has been overstated to a point of hysteria. But the notion that giving a drug to pregnant women or infants is generally a good idea is pretty difficult to accept without a large amount of proof. Infants are far more susceptible to chemicals, and it can lead to permanent developmental changes - why do you think that pressing their anandamide receptors is a good thing?? We know that alcohol, tobacco, opium, barbituates, cocaine, amphetamine and pretty much every other substance that can be abused is negative or very negative for developing fetuses and infants. I suggest it is irresponsible to claim that weed is somehow OK or beneficial for pregnant women.



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29 Nov 2008, 11:09 am

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What are 'chemtrails' anyway? What are they made of? Has anyone bothered to try to, like, sample them or something?


Yes, they have.

There are some details in this vid. Its a source for the clip that was posted in the OP.

Aerosol Crimes 1st edition
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 6407&hl=en



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29 Nov 2008, 11:31 am

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You're right about when to brush though - I always just brush before I eat and right when I get up. Most toothpaste is also full of SLS and artificial sweeteners and additives and chemicals... nasty stuff, specially given that the mouth absorbs about 10x more than other parts of the body. I use baking soda once a week for a deep clean, but in the in-between use a natural toothpaste. This one, in fact. http://www.walavita.de/english/dental-c ... oothpaste/ It's lovely and fresh, with natural cleansers and soothers and strengtheners. Can't do flossing though, hehe, hate it... one of my aspie aversions, we'll say.


I went through all the fluoride, SLS & sodium hydroxide-free toothpastes & they ALL contain glycerin.

Glycerin in the high levels found in toothpaste leaves a persitant sticky coating which prevents the re-enamalization process. So your bodies natural ability to repair itself is taken away, and you become a slave to the dental industry with their invasive drill & fill procedures (should you develop a cavity)

Using special tooth soap is an alternative to the conventional pastes that contains no glycerin. Im starting next week, hopefully ill never have to see another dentist again! :)



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29 Nov 2008, 11:34 am

^ Try a mixture of equal parts salt and baking soda on your toothbrush. It tastes awful, but it works as well as or better than any commercial product, and it's less expensive than "special" mixtures as well.


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