Medical Marijuana for the Disabled and Dieing

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Medical Marijuana for the disabled and dieing
I agree with the use of M.J when its usage helps a patient and is authorized by a trained professional medical doctor. 47%  47%  [ 15 ]
I agree with the use of M.J when its usage helps a patient and is authorized by a trained professional medical doctor. 47%  47%  [ 15 ]
I don’t’ agree with medical marijuana for the sick and dieing because I’m a cold hearted person who has no soul. Or I believe it’s of the devil and the voices object to its usage, I truly belief I have a right to take away the fundamental human rights of 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
I don’t’ agree with medical marijuana for the sick and dieing because I’m a cold hearted person who has no soul. Or I believe it’s of the devil and the voices object to its usage, I truly belief I have a right to take away the fundamental human rights of 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
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10 Apr 2006, 8:25 pm

Theres nothing more to say is there really? I have pretty much nailed you down to what you are.

For the record the person ive quoted you was a French Anarchist, its a good book to read but he's more famous for the one he did about a housemaid that was made into a film which was moderatly successful. I can tell you haven't advanced far in the level of book reading so maybe some investment in the paper with writing on is worth your while



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10 Apr 2006, 8:28 pm

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There is no safer medication than marijuana. It should be available right next to the tylenol and aspirin, it is that safe, except that tylenol and aspirin kill many people every year. There is no known death in the history of the world from marijuana. Not even the DEA with all their lies have come up with one person who has been killed by using marijuana, unlike the deaths caused by tylenol and aspirin.


And what of those who become schitzophrenic? Particularly the afro-carribean population who are heavy users? Its not as black and white a situation with it but it is certainly a more natural drug (well directly from the plant, through a dealer you get god knows what with it) then say tobacco which is heavily processed and chemical laden

I also am aware from personal experiance of teenagers being particularly vulnerable to it triggering off some kind of schitzophrenia



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10 Apr 2006, 8:43 pm

People with schizophrenia are vulnerable to all sorts of things. People with allergies face death all the time from many household products and foods. Should we make peanuts illegal? Life has many risks. That doesn't mean we should create stupid laws that create greater harm than they claim to protect people from.



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10 Apr 2006, 8:45 pm

Should we eradicate all bees and wasps from the planet just because some people are allergic? And make cultivation illegal? It's the same argument.



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10 Apr 2006, 8:48 pm

What determines a persons susceptiability to a trigger to cause a mental illness. What is that has caused it? A genetic predisposition? Or a chemical reaction or an allergy? Thats what im asking

It also is very proficcient among certain groups, namely young male afro-carribeans. What are the reasons behind it

A drug is never harmless



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10 Apr 2006, 8:58 pm

Does cultural conditioning as psychological developmental factors have to do with certain irrational beliefs?

For instance the belief in the supernatural, many white folks believe in that, so do others. Leave it to the Nazi boy avatar cyber-token dingy to focus on the stereotypes of race and psychopathology.

He paints his own perfect picture, the one of the instigative bigot.



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11 Apr 2006, 12:37 am

anandamide wrote:
There is no safer medication than marijuana. It should be available right next to the tylenol and aspirin, it is that safe, except that tylenol and aspirin kill many people every year. There is no known death in the history of the world from marijuana. Not even the DEA with all their lies have come up with one person who has been killed by using marijuana, unlike the deaths caused by tylenol and aspirin.


Bullsit

No drug is entirely safe. Sure MJ can be used to help with certain medical conditions such as glaucauma or relief from Nausea due to chemotherapy.

But lets think about it's long term effects. It affects the nuerons in your brain that control memory, this can lead to the inability to learn new things. It can also lead to "amotivational syndrome" as well.

With all that in mind I think it's safe to say that we should look at weed the same way we look at alcohol. Have fun, but smoke responsbily. 8)



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11 Apr 2006, 4:58 am

sc wrote:
Does cultural conditioning as psychological developmental factors have to do with certain irrational beliefs?

For instance the belief in the supernatural, many white folks believe in that, so do others. Leave it to the Nazi boy avatar cyber-token dingy to focus on the stereotypes of race and psychopathology.

He paints his own perfect picture, the one of the instigative bigot.


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How ironic, you have demonstrated this perfectly. You want to try and dismiss me away as some nazi boy and not deal with what i am actually saying. This makes you the totalitarian not me, were you actually responding to what i say rather then lower yourself to petty insults (if you can call them that) I might actually have respect for you but now I just laugh at your posts because they smell of fear and a gross inability to deal with someone who presents a challenge to your perception of the world around you.

I see theres going to be more opportunities for giggles and gaffours with you again in the future I hope to see you again my little pet



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11 Apr 2006, 6:28 am

Laz = drunken idiot.



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11 Apr 2006, 6:56 am

ok break it up.

we have heard enough insults for a life time.
mcj (as admin)!


ooops, wrong board.
my bad, carry on.


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11 Apr 2006, 7:56 am

sc wrote:
That's complicated...

I think it's important for patients, total legalizition is another issue.

I'm against total legalization..


Okay now lets let the other stuff go and get back to it.
Lots of things are complicated but I'll give you that it's two separate issues and stick with one.
I belive it wrong not to let people who could bennefit for it have it. Its also pitifull that these things can't even be seriously reseached by scientists in the US. Come on I met a guy with a morphine patch to control his pain and they worry about what will happen if someone on chemo smokes some pot to relive nausia.


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11 Apr 2006, 10:38 am

jman wrote:

No drug is entirely safe. Sure MJ can be used to help with certain medical conditions such as glaucauma or relief from Nausea due to chemotherapy.


Forget chemo nausea, cannabis can actually help HEAL cancer. But you'll have to look outside the states for the relevant research, because the US outright banned cancer-cannabis research way back in the 70s. (legend states they were the first to discover its anti-tumour properties, ironically whilst attempting to 'prove' it was carcinogenic)

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But lets think about it's long term effects. It affects the nuerons in your brain that control memory, this can lead to the inability to learn new things. It can also lead to "amotivational syndrome" as well.


Im sceptical about this. Claims of 'amotivational syndrome' are 'chicken and egg' theories until there is some credible unbiased research. AFAIK every psychoactive drug affects your neural circuits, thats how they work. Im not aware of any current research that shows an irreversible effect on memory.

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With all that in mind I think it's safe to say that we should look at weed the same way we look at alcohol. Have fun, but smoke responsbily. 8)


Fair enough :)



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11 Apr 2006, 11:36 am

There must be thousands of people who have their doctor's tacit approval to use marijuana to alleviate symptoms, but the doctors are often afraid to actually write prescriptions because of the illegal status of any patient not given permission by government to use this medicinal herb. Instead, doctors just give tacit approval, verbal rather than written. I have discussed marijuana usage with several doctors and not one has ever ever said to me that it is wrong to use marijuana.

One of the things that it is important to at least acknowledge in this debate is the argument that the US government funds studies that will find harm associated with smoking marijuana. The US government does this for several reasons, one of which is that the US government has a huge industry that imprisons people for the use of marijuana as part of the so-called drug war. These prisons, often privatized prisons, are often the backbone of local economies not to mention bringing huge revenue to the corporations that profit from them. The US government uses the alleged evil of marijuana to sieze assets, violate human rights, and imprison people. This industry emerged as a result of the ban on marijuana that was instituted by the US government because marijuana (cannabis) is a plant that can provide the most effective biomass fuel and source of textiles known to humankind. Cannabis was originally banned in the 1930s because the US timber and petroleum industry was threatened by its incredible potential for fuel and textiles.



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11 Apr 2006, 12:04 pm

exactly, the illegality of cannabis serves the interests of governments and corporations. it would be foolish and naive to believe that its illegal status is grounded in governments concern for the public good or the health of individuals. the whole phenomenon of the modern drug problem can largely be traced back to the US governments smear campaign against cannabis, for the most part at the behest of corporate interests and corrupt racists.



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11 Apr 2006, 12:47 pm

Right Peebo, but do you find it difficult to talk about mj on forums? I certainly do. I am not used to be labelled as some sort of degenerate or addict, unfortunately this is what tends to happen whenever I state my views about mj on forums. I am very uncomfortable with being perceived as some sort of druggie. There are so many people out there who have no clue about this issue and will personally attack anyone whose views do not match their own limited knowledge or capacity for debate. I feel compelled though to speak about the mj issue because I have seen how very beneficial the herb can be. I have also seen the great harm that comes from the ban.