timeisdead wrote:
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Absurd.
These illegal immigrants you speak of, find work and spend money. The businesses they support can afford to keep them here, and it is in the economy's best interest not to deport them. There is also the parallel phenomenon of the upper middle class and wealthy decisively not spending money in this economic downturn. Bear in mind that you are placing the weight of the majority of an entire nation's unemployment on a minority group whose jobs, if lost to Americans could not downsize the country's unemployment rate by more than a hair. The problem right now is not that those who can barely afford to are, it's that those who can afford more, aren't spending. In other words, potential employers have gone underground rather than make investments that provide jobs and break even for themselves despite potential long term growth and innovations.
How is it in the economy's best interest? Those who lose jobs to illegal aliens often go on SSI, welfare, or unemployment. This, in turn, costs us more of our tax dollars. Those who are unemployed are also statistically more likely to commit crimes. With the rising crime rate, more and more would be imprisoned. Now where does this come from? Our tax dollars. With rising taxes, spending also decreases. Obviously, those who are unemployed won't be big spenders either. With the rising taxes and decreased revenue, many companies will be left with little choice but to fire or lay off workers in the U.S. As spending decreases, many stores/shops/ect go out of business and leave more unemployed. The vicious cycle then continues in a chain reaction...... "Cheap" labor isn't so cheap.
What's ironic about your view is that privatised prisons are profiting from your tax dollars as they have to enforce the laws that you agree should be upheld. You are essentially agreeing to pay for a capitalist prison system. How do you suppose a laissez faire would keep a prison system in business? Someone has to pay for it. Hey, why not use prison labour instead of creating jobs in America that pay people a
living wage?
sarcasm
I think you are still trying to blame illegal immigrants for the downfall of corporate America due to its internal mistakes in budget and production management. Illegal immigrants typically work migrant farm labour jobs or menial service jobs, but if they have trade skills, can find employment in development, and if they have connections in a larger city, they can seemingly progress in ethnocentric areas and neighbourhoods. These people have absolutely nothing to do with companies downsizing to compensate for the economy. Very few of the workers who are suffering from corporate lay offs are equipped to handle the kind of work that
typical illegal immigrants perform. The labour drought is a result of outsourcing jobs to other countries, and not that illegal immigrants are competing for mid level positions in this country. Again, with the lack of investors creating new start up companies that are sustainable in America, corporations continue to outsource labour.
Quite frankly, the jobs that are outsourced, are not really anyone's version of the American Dream, either. Sure, when times are tough, Americans miss those jobs, but the reality of who ultimately would sustain them during thriving economic periods is the minority work force; lower income people keeping production costs low. To inflate the job market with production level employment would mean that the middle class would have to take a step down, get political, and demand living wages, thereby increasing the cost/lowering the profits of everything. The concept is described as
fair trade.
The bulk of the currently unemployed due to the economic situation are at mid level jobs. Taking lower level jobs to survive would undermine not just illegal immigrants, but all of the
American lower middle class and below, pushing people already on the brink of welfare into seeking government assistance. Tax dollars are going to be spent on social assistance regardless of the class level of the unemployed people with the exception of illegal immigrants, who honestly, have some of the most sustainable positions in the economy due to the marginalised nature of the work they perform. Any tax payer could argue for their own sake, the value of the welfare system when faced with a choice of working without benefits, full time, for slave wages, to being temporarily out of work with tax dollars working to sustain them.
07 Apr 2009, 12:23 pm
