AS and racism

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I'm always afraid I sound racist. I can't remember names or faces real well and saying that to an African American I'm always afraid might sound horrible but African Americans seem to understand I don't mean that in a racist "you all look alike to me" type way which is kind of ironic as an aspie

I have extreme sensitive smell. I have even smelled cigarette smoke from a car in front of me if they had their window down even though mine was up---although my air conditioner or heater was on---therefore it may have filtered in through the vent system. Also, if I am in the presence of a smoker for just a brief moment, I can smell the smoke odor on my skin until I take a shower.

If different nationalities/races have their own distinct odors, then I could be a menagerie. Let's see, there is English, Irish, Dutch, Mohawk Indian, and I am 1/256 black. My great great grandmother was 1/16 black and was descended from a slave woman on the Jefferson Plantation in Virginia. My male ancestor there would either be Thomas Jefferson's father, or his Uncle Field Jefferson. Perhaps my AS came from the Jefferson lineage.

Something else on my smell sensitivity. I remember a peculiar odor around my great uncle when I was just a teenager. He had terminal cancer. We used to go to his house a lot to visit before he was admitted to the hospital to die. It was a musty sweet aroma very different from anything else I had ever smelled. He died soon after. Several years later, my mother bought a homemade quilt from a woman who had cancer. Mom brought the quilt home and I said it smelled like the smell I remembered around my uncle. Mom washed it, but the smell was still there---although not as strong. The woman soon died. I almost always smell this odor in nursing homes. I wonder if I am smelling death? Or is it something to do with terminal cancer patients? Anyone else smell death?

No kidding. Zoonic, your comments are disgusting, and you give a bad name to people with Asperger Syndrome if you express these horrible things in public. I'm not going to visit this thread either, the stench of your white privilege is too overwhelming.

you know what you need is my own spray' bump those politically correct fags that try to tell you anything. auhhhhh this aint your world

flip them off and airpunch them for real

ACTUALLY, it is FACT that a lot of people in east europe, asia, and africa generally smell different from others. It is USUALLY due to cultural diet and/or traditions. Of course, it is ALSO proven fact that protein makeup creates a distinctive smell and EVERYONE has different proteins. THAT is why dogs can sniff out a suspect.

I WILL say, though, that a black will, all things equal, smell more like a black than a white, etc.... That is NOT because of their race, but because the people in that race inherited similar traits, so the proteins are more alike. I don't know if you could even train a dog to react solely to a particular race but, in theory, it could be possible. I doubt a person could distinguish it though. HEY, blacks STILL sometimes call one another bro, etc... They must have, at one point, started out with a MUCH smaller group just like whites, asians, etc... AGAIN though, everyone is different. Unless you are monozygotic twins, the DNA is different and that means the proteins are different.

So HOW is that racist? HEY, a white might smell worse than a black. That is FACT, and I am WHITE! Am I to be called racist because I said ANOTHER race could be better in some way than my own? Does it make a difference that I said it is NOT generally RACE that makes the difference?

I was once called racist because I said that I didn't think that history allowed for a TUVOK. And if that were racist, what would a hate crime be? Am I to write to the writers and demand that all vulcans be white? HEY, they ALL have the same queen, same salute, same planet, same traditions, same "emotions" etc.... Why not the same skin color as well? Hey, on the original star trek they had a half white/half black race. I would be just as upset if THEY were white and green! That HUMANS have varied in such distinctive ways does NOT mean that any other must. HEY, all klingons now look kind of like worf even though they once looked more like a caucasian human. OOPS! Would it HELP if I said that SUPPOSEDLY they USED to look like worf, but a DISEASE made them look human? OOPS! I guess I just can't win, huh? HEY, it is the TRUTH! And YEP,. they worked to be non human, black, atavistic type people.

HEY, I would take a decent black over a bad white ANY DAY! RACISTS listen to the first part of MLKs speach(that implies that blacks shouldn't be discriminated against). That is STUPID! I listen to the SECOND part! It says ANYONE should be discriminated against BASED ON THEIR CHARACTER! In other words, it is OK to hate someone that murders everyone, steals, etc... EVEM if they are black! It is also OK to have a nice altruistic, caring friend, even if they happen to be another race.

That is ANOTHER thing I hate! Some blacks DO look similar! The same is true of asians, indians(all types), AND (GULP) WHITES!! !! !! !

Hey, movies sometimes show that were someone says "Anyone ever tell you you look like..." or "You look like someone else I know.". If the person saying that is not white, or both are white, there is no big deal. If the person saying it is white, and the other isn't, WATCH OUT!

Did you ever see the sienfeld episode where george says a coworker looks like sugar ray leonard? He tries ALL sorts of deceit to prove he isn't racist. In the end, ANOTHER black said he looked like sugar ray leonard! That is TYPICAL!! !! !

What of the dexter episode where he tells an officer that he looks like a suspect. The officer says dexter is acting racist, UNTIL the officer looks at the picture and then saays "He DOES look like me"! AGAIN, TYPICAL!

I mean I SWEAR there are some features on some whites that REALLY stick out! I have a tendency to group them together. And I am WHITE! Blacks ALSO may have such features. Hey, humans tend to look at thee most prominent features and, over time, details may fade. That means they may start to seem more similar. It is the way PEOPLE think, NOT a particular race! It has NOTHING to do with racism.

It's the iranians who think they are racially superior, while at the same time hating themselves. 25% of the population of Theran had cosmetic surgery in order to appear more white. That's the highest rate of ethnic-based cosmetic surgery in the world. You can't count for example brazilian bum lifts as "ethnic" but making a curved and droopy nose look european and dyeing your hair carrot brown/orange in a desperate attempt to look "aryan" is pathetic self hating indeed.

Iranians regularly use the term "aryan" to signal superiority. They are arrogant and they will kick downwards on AS people and autistics at the first chance because their culture tells them to "take what they can get at all cost" in order to achieve status and make themselves feel better. Trashtalking is a part of iranian culture.

My brain intuitively associates a persian/azeri face (typical iranian) with evil when I see one. I can't help it, I got programmed that way based on personal experience. I associate the race with the culture and the culture is in my experience evil and built on greed and vanity to an extent which only exists in the western world within specific groups and not society in general.

I'm never going to forgive the iranian people for using my AS to make themselves feel better, because they themselves were outsiders in society. The "good ones" out there I'm willing to count as collateral damage as long as I don't have to see their faces.

well, it is a bit stupid and racist to believe that everyone from a certain country stinks just because you've met a few who do.

so, i'd say you had it coming for you.

My sense of smell isn't actually that good. I tend to taste strong odours, it's very discomforting in certain places

Ah, the joys of multiculturalism...

I don't see the racism. If someone said to me "did you ever notice white people smell like ham" I wouldn't be offended, it's simply an observation that they came up with. There was no malicious intent. If someone said "all white people seem to have blue eyes" they might be wrong but what's offensive about that? again, an observation, if poorly formed.

Racism as a term should be scraped imo, and just deemed discrimination, it gets rid of "you can't call me black!" bullcrap



Ha a lot of it's misguided but the stereotypes are funny imo.



Oh so it's actually our subconscious racial prejudges (which we all have imo) that might be causing this? cool

before I can continue, I'm not racist. I treat everyone without bias or prejudice, regardless of what race or sexuality they are. I've been friends with chinese people, and gay people. I was brought up in a massively asian district in birmingham, there was no other white person in my class. I didn't care, I didn't see myself as much different from the other people. Now I'll continue, I hate the "we don't talk about racism" mantra in every crevvase of society. If I offend you because I disagree with your beliefs, get used to it. Free speech and the right to respectfully challenge your beliefs is my born right. And yours too

First, we must remember that Race=Culture. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with Iranians. I've never MET an iranian. So I can be perfectly unbiased in my opinions. Iranians are naturally instilled with Iranian beliefs. You can't overgeneralise, but maybe Iranians are, in general, filled with "narcistic pride". I can't say, I don't know. But I'm saying it's posible, although i'm sure the Anti-Racism brigade have their ears covered and are shouting "lalala I can't hear you by now"

Americans, to me, seem to value outspokenness and ambition heavily. They seem patriotic, and often very religious. This is a personal observation, I can't prove it but it seems to be their cultural tendency. Not everyone falls into that generalisation, but a lot do. I'd just like people to accept that other races ARE different to your race, you probably AREN'T the same morally. Different countries, different ethics. It's not unfair, as zoonic has, to have met hundreds of a race, and notice a tendency towards a negative quality. That is an called an insight, not racism. Treating members of that race differently by default because of that insight IS racism, it is totally unacceptable. I noticed that the chinese people I know have strong work ethics, and tend to be introverted, but I'm going to randomly call every chinese guy I meet a "loner" Racism isn't a belief, it's an act. Just my 2c. /Rant off



That's called verbal abuse, that is racism. Keep such beliefs to yourself please. It might be true, it might not be, but it's a grossly offensive generalisation.



No, I can't but damn that's a cool gift



Hell yeah they could! It's just the PC Brigade telling us we aren't allowed recognise racial differences.

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Not to mention that alot of stereotypes hold some truth to an extent, albeit an exaggerated version of the truth.

True, stereotypes have to come from something right? I'm Irish too and I can can safely say a drink is an integral part of our society (read: we get feckin locked!! ). To be fair a lot of people don't drink, but the majority do, often heavily

People with AS are prone to become anxious around people, and can be particularly anxious around those of different cultures, depending on the individual. However, that does not at all mean I think one who is like that is racist. I myself am often insecure around others of different cultures, mainly due to me panicking about what they think of me, hoping I don't offend, and me not being adjusted to that kind of social setting. I'm not always insecure like that, but sometimes I am.

I am not at all racist. Are there any others here who understand what I'm talking about?

What about our infamous self-deprecating sense of humour?



I'm not any more or less comfortable at all around other races or ethnic groups than my own, but I totally see why people (especially anxious AS folk) would be, especially if the social protocol is very different to what they're used too.

Damn I forgot about that, aren't I some eejit



Tbh I wouldn't mind hanging around with someone who could speak no english at all, that would be sweet Maybe I'll post "Mochten Sie meinen freunde Bekommen?" in the foreign section